Ok, I found out they CAN ship regular mail, but will still cost a little more than I thought. THey will be processed by machine, but I think inside a bubble envelope, they should be OK.

The bubble envelopes are $1.39 each (I can look around and see if I can do better in quantity), and shipping within Canada is $2.45, so with GST shipping will be $4.11. At that price, I also can't put ANYTHING extra into an envelope, that would be the limit....

The printable area..on the top, it is 6"(152mm) wide and 7/8"(22.2mm)high. On the bottom, it is 10.5"(267mm) wide, by again 7/8" (22.2mm) high...

Personally, I think we need to stick with one colour to keep them cheap...I would think either white lettering on black, or black lettering on white...


Let's keep the feedback coming...

Alright Ziggy, that's pretty good news on the shipping and good work with getting the design dimensions! I was just wondering how the design for these works? If we can fab. up a couple designs with different fonts, could we send them a picture, or are there certain boundaries (font-faces, etc.) that would have to fall within? If there aren't limitations on the fonts, I'm sure a few of us could make some different ones and post them for everyone's input.

I think Red letters on a black surface would work too. IMO

Any idea if we're able to put images (logos) on the frame or just text?
White on black or red on black would probably look the best imo

Mike, usually images consist of more than one colour, which pretty much stops us from adding them right there (Price would be sky-high). Plus, I don't know how well images would show on a license plate frame anyways.

Yeah, absolutely I'd be interested in, probably, two sets (one for the Talon, one for the winter beater). As for the price, I think anyone who would even CONSIDER balking at the idea of paying a measly $10 per set should crawl off into a corner and hide their head in shame. I would think they should be too ashamed to ever post on this board again. I think the price shouldn't be ONE CENT LESS than, like, $15 as an ABSOLUTE minimum. I think $20 is probably more reasonable. Sh*t, if someone can't cough up $20 for a plate frame which helps to support the Club, I think they should reconsider being in the Club. Now, I can understand if someone (for whatever reason) doesn't want a licence plate frame. That's fine. Maybe they haven't got the money to spend, maybe they're going through a tough time, maybe they don't like plate frames, whatever. But if they're going to get one, and they quibble over the price, something's wrong with that picture.

Anyway, count me in, and as has been suggested, the simpler, the better.

I totally agree that $20 towards a frame and supporting the club isn't that much to ask for at all. Of course, the lower the price, the better the chances of getting the required # of people.

Got bored at work (gotta love gov't employees! ) so I came up with a few ideas. I'm no good at photoshop at all, but at least it'll give you guys a mental image.

<a href="http://home.cogeco.ca/~michael.carag/Plate_Red.jpg">Red on Black</a>
<a href="http://home.cogeco.ca/~michael.carag/Plate_Red_2.jpg">Red on Black with logo</a>
<a href="http://home.cogeco.ca/~michael.carag/Plate_Red_3.jpg">Red on Black with logo 2</a>
<a href="http://home.cogeco.ca/~michael.carag/Plate_White.jpg">White on Black</a>
<a href="http://home.cogeco.ca/~michael.carag/Plate_White_2.jpg">White on Black with logo</a>

just tossin out some ideas.

I really like the red on black with logo#2

The white on black would be highercontrast and more visible though and that would be good!

I agree with Nathan on red and black logo #2 or just the plain red to black.

To be completely honest, even before Mike made up those images I didn't think I was going to like the red text on the frames, but after seeing those, I'm definitely a fan. And as everyone has stated, definitely liking the Red and Black Logo 2. Hopefully I can get my laptop working again soon (with all the graphics design stuff on it) and throw some more together as well!

I'm all for #2 as well..

Simple, effective, clear to the point.

I like #2 in either white or red.

Think I like the white better, red doesn't really go with my grey car

Daren, Unfortunately when we're limited to one colour besides the background, that image at the top of the screen is not really feasable and would drive the price way up.

The red is okay, but personaly I like the white better, better contrast and will match any car as Darren stated...

Matt

You could do it in one colour, couldn't you? Just have the maple leaf as a solid colour, plymouth & eagle outlines & mitsu as a solid. That would work?

It might "work", but I am not sure it would be "instantly recognizable". I think anything that you have to think about to decipher what it is would be less than ideal....
I also like the white on black, think it stands out well, and goes with any colour....

I actually like the white on black with NO logo the best.....

Exactly! We want these frames to be instantly recognizable. Everyone knows text and most people can read! But if we tried to re-design the symbol at the top of the page in all one colour using outlines, etc. it's just not going to come out very well no matter what. People would look at the symbol and think "wtf?" whereas they could simply be reading the words "Club DSM Canada" and "ca.dsm.org" and understand what it was about. (hopefully).

I do like the red design with the logo #2, but yes, White and Black do match most cars a little better.

Red also shows our canadian spirt I think.

OK, I went away to Japan for a week, and I got busy at work, and all talk of this just stopped!

Is this idea dead, or should I go ahead and have them made? Have we decided on colour? what to print where? Price?

Let's revive this and see if we can't make a decision..

red doesn't really go well with all colors of cars though.

To come to consensus on this matter I would assume the best idea would be to go with white lettering on black frames. As for whats printed on it I would be satisfied with "Club DSM Canada" on the top and CA.DSM.ORG on the bottom. I don't really care if there is any logo or not, but it's up to what everyone else wants.

Fine with me lets do this before summer!

That sounds great. I'd be in for those.

Ok, I will get these ordered. I think they will be just like the sample on the first page of this thread, the white on black, no logo. Club DSM Canada on the bottom, and ca.dsm.org on the top.

Now, how about cost? I think we had already determined that it is going to be a little over $4./set to ship these by mail....How about...since this is not for profit, and the proceeds are going to the club (after I recover my expenses), how about we charge $20./set shipped, whether I mail them out or whether you pick them up. It just means those guys picking them up are contributing a little more to the club. How does that sound??

Ok I think this is the way to go to then. White lettering on black frames with just Club DSM Canada and ca.dsm.org top and bottom or vice versa doesn't matter, I would think we would put Club DSM canada on the largest portion be it top or bottom and the web address on the smaller portion.

Ziggy if you can confirm details with us to get this done and what we need to make it happen that would be great. I'm gonna say $20 should be a good set price for each set (2 frames), with no option for buying individual frames. Please guys no hooking up your buddies with one frame make them buy their own set.

I will start a thread in the Group purchases forum for getting a list of people that want them together.

Edited: Ziggy just read your post, $20 shipped or not shipped sounds great to me

Adam,

I agree, Club DSM Canada on the larger portion, which is why I moved it to the bottom. The top has the mounting holes, so there we will put ca.dsm.org. I am going to print out the pic on page one of this thread and bring that to the guy who makes them.

As far as I am concerned, the only thing we might still need to make this happen is a reminder....I am getting old, have a memory like a sieve, and get busy and forget stuff, LOL. I will try to get over to the guy tomorrow and get the order placed. I will also check business depot and see if I can do better on bubble envelopes than the $1.39 each or whatever it was at the post office...

I will post when they are in, and what the total cost was. I am going to do this OUTSIDE of my companies books, so I will pay PST and GST on them, but then, since I am personally selling them, not the company, I don't need to charge the taxes. We will just say the $20. figure includes shipping if necessary, and otherwise the full amount can come off my expenses. I will add to the initial cost whatever I spend on shipping (envelopes and postage), and whenever my money is recovered, the rest will go to Andrew for the board!

Sound OK??


Edited for an afterthought:

I suppose I should keep a list of who bought, and what they paid (just in case someone WANTS to pay extra), so that first of all there would be a proper "accounting" and hopefully no-one will accuse me of pocketing any of the money, and secondly Andrew would know who "contibuted" to the board....

Sounds good Ziggy, Let us know when they will be ready and we will go from there.

In the meantime, for the rest of the group please see my thread in the group purchases section to add your name to the list. We will reserve this thread for anything else in relation to the frames.

Thanks alot to everyone who participates and an extra special thanks to Ziggy.

Also many thanks to Andrew for hosting this site for us, my car would likely be in the scrap yard if not for this site helping me keep it alive

Frames were ordered today . He said 10 working days, so about the 18th or so I should get them in. I don't have the outside dimensions any more, so I will wait until then to check out bubble envelopes (or maybe I will just measure my plate and allow a little extra....). I would say they sould be ready to ship by the 20th...and those who could wait until the Yorkdale meet to get them, that would be no shipping, therefore more money to the club instead of to Canada Post

Ziggy thats awsome, I will be coming to the may yorkdale meet so I will pick my set up then and also you have my lights in which I will pick up then to.

I'll be at may yorkdale aswell.

Sorry to hyjack, but are stickers still available?

No this has nothing to do with stickers. It's not even relevent. The last time I heard about stickers was 2 years ago, and even then there was nothing.

Ok, plate frames are in!!!

It worked out slightly different than the original plan...they didn't include the plastic sleeves...and they charged a print setup charge,...and they went slightly over the minimum..they made 263 instead of 250.

On the plus side, price per piece was $.99 instead of $1.34. With both taxes, it ended up costing $377.63. That is about 8 bucks less than planned, but we didn't get the plastic sleeves, but we did get 13 extra frames....

Anyways, I have them now. I will bring a bunch to Yorkdale, and those who have paid or who are local can pick up here. Always best to call me first..905-383-8230

Those who want shipped (if you aren't coming to Yorkdale, you can send payment and I will get them out...I still need to buy bubble envelopes for these....

First set is going on MY car
(or should we donate first set to Andrew Bienhaus, and second set goes on my car??)


Ziggy

I'm seeing a few different numbers here, whats the final price for a set picked up at yorkdale?

Since the profits are all going to a good cause (this board), we decided to make them $20./set, taxes included, and that is picked up or shipped. If you pick them up, there is more profit for the board. If they are shipped, it is a little less for the board....

I think everyone felt this was a fair price and good for the board..

I'll pick mine up at Yorkdale.

Im intrested in it too
i do lkie the red on black with the eagle,mitsu,plymouth symbols so that ppl know whast dsm's turly are