Anyone interested in ca.dsm.org plate frames?

I think this is a good way to show club spirit/support without placing stickers on your car.

Perhaps a portion could go directly to this board. In fact I think it should be mandatory.

I lack resources to get this going, but perhaps a group effort could pull something together.

Please post with a Yes or No and any constructive comments are welcome.

Thanks

Adam

I think it is a nice idea! If there is interest, I would be willing to try to do some organiztional stuff...find out where they can be made, that kind of stuff. I would be willing to do this "non profit" for myself, if there is some "profit" from each sale going to the board. Basically I think we would need an approximate number, so that we could figure out the cost of having that many made. From there, we could figure out what to donate to the board, and come up with a final price. We would then NEED to sell the quantity we order.....I don't mind doing the work for this board, as this board has been good to me, but I don't want to end up being stuck with unsold frames that come out of my pocket...let's hear some more feed back...what do you guys think??

A guy I know in town here has had a custom frame made for his 1g. I'll try to find out where he got his done.

:rolleyes:

Well Ziggy and Shaun that would be mighty fine of you. Let us know what you find out.

Like I said any constructive opinions or ideas will help. Possibly any suggestions from people who have done this on other boards etc.

Keep it coming.

Adam

I'll take a set aswell.

I've already talked to you about this Grenon, but I just thought I'd throw in my $0.02. I personally think it's at great idea. As long as they aren't too tacky or anything, I definitely would run one on my car. And why not contribute back to the board. We all know that we use it enough that it deserves the payoff (even if it might be meager in this case). I think that's something that even you can admit Pete!

Yea forsure I would want one...

Everytime I see a DSM I wonder if they are part of this board. This way if we all have them I know who is part of the group!

id take one

I'll take one.

I'll take a set.

Ya I'd take one. As long as their not tacky Id put it on the ride. If they are tacky, it would go on the garage wall

I will take two.

Looks like lots of interest. Someone mentioned knowing someone who makes them....you could start looking into it. I am busy as hell today, and Melissa is off, but will have her start to investigate tomorrow...

Good to see the interest.. As for design, I would say the simpler the better.

E.G. Club DSM Canada Across the top with some sort of logo on both sides of that and then the web address across the bottom.

Any suggestions?

Ya, thats what I would have suggested. Would there be different colours to choose from? (Grey would be nice to match my car , but thats probably getting a little complicated) If not I would vote for black.

Edit: Maybe put the logo on the bottom & the web address ontop

I was kind of hoping Ziggy would put his machining skill to work, a machined aluminum frame would look sweet.
Maybe he could set up a package price for 1 or 2 frames and the billet Eagle logo's...
I would only need one frame, but I would have to see the design first.

Thats a good Idea, match my shift knob from him.

I think that the machined aluminum frames are a good idea, but it's probably asking a little too much. Ziggy's doing enough by just trying to find someone that makes these frames and get them for us, and although I'm sure they would look nice, having Ziggy make custom aluminum frames at his cost and still have the proceeds go to ca.dsm.org is a lot to ask. Plus, I'm sure they would be much more costly and you wouldn't have as many people buying them, which kind of defeats the whole purpose of this (being able to recognize board members and also show support by donating back to the site). Anyone else have any opinions on this?

Yah I agree with you steve... Who would be able to read anyting off an aluminum frame anyways?

Plastic, black.. simple and effective is the way to go.

Steve hit the nail right on the head..they would be too expensive!! They would be nice, but too expensive!! Something plastic and cheap I think...this is basically just to show you are a member and to support this board....

Ok, not sure if interest in this is still there, or has died. I did some checking the plate frames are pretty cheap, the problem is that there is a large minimum....I have to buy 250 frames.

At that quantity, if the printing is in one colour only, cost would be $1.34 per frame. That would be in individual plastic sleeves, so the printing doesn't get scratched. Otherwise, they would be 9 cents cheaper.

If we wanted a 2 colour print job, cost would jump to $1.89 per frame.

The cost is cheap enough, the problem is going to be selling enough of them....

I think we need some more feedback before proceeding with this....

Even with the single colour, total investment for the 250 frames would be $358.45 with GST. If we assumed for a moment that we were only going to sell 25 pairs (and I think they should be sold as pairs only, since we need to sell lots)....we would have to charge almost $15/pair just to break even.

If we sold 50 pairs, it would be like $7.25 per pair to break even. I think the only way this is going to work, is if we sell AT LEAST 60 pairs of frames. If we charged $7. per pair, we would not turn ANY profit until the 52nd pair.

If it looks like there is the support, I would be willing to stick my neck out for the initial cost. I could sell them personally, rather than through the company, so there would be no taxes, but then I would have to pay PST when I buy them, making the total $385.25. That would mean no profit until the 56th pair.....

Not sure that this will raise much for the club...
or are you guys willing to go higher with the price? Maybe $10/pair, no taxes? It would be no different than making a $10.donation to the club, just you would get a pair of licence plate frames, and the first $385. would go towards the cost of the frames instead of to Andy. Anything after that point would go 100% to Andy...

Let me know what you guys think.....

edited for spelling

I wonder if we bought more than 2 pairs if there would be a discount or a buy 2 pair get the third free.

Sounds like theres going to be a lot left over anyways.

What about shipping can you send these by regular ground mail to keep the costs down?

I don't have any in my hands to try, but I would hope that 2 pieces would fit into an envelope and still be thin enough to go by regular mail....if so, they can ship for $1., otherwise, they would cost about $5. or $6. to ship...Only thing is, if the envelope is not padded enough, they might break...if it IS padded enough, they might be too thick....

Maybe we can ship a bunch off to one guy in the London area, one guy in the Ottawa area, etc., and have people pick up there to keep shipping costs down??

My only concern with doing third set free or something like that, is are guys going to get together and split an order to cut costs? I would need to recover my investmment before any money went to Andy, and if guys are going to get them cheaper, I am afraid we won't sell enough for Andy to make anything out of this....

Let's have more feedback!!

I would be willing to serve as a depot in the london area. I have two dsms and thats what I want two plates for. I was going to sneak the other set onto mothers buick.

"Nathan all these loud cars keep honking and waving at me!"

"I have no idea why that would be!"

Even at $10 a pair that seems like a great deal to me. I would be willing to pay $20 for a pair, as the whole purpose of this is to advertise the club & help it out financially. $20 doesn't seem out of line to me, I know there are other clubs that charge a $20 membership fee & all you get is a couple small vinyl stickers.

20 seems alright for me. As of right now i'll only need one set. But who knows I might go crazy and get two cause I know im going to have another talon some day.

We ran a GB like this on the Colt board and the guy sold them for 15USD a set plus shipping.
I'd be in for a set for sure.

Well, if we can up the price, that is less sets we need to sell until we break even and start to make some money for the board....I should get a sample set and look into shipping costs...Like I said, if they go regular envelope, they would ship for a buck, but be processed by machine...I would worry about breakage..they are just plastic...If I put them in good bubble envelopes, the envelopes are about a buck or more, and the postage will go up to about $5.

I will look into this. Also, any suggestions for "artwork"? I can't find the page that gave the size of the imprintable area, but I am pretty sure there was an area at the top and one at the bottom. Also, what are thoughts on sticking to one colour to keep costs down. If we are going to up the price, we COULD go up to 2 colours, I just don't want to end up stuck with a bunch of these out of my pocket and the board making nothing..that is my only concern..

Personally I like the 10$ a pair price, but hey if you got the cash just donate 10$ to andrew directly!

$10 or $20 bucks is no big deal, I'd love a set. Get rid of the dealership ones I have on now.

I will be in for a set or 2 whatever the price $10-$20.

I'm definitely in for a set!

I'm cool with 10-20$ a pair as well.

As for artwork, well somones got to be able to photoshop something together. I will see what I can come up with, I am not very artistic though lol.

What size of space will there be for the logos/lettering?

Yah, once we find out the dimensions of the frame used for text, etc. Grenon and I could fab. up something if no one else wants to. Of course if we're working with only 1 or 2 colours maximum, it's not going to be flashy anyways and I don't think "artwork" is really needed. But in my opinion on license plate frames, simple = good.

I will see if I can get those sizes today...

It doesn't need to be flashy or anything. The more subtle the better IMO. Even something saying "Club DSM Canada" then having a maple leaf, have that at the top, then maybe the website address at the bottom.

yeah, I was thinking Club DSM Canada on top, ca.dsm.org on bottom. maybe the talon, eclipse, laser emblems on down on the sides. If that, I'm sure it will all work out.

I was thinking the exact same thing Jay, maybe minus the symbols (would add extra colours and also in my opinion it wouldn't look as "clean"). Anyways, what was everyone's verdict on what they thought would look good anyways, are they going to be plain black frames with white (or whatever it ends up being) coloured text?

That sounds like a good design, just the plainer the better on these things. There isn't too much space you can use. Once there are some designs maybe more guys will be in on it, I know I will be

Matt