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gr2s vs. agx on 1g #182551
May 06, 2004 10:30 pm UTC
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Trevor Yu Offline OP
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I hope no one beats me up over this topic, but no one seems to have the answers for my questions.

I'm looking to replace my shocks. Are Kyb GR2s close to stock dampening, or are they a fair bit stiffer? I want something pretty stiff, but I will be doing only my fronts at this time...(money is a factor). Oh yeah, I'll be installing them myself.

Is it a big mistake to buy front AGXs only and install them? I will be doing a considerable amount of autocrosses next year (a few this year, but I need to build the car up a bit first) and the car will possibly make it to some track events. I have stock shocks and springs all around. Front shocks are toast.

I have gr2s on our corolla and to tell you the truth, they aren't stiff enough for me. Maybe they are conservatively valved for people that only want a 'spirited ride' :rolleyes:

Hopefully someone has some answers for me!

Cheers
Trevor

edit: yes I do know that there are other topics on this and that some people feel that the AGXs are too stiff. I need some info on the GR2s and on how either shock would work together with the stock springs and later some lowering springs or coilovers.


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Re: gr2s vs. agx on 1g #182552
May 06, 2004 11:27 pm UTC
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gr-2s are basically stock. If you plan on lowering your car at all I would deffinately go for the agx. AGX are adjustable so you can make it "smother" if you want(still stiffer than stock).


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Re: gr2s vs. agx on 1g #182553
May 07, 2004 01:24 am UTC
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Originally posted by Trevor Yu:
I have gr2s on our corolla and to tell you the truth, they aren't stiff enough for me. Maybe they are conservatively valved for people that only want a 'spirited ride' :rolleyes:

Hopefully someone has some answers for me!
I think you answered your own question.


Now, I'll have all kinds of time to talk about DSMs, because I won't be busy fixing mine!
Re: gr2s vs. agx on 1g #182554
May 07, 2004 02:41 am UTC
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GR-2's are 15% firmer than stock

AGX's range from 95% up to 123% firmer than stock


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Re: gr2s vs. agx on 1g #182555
May 07, 2004 10:26 pm UTC
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Originally posted by Chris Clark:
GR-2's are 15% firmer than stock

AGX's range from 95% up to 123% firmer than stock
Thanks Chris!! That is EXACTLY what I wanted!!!!

Cheers
Trevor


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Re: gr2s vs. agx on 1g #182556
May 07, 2004 10:42 pm UTC
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Originally posted by Steve Kinnaird:
I think you answered your own question.
The problem with that approach is that corollas and talons are totally different cars. Some shock manufacturers valve them differently depending on the demographic that they are shooting for.

I just wanted to know if gr2s were similar between applications. :rolleyes:


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Re: gr2s vs. agx on 1g #182557
May 07, 2004 11:49 pm UTC
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True enough.

I would ASSume though, that the shock manufacturers would go after a demographic with a "level" of shock though (ie: GR2,AGX, etc..) and probably not vary them much from vehicle to vehicle.


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Re: gr2s vs. agx on 1g #182558
May 08, 2004 12:41 pm UTC
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Trevor Yu Offline OP
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Originally posted by Steve Kinnaird:
True enough.

I would ASSume though, that the shock manufacturers would go after a demographic with a "level" of shock though (ie: GR2,AGX, etc..) and probably not vary them much from vehicle to vehicle.
Heh... "ASSume" heh heh.

possibly...who knows.


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