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I'm tired of being a private moderator, by PMs, about how Jay owes everyone money, and is spending all he gets on new car parts, instead of paying debts...

So, here's your chance -- let's see the info Chris.

Jay got his 2G painted the other day....
Im sure some of you have seen the pictures of the 60-1 on it and a header. If not I can send them. Eclipse body parts, and dash. Just lots of goodies.
Not to mention he bought a 92 TSI awd for a winter car. Endless cash!!!
I dont understand what im really supposed to write in here. The point is he's spending money on his car before paying the people he owes money to. Fair? nope......

yes chris i owe you money... and megs.. i have worked out a payment plan with her, and i am doing so with you,,, i wont rip you or meghan off.. dont worry.

Ok, so the bottom line here, is that Jay admits he's freely spending money on new things, when he also wholly admits that he owes people money.
(some of which, have not been named here)

Yes?
Is this the bottom line?

Sounds pretty much dead on to me!!!!!

Incredible.
Well.
We won't be a party to bad debts... removed until we receive emails indicating that debts are paid.

Thanks everyone for your support. Thanks Andrew for doing whats right!!!!!!! Great guy on this board!!

And now some guy named Jeff is out $850 on a turbo as well?

And now I hear some Laser he sold someone, still has a lean on it?

Chris, can you back this up?

don't know where else to post this but....


yes the laser is my brothers, he said hes waiting back from the bank, so I am hoping its not too long before the laser has the lein removed because my bro is stressing out about it.

I'll post the deal to make things less confusing...


My bro had a Chevy 350ss MINT shape, it was traded for the Laser.
When we met Jay was supposed to bring extra rims with GOOD winter tires, intercooler core, and Saftey.

He arrived with just the car, my bro wanting the Laser took it and Jay said he'd bring down the other parts and saftey later on, then weeks later he came down with nothing, then again with the rims that IMO were done.. all 4 rims were so bent we couldn't even use them and 2 of the 4 tires where okay 1 was worn but usable and the 4th was done belt slipped in it. We still havn't gotten the Intercooler core and the lien is still on the car. My bro is fustrated because the 350ss was mint and worth well over $6000 on the last appraisal. But now he is stuck with a laser in rough shape... things are acting funny with it and there is a bloody lein. My bro is getting fed up and he just wants something to compensate, maybe a set of tires like he said and intercooler like he promised. We also never recieved a saftey and had to saftey it ourselves which needed a balljoint and some body work under neath from holes going into the drivers compartment. I am not trying to screw Jay out of some money or what not but this just isn't fair to my bro and I can't stand by any longer knowing that my bro is out a lot of money he took a huge enough hit from trading but now he doesn't get what was in the deal and he's out even more then before!

...a picture is worth, a thousand words.

I dont have to back it up !! Someone else did for me!! Im still waiting for my damn cheque!!!!! But i'll take a number and get in line!

Pictures are a thousand words and here are more.

Bad spring needed to be replaced for saftey that was supposed to come saftied, had to be entire new lowering springs ($$$$)
bent rim #1
Bent rim #2
Bent Rim #3
Those good treaded tires that we were supposed to get on them rims.
Rust holes that are kinda hard to see in dark. No mention of them at all.
Other side of car in rear wheel well rust there as well.
Again some more rust holes we patched this already for a temp fix, but you can see it's coming through the rocker gaurd.

and of course there is the lein on the car, and we had to pay for our own saftey which was around $400 that was supposed to be included with the trade, along with weeks of the car having to sit just to find a set of springs and parts needed. Rims and tires we recieved where junk they were supposed to be in good shape 2G rims with good winter tires, instead we got ****ty 1g rims with bad tires. Funny how his new beater has good 2g rims and winter tires all of a sudden.

Also IMO Jay still owes my brother

2G Rims with GOOD winter Tires.
FMIC Core (good one).
Money for saftey.
Money for new lowering spring set.
and possibly something to help with rust problems on the car to be repaired since he never mentioned them said car had no rust. Just a little pealing paint on the hood.

Plus when we opened the hood there was missing bolts and nuts all over the place shock towers manifold etc.

This is what Jay wrote to Brad uppon inquiring in the where abouts of Jeffs turbo and money...

You can tell its him due to all the proper english!

hey.. the deal with the turbo is what i told jeff... i sent money to a guy by the name of mike penney in cherry hill NJ. like months ago... hes giving me the run around... I am trying talk to the guy nice so he doesent get pissed and run with jeffs money.. i have many like 15 emails saying he recieved the money and that he was going to ship it... apparently he went on holidays. so im trying to get ahold of him. i emailed him tonight. but i can forward all the emails i have to you.. and i can give you his email..... it is mp31x@aol.com but i dont want to be rude... he has never said hes not shipping its just hard to getahold of this guy.. and i feel bad for jeff... hees having such bad luck with this turbo for his car. Is there anything i can do? to that i havnt done.. i dont want this guy runnin off wit the money... but thats where its at.. but lmk.. thanks.. jay


Gettin the run around eh Jay? Sucks getting screwed over doesnt it?? I hope your telling the truth this time!!!!!!

Garrett has worked out a deal with Jay at this point, that he says he's happy with.

I will post a followup, when I hear from Garrett has received everything he was promised, and the deal is done, and he's happy.

This is Dusty, Garretts brother. I am looking to sell the laser to my buddy and he won't take it until the lein is off the car, Jay still hasn't taken the lein off, is there anyway else I can get this lein off my car so I can atleast sell it and get some of what my truck was worth out of it. I really need help. Will small claims court work or is that a waste of time? Please need help asap.

Jay just sold his 1992 TSI. So he should have the money to pay the bank. Now, I heard tonight that he was going to the states to buy another 2G. So take it as you will, he isnt doing anything for you.

Also, the turbo he got for my friend Jeff. Well, its F'd. Jeff paid $850 for what was supposed to be a mint shape modified 20G. He got a 16G with a 6cm housing. Jeff doesnt know much about these turbos or cars. So when Brad took it apart we were surprised to find a 16g wheel. Poor Jeff.

Unfortunately Jay claims its a 20G. Says its fine, just so happens the bearings and seals are $hit aswell. Ive had about enough of this punk. Some day he will get whats coming to him.

So beware. Jay may have almost payed everyone off, but hes still a crook. And up to his old tricks again. He is on other boards buying and selling still. So watch out.

The lein is held by some credit-granting institution (in this case Trans Canada Credit). You'll have to approach them to remove the lein. They have no reason whatsoever to remove it until whatever monies they are owed (or, at least, claim they are owed) are paid. They don't care who pays them, or where the money comes from. They just want their money. Until then, they have every legal right to continue to hold the lein. If, after all the outstanding monies have been paid, they STILL refuse to remove the lein, THEN legal action can be taken against them (though I'm not sure of the exact type of legal action that applies).

If I am not mistaken, selling a car while there is a lien against it is a form of FRAUD. I would talk to the police. He can't buy and sell a lot of parts from a jail cell....

A known source has told me that Peterson is flying to Jacksonville to buy a 2g and drive it back up. When I dont know but I just wanted to let you guys know whats going on.

I really really really wish I would have found this forum and post before I dealt with him recently.

I just traded my white 92 tsi for his 90 tsi. Mine, the engine wasnt running well and the boost was non existant, so I traded for a running car which apparently received a lot of parts. I had a mechanic take a look and he didn't seem convinced.

The guy also promised me the rest of the parts needed for the car...its been a month an no results, yet he was extremely quick with doing the trade and came out at a moments notice when I told him I had the ownership ready.

I'm still in the process of dealing with him. At least I know where his work is so I can head over there and have a chat with his boss if this goes on any longer. I know its a silly thing to do, but if I can get something from the source of his funding...maybe it will help?

As well, he promised the rest of the interior parts, promised hed put the computer back in the dash where it should be not hanging out into the passenger foot space. The glove box falls out as soon as you pull the handle. Missing bolts under the hood as well in various locations. The ownership isnt even in his name, its in some ladys name from toronto, then some other guys name is signed on the back and theres already been a 10 day plate given on it.

Also promised the proper cluster for it with the proper kms. Apparently he had a couple on his bench and used the wrong one as not everything works on it?

To top things off, the car was stored/worked on at his work so it smells like human sh!t...

Smashed one of the clear lenses on the front while trailering it over here and said hed replace that too. Also said something about a spare set of rubber (cant remember on rims or not) for winter.

Sounds like I got one of the old lies from this guy.

For those of you on Vital Motion that read this, do not buy his "eclipse". And thank you "Modified" whoever you may be!

Man that sucks dude. The guy is obiously a crook and he's got it coming to him someday. sh!t like this will catch up to him eventually Rob.

I hope no one buys his Talon that he calls "Eclipse" and he loses his shirt on it if he's gotta get rid of it. Serves him right.

Hopefully everything works out for you in the end.

Well Rob join the screwed by jay club. I went to look at that Red car when I went to knock his face in.. jokes..LOL But that car was hurting and it never started and would never start without half the parts that were missing hell there was only 4 screws holding the valve cover on.

Anyway I know his 2G Talon has over 280km on it. He had 255km about 2 years ago when I talked to him then. But I hope you can get that red car working, that or I would go talk to him.

HAHAHAHHAHA!!!!

Man the guy doesn't know when to stop... someones going to punch his lights out one day.

http://www.vitalmotion.net/forums/showthread.php?t=31846

Wow, talk about a profit. He bought the car for $6500. I should start selling dsms to make a huge profit as well.

What kills me the most is the custom made short shifter that the previous owner added to the car and now he claims he did it himself.

Unfuckinbelivable.

Wow it never ends with this guy!!!! Hahaha im laughing so much. I saw it forsale on VM and then some upstanding citizen stood up for whats rigt.

Poor Jay just cant get enough of ripping people off! Yay for Jay!! Woot woot woot!!!

Rob, if you dont know where he lives and want to go visit him then let me know. I'll gladly escort you over there so you can get your parts and make your point!

Old habits never go away. Hes an example.

That's just sad.
Why don't you guys put his picture in here(if you have) so at least every one knows him?

Mehrdad

He looks like Mike Shanahan, the coach from the Denver Broncos. Identical twins.

Id put up a picture but id end up photoshopping the crap out of it for comdey value lol.

He does look like Shanahan. Crazy....
Ive compared him to a rat, squirl and a donkey before.

Thanks Sergio

I suppose?

Mehrdad

50 lbs less and that's about right.

was wondering if there were any resolutions to the issues with mr.peterson ? iam currently the new owner of the white 92 tsi he sold...im unpleased and have had nothing but problems its been sitting since last nov-dec on my driveway....

came and see me will fix all of those problems....

I think technically the owner is supposed to supply the used vehicle package that can be bought at MOT which states if there is a lien or not.. regardless of the books.. Not telling the buyer is just unethical and dirty.

Oh my dear lord. Is this guy still conning people? I thought he was long gone.

In any case, forget about trying to solve the issues you have with your car with him because it will get you nowhere. Like Helder mentioned, take the car to him and he'll fix it all up

well oddly enough ive bumped into him on another car forum after he vanished from my msn and changed his number...hes also moved from his original location and according to him has a shop of his own....i have his current number and he doest know who iam ....im just unsure what to do with the situation as of right now ...i also lost out on some parts he sold me i waited months to get them and they were not what i was supposed to get pure garbage...any ideas as to what course of action i should take considering ive got this information ?

Let the people on the other forum know about him so he doesn't con poor innocent people there!!

I think Ziggy has the right answer, although I'm pretty sure everycar forum must know about this guys bad rep since he's ripped off so many people.

Worth a shot non the less

Elias,
I'd gather up all your paperwork proof, get your Dad, and maybe a friend or two, and go visit him.

Don't leave, without parts or cash, in hand.