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winter storage on suspension #182197
February 28, 2004 09:00 pm UTC
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I was wondering if anything can go bad with the suspension during winter storage since I left the car sitting on it. I put in a new set of tokico shocks and eibach springs last summer so its pretty new.

Re: winter storage on suspension #182198
February 29, 2004 08:08 am UTC
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generally you should not have any problem with the suspension.. some people say you should leave it on a full tank while others say empty... personally i leave any car for winter on empty.. and i've never had a problem in the spring when it goes back on the road... especially with new suspension under there.. just let it warm up for a few days before any hard driveing.. smile


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Re: winter storage on suspension #182199
February 29, 2004 08:44 pm UTC
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Generally you will leave the tank full in order to prevent condensation in the gas tank. I suppose you can just use a water remover in the spring and wait until that (small) bad batch of gas has been used up, but I also leave the tank full. As for suspension, it should not cause any troubles.

Re: winter storage on suspension #182200
February 29, 2004 10:24 pm UTC
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Winter storage has always been a catch 22. Full tank goes bad. Empty tank fills with condensation and the new gas gets watered down. Putting the car on blocks really helps take weight and stress off the springs and can help.
The only REAL problem is the oil going to the bottom of the oil pan after months and then doing a seriously DRY start up that beats the motor as much as it wouldve just driving it all winter.

Old V8s you just pull the distributor and put a hex drive in an electric drill and run the oil pump to prime the motor with oil but Ive no clue how to do that with a 4G63. Anyone???

Re: winter storage on suspension #182201
February 29, 2004 11:27 pm UTC
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You can do it but it's pretty much a t-belt job. Or you MIGHT be able to just remove the oil pump sprocket, making sure the t-belt doesn't move, and spin the shaft with a drill. Watch from the oil fill cap for squirting. It can take a while for the pump to prime but you'll feel the resistance when it catches. Removing the lower tbelt cover is still a bit of a job smile Afterwards make sure all the timing marks line up, as per tbelt vfaq.

I always thought it's best to start the engine every few weeks if possible. You don't want your seals going dry, moisture corroding everything, etc.


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Re: winter storage on suspension #182202
March 01, 2004 12:43 am UTC
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Thanks guys. I was more just concerned about the suspension, but I can see the issues about the engine and oil. Sometimes what I do if the car hasn't been started for a while is disconnect the coil and crank the engine to get some oil flowing before starting it. I know this isn't the best method since you're still getting metal to metal contact but I found it helps when starting the car. Also before storing the car, I spray a foging oil into each cylinder to keep the rings from rusting.

Re: winter storage on suspension #182203
March 01, 2004 02:00 am UTC
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Why cant we just pull the ignition relay? The car will turn over (the oil pump will turn) without there being spark, do this a few times to get oil up and around, then put the relay back in?

??? Wouldent this work?

Re: winter storage on suspension #182204
March 01, 2004 02:23 am UTC
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Take off the spark plug wires, remove the spark plugs and dump some oil down each cylinder.

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Re: winter storage on suspension #182205
March 01, 2004 03:09 am UTC
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Oil down each cylinder and then starting it is a good way to hydrolock a cylinder and blow pistons and break rods. Dumping oil in November and staring it in may is fine though. Removing the coil wire and spinning the motor does nothing different than just starting it. You gotta either prime it like steve said or just start it as often as possible during the winter months.

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I just fire it up every 2 weeks, and drive it in circles in the underground parking until the thermostat opens smile


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Re: winter storage on suspension #182207
March 01, 2004 04:13 am UTC
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Me to but I take it out and do 4whl drifts up the laneway untill I get bored laugh

Re: winter storage on suspension #182208
March 03, 2004 05:19 pm UTC
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Re: putting the car on blocks

You should never jack up your car for extended periods of time. When you jack up your car, your suspension fully extends exposing the shock rod to the air. Over time the metal rod can gather surface rust and become pitted. Next spring when you lower your car, this surface rust and pitting will tear the sh!t out of your shock seals and you'll soon be looking for new ones. frown


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Re: winter storage on suspension #182209
March 03, 2004 08:11 pm UTC
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Hey, I just drive my car everyday and this way I dont have to worry about suspension, oil, gas, ect. But not to worry I store my car every night in a well sealed garage, so I guess you can say I store it just over night, each night. laugh wink Not long enough to put on blocks though. Mmmm maybe I could save my suspension if I put it on blocks. Over night! freak laugh


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Re: winter storage on suspension #182210
March 06, 2004 02:26 am UTC
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I think most of this winter stuff is urban legends and plain crap.
Some say start the car and let it run or seals and stuff will dry out.Others say it don't get hot enough unless you go for decent distance drive and that just sludges things up.

And its all fine to throw some oil in the cylinders in our talons but I have some cars at home you ain't getting to the cylinders unless you have a spare 6 hours.At least not all of them.
Also use synthetic oil.It flows much better and quicker at even way lower temps than dino crap.
Anyway cars sit at dealers without starting or being driven or in factory compounds for months with no ill effects.
And taking off your wheels and putting your car on blocks for a few months is plain a waste of time.Cars have sat for years on their suspensions and been fine.
But hey if you want to get all anal and weird and start to believe this voodoo winter storage crap thats up to you.
All I do is put in some fuel stabilizer,fill tank.Sometimes overair tires just a bit and was starting the car and letting it run for hour or so every month but lately just take out batteries and leave them to spring.


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