Zeitronix Wideband Group Buy ...
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December 06, 2004 03:31 am UTC
December 06, 2004 03:31 am UTC
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Wes Swanson
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Well I have been corresponding with Zeitronix and been able to get some numbers on a potential Group Buy .... It involves their Zt-2 Wideband unit, for details and info please see the following site: http://www.zeitronix.com/Products/zt2/zt2.htm Tentative Details (cdn funds): Note: Zeitronix is willing to include a complimentary startup message on the LCD Display startup (should you order one) such as " Club DSM Canada ... go fast or go home" etc ... 10 units: Zt-2 Bundle $250 ($300 cdn) Zt-2 Bundle with the LCD display $360 ($430 cdn) Accesories: EGT Sensor $59 ($70 cdn) Boost Sensor $130 ($170 cdn) Let me know if you are interested
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Re: Zeitronix Wideband Group Buy ...
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December 06, 2004 04:06 am UTC
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Jonathan Largon
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i might be interested, is that $300 a *guarenteed* price or simply a conversion estimate? Thanks.
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Re: Zeitronix Wideband Group Buy ...
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December 06, 2004 04:21 am UTC
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Wes Swanson
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Its an estimated price based on today's Exchange Rate (0.84 US = 1 CDN) .... now is definately a good time to order with our dollar doing so well.
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Re: Zeitronix Wideband Group Buy ...
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December 07, 2004 05:31 pm UTC
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Wes Swanson
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I would recomend you drill a hole in your downpipe and add a bung for two reasons. It's a more accurate place to get a reading on your A/F ratio, and secondly, it will allow you to continue satisfying your ecu via the narrowband input while you can use the wideband for tuning ... and its also cheap (as Eric said $7)
OK ... here is our List so Far ....
1. Wes (Zt-2 + LCD) 2. Eric (Zt-2) 3. Patrick (Zt-2 + LCD + EGT) 4. Tim ? (unknown) 5. Ernest (Zt-2) 6. Scharock (Zt-2 + LCD + EGT)
Let's get a couple more guys involved here ... only need a few more to get the ball rolling ... wouldnt it be a nice christmas present to yourself?? or perhaps santa could leave it under the tree .... whatever the case may be, a wideband is an invaluable tool ...
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Re: Zeitronix Wideband Group Buy ...
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December 08, 2004 03:00 am UTC
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Wes Swanson
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As far as I know, as long as you have a bosch wideband sensor, you can you can use it. However, I would suggest purchasing the package because the rate we are getting is based on the afforementioned packages. I'm sure if you do order the package and do not need the extra sensor, with the amount of ppl running these things now days you will have no problem selling it.
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Re: Zeitronix Wideband Group Buy ...
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December 08, 2004 04:50 am UTC
December 08, 2004 04:50 am UTC
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Scharok Nieknam
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the place everyone recommends placing an EGT is on the manifold, 6" from the head, now if this is installed on the downpipe, wont the turbo propeller have cooled the exhaust sufficiently enough to give false readings? well, maybe not false, but inaccurate/delayed is a better word.
educate me on something guys,... if you take off the factory o2 housing and install the wideband instead, can the wires not be spliced so they go to the factory harness as well?
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Re: Zeitronix Wideband Group Buy ...
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December 08, 2004 07:32 am UTC
December 08, 2004 07:32 am UTC
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Rob Cauduro
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I have this package and it is worth every penny. I highly recomend it to everyone!!
Zeitronix recomends you place the LSU sensor aprox 12 inches from the turbo because the LSU doesnt like seeing EGT's higher than 850 degrees celcius.
BUT......
I have a custom O2 huosing, and I relocated my O2 bung as close to the down pipe as possible when fabricating a flange for my external gate on the housing. As it sits, the LSU is aprox 7.5 inches away from the turbo right now.
SO......
I got rid of the stock O2 sensor, put the LSU sensor in its spot, and wired the "narrow band" output signal wire from the Zeitronix control unit right to my ECU. Now my ECU is happy with a "narrowband" signal and I can log wideband all at the same time from one sensor.
I never see EGT's higher than 800 degrees anyways and by the time it gets to the LSU sensor, Im sure the exhaust temps are lower.
So basicly thats how mine is installed and thats how I got away from not welding a second bung in my downpipe.
BEWARE!!! If your not using the LSU (like not tuning with it at the time), and it is in a second bung somewhere along your exhaust system, make sure you either always keep power to it if you choose to leave it in the bung, or unplug the sensor from the bung and plug the hole because the sensor will clog up and become faulty if it doesnt always have power to it.
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Re: Zeitronix Wideband Group Buy ...
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December 10, 2004 04:31 am UTC
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Wes Swanson
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Daren, as for the life of the sensors I would imagine that they wouldn't last as long as normal 02 sensors (which can last an awful long time) but I would imagine they would still last for quite a long period of time. Even if it only lasts 2 or 3 years, its only about $100 for a new sensor (check out their website).
As per your second question ... I would recomend you get some sort of fuel management system or better yet my PMS so that you can actually alter the fuel, timing, montior knock etc, all things that are necessary to make power. By getting an engine management system and a wideband, it will alow you to tune your car with peice of mind, cuz we all know these motors aren't cheap.
On a sidenote ... Guys -- we still need a few more participants to get this show on the road so let me know if you are interested
95 Talon
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Re: Zeitronix Wideband Group Buy ...
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December 19, 2004 06:25 am UTC
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Wes Swanson
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we only need 2 more guys .... still waiting!
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Re: Zeitronix Wideband Group Buy ...
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December 20, 2004 05:05 am UTC
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Wes Swanson
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shipping is another 21US to your door I believe. If everyone gives me the $ and I order everything then we would save on shipping, but it would be just as easy to pay individually then have it shipped to your door.
Let us know Bernie!
95 Talon
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Re: Zeitronix Wideband Group Buy ...
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December 21, 2004 11:44 pm UTC
December 21, 2004 11:44 pm UTC
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Rob Greer
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Assuming we pay Zeitronix directly and they ship direct to each of us, I'll put my name down for the Zt-2 Bundle with the LCD display.
I'd also like to order an EGT probe extension harness, 2 O2 sensor bungs, an additional O2 sensor harness, an additional Signal Harness and I might as well get the free ECU capacitors too.
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Re: Zeitronix Wideband Group Buy ...
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December 21, 2004 11:48 pm UTC
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Wes Swanson
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well ... paying directly was the initial plan ...
anyone else?
95 Talon
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