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Injectors #169050
September 22, 2000 12:44 am UTC
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This question pertains to those using a 20g or bigger turbo. What size injectors are you using? I'm using 550cc Lucas type injectors. Anyone know up to what amount of horsepower can the 550's accomodate enough fuel?

Kon

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Re: Injectors #169051
September 22, 2000 02:02 am UTC
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Well I'm using 720 on my big Garrett and the duty cycle dooesn't go above 84%.

Francois Villeneuve is still using 550's with his Frank 3, but the duty cycke is getting up there.

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September 22, 2000 02:06 am UTC
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With a fuel pressure regulator 550s can see you into the mid 11s (ie. 400hp+ at the engine).


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September 22, 2000 07:54 pm UTC
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You're right. I bumped my base pressure to about 45-47psi and it's running MUCH BETTER!

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September 22, 2000 10:47 pm UTC
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Francois, I'm running a base of 40 psi. Buschur told me on race gas that I can run 36-38 psi. How did you know to bump base pressure to 45-47 psi? Has someone with experience told you to bump your pressure this high or did you just experiment with fuel pressure?

Thanks for all the help guys,

Kon


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September 24, 2000 07:05 am UTC
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Well, 2G's base pressure is 41-44psi, so I just added a couple of psi more.

I did have to lean it a bit at idle and part throttle, but otherwise, it runs fine. And with the cool weather, I have the extra fuel needed to avoid running lean.

I think 1G's base pressure is much lower. So if you adjust your pressure too high from the recommended setting, your car might run poorly.

BTW, why did he told you to run less pressure with race gas?

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September 25, 2000 12:52 am UTC
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I was told to set it to 40 psi at idle so as to make sure the car has more than enough fuel on pump gas (92 octane) to fend off detonation and running too lean. The race gas allows you to run much leaner, so I can drop fuel pressure a bit if I really want.

On the other hand, I ran a personal best yesterday at the track, 12.286 @ 113.451 MPH! I was quite happy with this as I did this on my second pass (keep in mind that I'm FWD!). I can smell 11's! But unfortunetly I couldn't make another pass as my SX fuel pressure regulator started leaking from the vacuum source that runs back into the intake manifold, causing the car to act/run funny. Going to send it off and get inspected by Essex Industries to see what's wrong with it.

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September 25, 2000 06:19 am UTC
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WOW! That's excellent! It probably makes you one of the fastest DSM in Ontario! [Linked Image]

Sorry to hear about that faulty FPR though!

I'm waiting for the next sunny and cool test and tune day at my local track. I'd be very, very happy with a 12.2x!!! I've been fighting with numerous issues all over the year, but now all seems to be good.

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Re: Injectors #169058
September 25, 2000 03:33 pm UTC
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Kon,

That's a fantastic time! You must have scared the sh!t out of all the v8's at SIR. Glad to see you haven't given up on your car.D:

p.s. Kon is from Saskatchewan. (and doing us proud)



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September 25, 2000 08:36 pm UTC
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Oops, sorry Kon!

You're not that far from 11's. Is there many canadian members in the 11's? I know Lowell Foo from BC has been in the 11's for quite some time. Anybody else???

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Re: Injectors #169060
October 03, 2000 02:48 am UTC
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Me, Francois!

Just ran a 11.964 @ 117.648 MPH at Viking International Raceway in Gimli, Manitoba yesterday! And on my very last pass of the season...whew! Now...what to do to the car THIS winter....

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EXCELLENT!!!!!!!! GOOD WORK!

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