Anyone up for a test & tune on September 15th at Cayuga Dragway???

Hopefully it won't be too hot, and our cars will run nice and smooth.

If we can get a good group of people, why not organize a BBQ, everybody brings something, and we can all have some fun. A little bit of racing with a BBQ on the side, I think it will turn out to be a great day.(Will they allow that??)

Let me know what you guys think.

I'm in. Just lemme know what to bring.

If i can get the car put together and tuned by then, i'll show up.

I'll be up for that...

Sounds good and my car should be ready

Hmmmm, maybe I should come too.

Ya that would be good Vince... I could use someone running 16s, 15s and 14s to boost my confidence a little .

Here we go again...

I'll come... they sell race gas up there, right?

It's the only way I'll get past my knock problem at this measly 13psi.

hmmmm, you talking about stinger?

I love seeing FWD's spin all the way to the end of the 1/4 and then pick up their high 14-15 second slip....it should be fun.

is that a friday?

Sunday September 15,2002
- what actually happens during a test and tune? Never been, but would like to attend this time around.

Just line up and race against the guy in the other lane. No eliminations... just race as often as you like (or the line ups let you).

Stinger's first time out to the track ever... I don't expect too much .

I think I'll have Daisy's 'bugz' worked out by then, and 16's here I come...

BTW, where are we meeting up for the caravan???

DARKO RACE GAS AIN'T GONNA HELP YOU THIS TIME. MIKE AND I ARE GOING TO CLEAN HOUSE...TRI CITY POWER. BTW MIKE YOU'RE GOING DOWN TOO. I'M SICK OF HEARING HOW FAST EVERYONE IS-NOW I WANT TO SEE!

Full timing retard and 40 knocksum past 5000rpm... yeah, I have a feeling race gas MIGHT help me out a bit

We'll see there Paul . It's tough for a car to run mid 13s out of the box but I may be able to.

Since were talking about the subject, anyone know where I can get race gas, what would be the best one to buy???

i have a buddy who works for Edward Fuels(Shell)
and can order the Shell race gas.(i think it's called Torco, not sure what the octane is) if you buy it by the barell it's not that much more expensive than 93 pump. but anywhere that supplies natural gas or oil burning furnace supplies for Shell can order it.

Ontario Competition fuels in Streetsville. They sell all unleaded stuff there. The 114 stuff is awesome

Hell they'll pump it right into your car for you

Damnit! Everything this bloody club does conflicts with my schedual's. I have a BMW Driving Experience thing at Shannonville that day! DAMNIT!!! When is the next T&T after that?

Ian how about this Sunday coming up? It's the fall Mopar Classic at Cayuga... wanna embarass some Chargers and Road Runners with me?

anyone know what the entrance fee is for the T&T on the 15th?

mke are you going for sure? I may be interested in going that day. is it a day or night event?

Craig, does this mean that we may see you at the track this year ?
Mike I should be in if I can get 500km on the clutch by then...

I'm going for sure this Sunday Vince. It's a Sunday so it's got to be a day event I would think (10 till 4 if I rememebrf rom last year).

Cool Craig... haven't seen you car for a while .

Its gonna be in the 30s this sunday... if its a day event, it ain't gonna be a good one!

Sure it will . Old school cars = lots of traction spray on the track... add to that a hot sun = wicked 60 fts .

i just found out that I have my soccer playoff's this sunday . I don't think I'll be able to make it.

I guess I'll have to wait till the 15th.

not sure if I'm going on the 15th yet or not (I've been throwin the idea around) it's cost of entrance fee dependant. guess I'll have to see

I try to make it out there slippng clutch and all . Still unpacking from the move.

I'm so excited . I'm going this Sunday to get some times. Then next Friday I'm getting the cams in and removing the balance shafts... then racing that Sunday .

Gotta hit the dyno here in town after that too .

Damn Mopar day was cancelled tomorrow... it's still going to be an open T&T plus bracket racing.

Should be quite empty considering the import day is today... lots of racing .

I'm still going for sure, I think my brother will too. Tim Hunt is coming last I heard and Paul Bishop was considering it.

Are you guys still interested in having the BBQ, or rather skip that idea???

If interested, we should get organized and figure it out what we shoud bring.

Did u figure out if they would let us do it up there...(the bbq for u sick minded ppl)

Considering that this will be my first time out…what does something like this cost? Is this a whole day thing or half day?
Where and what time do we all meet prior the drive up to the track.
Sorry for the dumb questions!

It's about $20 bucks for as many runs as you can make within the five or so hours the TnT runs.

Yes we will have a little battle of the FWD vs. AWD's! Hot sun and cool breeze would be ideal.

Vince hopefully you will come out, I wanna shake the hand of the man that posts pictures of granny driving an S2000 yelling "where's the torque?" on a Honda ricer forum...LOL

Darko, I may be wrong but full knock sum at only 13psi with a frount mount IC sounds like you got bigger problems than just gas. Don't think racegas will do anything for you, but hopefully you isolate the problem before then...

Kay, GTA guys, Hwy 10 & Britannia (Timmies) @ 8 am.

Please post if you're planning on joining us for the drive down, just so we'll know who to wait for.

Oh yea, a couple of Civics, my brother & his friend, might join us too.

Thanks.

I'm in @ Timmies...

I'm in for this one. I'll be at Timmies at 8am.

Might be bringing a buddy with a Grand Am GT that even Darko should beat...

Just remember, I WILL race you on the highway if need be... and believe me when I say that you WON'T win.

I'll come if I get my rad fixed (its spewin steam and coolant like a biotch now). The knock problem SEEMS to be phased out, but that's just my ass tellin me that. I gotta log it before then, cuz I dont wanna waste time and money goin down there to run with knock.

I thought that if we were having a club event we were supposed to be very courteous, law obiding folk, that way we don't get the same rep that the Honda boyz have, I mean we are already considered chumps, just because we got exhausts, do we really need to give them another reason to bad mouth us, keep the races at the track, sh!t man I mean that's where we're going aren't we?

sh!t, sorry Mike I didn't see your post until just now. Lol, I guess its a bit to late? Anyways, my car wasn't ready until Sunday night anyways. Marco is calling me a bitch because I haven't driven it since I got it back. Oh well what can you do eh?

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Bart Cieslikiewicz:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Darko Miodrag:
<strong>Just remember, I WILL race you on the highway if need be... and believe me when I say that you WON'T win.

Just checked the weather forecast for Sunday, and it's not looking very good, 80% chance of rain down in Cayuga.

We still have a few more days, hopefully it will change.

Just trying to give you a hard time Darko, it usually gets followed by a pretty funny reply from ya,(I think most ppl on this board enjoy that) but hey thanx for pointing that out...

p.s. There's a difference between driving fast and racing...

quite a lot of talk from someone who hasn't had a timeslip under his belt yet....heheheheh

sorry, couldn't resist.

Darko a fast driver?

He had a hard enough time keeping up to me at the "forks of the credit". It's ok guys, Practice makes perfect right?

*cough* we raced down HWY10 *cough*

beeotch

anyway this is turning into a test forum thread

let's pick up on the sh!t talkin when we actually meet up on sunday

I'll try to be at timmes @ 8:00am.
If not don't wait for me I'll meet you guys down there.
later.

I'll be coming from London, is there anyone going from London, I am not exactly sure how to get there....

8:00 is way too early for me.

This thread has been up for a while, who is still going?

Vince, i think a lot of ppl is still going.

it's not hard to get there... from the QEW Niagara it's just southbound on highway 20 (which turns into hwy 56-past Hamilton). You will past the towns of Binbrook and Empire (something). Make a right on hwy 3 (which is a T).. head westbound #3 for about 10mins and you will see the cayuga sign on the left side of the road. This is where you turn left and you will reach in in about another 5mins.

i'll meet u guys at the timmies at mud st. and hwy 20 @ 8.30. I'll join you guys but I wont be racing.

I'll be coming too. I'll meet you guys at the tim hortons at mud and hwy 20 at 8:30 too.

There is a 60% chance of rain, you guys still going??

I'm not sure if I want to drive all the way down there if it's going to be raining.

My decision is pending on the forecast when I wake up Sunday morning.

I'll do the same as Carlos...

Anyone taking one of those cigarette lighter air compressors to inflate tires? I'll try to make it for 8:00am at timmies.....weather depending.

Looking at the radar here it looks like it will be a dry day in t.o. in the afternoon, so guesstimating here, but it should be ok in Cayuga mid morning, think about it, most ppl won't wanna go and if we go we can get more runs in...

NM, I take the last post back, according to <a href="http://www.theweathernetwork.com/cities/can/cayuga_ON.htm" target="sh!t">the forecast for Cayuga</a> it will be a shitty day all day...any responses...

It's a little damp outside, but not raining. It should be clear by mid-morning. Me & my brother will be at Timmies by 8 am today. See you guys there........I hope.

I'll be there at 8:00.

I guess we can decide from there.

see ya

i just called but the office is not open yet.

still looks very damp out here in hamilton though... i'll try to call again later. if you need me to call u, post your tel #s

i just called....they are open today.

"if the weather holds up and the track dries, u guys will get to run"

i'll see u guys at timmies @ hwy20/mud st.at 9am

Todays Test and tune turned out pretty good.

Although we thought we were in for a big dissapointment as Cayuga scheduled an event w/ T&T in between the rounds. But ironically due to rain we got to run more.

most of us managed to get in 5-6 runs in before the event got rained on ang got canceled. Good turn out with about 10 DSMs and most of us had a good time there (I know Darko did..hehe)

as for me, the first run was a write off... no traction and I sat there spinning my tires ending up with a 16sec run (lol!), my last 3 runs were 14.9secs...slower than my personal bests but I kindda expected those times from the problems i've been having with my car.

I think I only got 3 runs in ... I needed one or two more.

First run out of the box 13.402 (new best) @106.87.

The other 2 runs were shittier launches, however, after some between run tuning the 2nd run was @107.05 and the final 108.44 (new best).

I needed a few more to get it tuned right and get a good lauch with a fast trap. Oh well. She spit out the dipstick on the last run on me though .

So I keep slpwly widdling my best ET and traps each time but only by a little. Need a few more days at the track this year. I might try Sparta next.

My best run (out of 4) was a 13.8 at 97 mph... on 13psi and 25knocksum in 3rd gear.

I backed that up with a 13.9 at 95mph.

Both times I had low 1.8 second 60' times, launching at 6200ish RPM and hangin on for dear life. Needless to say im extremely happy that I broke 13s with such little effort from the turbo, and that much knock.

Who knows, there may just be a 12 in this thing before the season is out

JR broken into 13s as well on his T25, but he can talk about that himself.

Im damn happy that I decided to stay for the runs!!!

It wasn't a good day for me, best I could do was 14.6........and that was on my 1st run.

My brother was happy though. He got a 15.2 in his Civic, I just don't remember the trap speed.

Wahoo! Today I had a ball. It was my first time ever on a track. I started off a little rough with a 15.549@92.76mph. I had a real crappy 60' of 2.89! After a little more testing than tuning, and on my 4th run of the day I ran an awesome 13.88@95.29mph and a 60' of 1.88. Sweet! All this on a puny T-25 and a factory I/C. The rest of the DSMers also had a fun time. We have to do this again.

Yeah, I was a little afraid of the rain so I decided to stay in, it turned out to be a really really bad day for me, so now I kind of wish that I went, even if to watch

It's good to see some new personal bests.

I Dj'd ay my buddies party Saturday night in London and didn't end up going to sleep till 6:30am... I took a look out the window at 9:00am and saw wet ground and a bit of rain...I said screw it I am going back to sleep (which was only for another 45min, that's when someone decided it was a good idea to go out for breakfast).

Mike J, You just keep getting faster and faster every time out to the track....I remember those days enjoy them while they last and hope that one day you won't drop a full second like me...

13.4 Nice job you really need some more tuning time though, 3 runs isn't enough and I bet you had to wait for ever betwen runs. That's pretty close to a 13.2....but we all know how the rest of the saying goes that saying goes, something about horse shoes and hand grenades

Wow, you guys are now in Turbo Focus Territory!

Thanks for the props Vince. But as for that little jab... let's see your 108.44 mph slip? I'm faster... you're just a tad quicker. Another couple more times out and I'll catch your ET too .

What can I say, we'll just have to see what 4 more lbs of boost and some HKS cams do for my 106.6mph.

Jay, how does running low 13's put us anywhere the econo box racing Territory? You have that class covered and I think it's safe to say there will be no challengers.

And I can't wait to see what another 8psi of boost, cams, and less knock will do for me

Hopefully I can hit the track one more time before the season is out.

We have our rain check, so of course we should go back again this year

Yeah, I want another kick at the can before year's end too.

Somehow, my car ran SLOWER yesterday with the big 16G @12psi than it did with the 14B @15psi earlier this year.

I guess it wasn't too much of a surprise since my Butt Dyno told me that already. Guess I have some tuning to do...

Get an EGT and up that boost Phil.

I wasn't sure if I was going to mention my time but what the hell.
16.79 @ 84.36mph
I didn't know it at the time but I have major knock issues.
Borrowed Jermery's logger on the way home from Cayuga and found out that i was getting max. knock sums at at about 25% throttle. Heck I was getting knock going down hill .
So my knock sensor is completely shot.I'll be getting a brand new and hopefully she'll run a lot better.
Stay tuned.

Phil, you can't really compare the 2 turbo's at different boost settings. No one is supposed to run a 16g at 12psi (unless you're Darko ). Going from 12 to 15psi should be a world of a difference. I rally feel it when I go from 15 to 17psi.

You may have knock issues like Tony too.

Yeah, you're right about comparing the turbos at different boost levels. I just expected more from the 16G but at such low boost it's unrealistic.

I'm playing it safe with boost until I get bigger injectors. I logged the car a couple weeks ago and had almost no knock, so that shouldn't be the issue. I do have a boost leak tho; I can hear it like a shrill whistle at anything more than 8psi. I think it's the BOV.

I'm definitely up for another another T&T before the end of the year so I can pull off some decent times.

I was ready for another T&T but I just found out that I've been running on ~90psi compression across the board, since like July... Im turnin down the boost and puttin' on the winter tires, cuz this baby is done.