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Help please - Car won't stay in second #185151
May 27, 2000 06:09 pm UTC
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Reza Dowlatshahi Offline OP
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I went racing today and now I can't keep my car in second. It goes into second fine, but as
soon as I release the clutch, it grinds and pops back out. Is my Synchro likely gone?
Do I need a full tranny rebuild? Does anyone know how much something like this costs?

Thanks,
Reza
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Re: Help please - Car won't stay in second #185152
May 27, 2000 07:15 pm UTC
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Ouch buddy [Linked Image]
powershifting huh
Thats my symptoms from cayuga last year. I ended up just buying a used tranny from JAP because a rebuild was a minimum of $1000 and the car would have been out for at least 3 weeks. With the used tranny, I just had it in for a day or two.

Marco fixed it afterwards for a spare for him, but he never told me what broke.

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Re: Help please - Car won't stay in second #185153
May 28, 2000 05:06 am UTC
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How much was the rebuilt tranny from JAP and how much did it cost to install?

Also, do you have a number for JAP?



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Re: Help please - Car won't stay in second #185154
May 28, 2000 12:52 pm UTC
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I paid $900 for the tranny and I put a new clutch in and lightened the flywheel for $1200 on top of that I think.
all I remember was...powershift=$2000 mistake [Linked Image]

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Re: Help please - Car won't stay in second #185155
May 28, 2000 03:41 pm UTC
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The weird thing is , 2nd and 4th share synchros. Why don't I have a problem with any other gears?

Could this be a worn shifter linkage or lever, or a busted one from me trying to shift fast and hard!!!


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Re: Help please - Car won't stay in second #185156
May 28, 2000 07:59 pm UTC
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I thought Marco had told we it wasn't the synchros after he fixed it...

Its the downtime that bothered me the most. Leaving my car anywhere for that long makes me nervous [Linked Image]

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Re: Help please - Car won't stay in second #185157
May 28, 2000 10:06 pm UTC
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Mark,

Was $900 the price for the transmission and install or junt transmission? And do you have a number for JAP?

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Re: Help please - Car won't stay in second #185158
May 28, 2000 11:56 pm UTC
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just the tranny...JAPAN AUTO PARTS
126 TYCOS DR
TORONTO, ON
M6B 1W8
(416) 783-8086
they sold me the tranny with the switches ;D

call around and you will see that no reputable tranny shop will even open a tranny for less than $1000 (at least thats what I found)

good luck!


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Re: Help please - Car won't stay in second #185159
May 29, 2000 12:04 am UTC
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Mark, did you ever find out from what car your tranny came from?

Re: Help please - Car won't stay in second #185160
May 29, 2000 12:49 am UTC
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Thank you. I willl call them tomorrow and will have someone out here look at my car as well.

Anyone know of a good transmission shop in Ottawa?



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Re: Help please - Car won't stay in second #185161
May 29, 2000 01:09 am UTC
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Michel. I emailed a guy in Japan, and he knew the tranny, and the fact that it came out of a Japan spec Galant ~1991 or so.

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Re: Help please - Car won't stay in second #185162
May 29, 2000 06:49 pm UTC
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No shop will rebuild a tranny for less than $1000. [Linked Image]

Famous last words.

Ok, well I should preface, that I went into MY tranny rebuild, from the opposite spectrum. Rather than pop in some used tranny, that had no known history, I chose to seek out the source of the problem. (mine was popping out of 1st, same symptoms though)

I knew that it could get expensive, but it might not be too bad. It would depend on finding the source of the problem, and counting on nothing else being broken.

Since (like yours) every other gear was just fine, (and had been driving fine for 3 months after 1st went south) I went ahead.

Answer: Worn bearings. Both sides of the shaft. Replaced the bearings, and it's been fine ever since.

I know Marco and Arnel were a little aprehensive going into it, but once the solution was determined, we all felt better. [Linked Image]

So, knowing this... see what Arnel says, before you drop the wad on a new/used tranny.

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Re: Help please - Car won't stay in second #185163
May 29, 2000 07:00 pm UTC
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AB, that is what the shop told me over the phone as well. Did your tranny have to be torn apart? How much was the final cost?

Thanks,
Reza

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Re: Help please - Car won't stay in second #185164
May 29, 2000 08:48 pm UTC
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Bummer...

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Re: Help please - Car won't stay in second #185165
May 29, 2000 09:03 pm UTC
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I wish I could remember... because in the end, they also put in an ACT 2600 while they had it apart.

The removal and teardown wasn't too bad though, as I recall. The bearings weren't cheap, but I was happy in the end. (which is the objective, right?) [Linked Image]

I'd say though, that you may want to be careful where you take it. Feel like a holiday in Toronto? [Linked Image]

No, really... knowing that these are a japanese design, that probably few shops have ever torn apart... I'd be looking for someone who has done the job already. ie: Arnel comes to mind...

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Re: Help please - Car won't stay in second #185166
June 02, 2000 04:28 pm UTC
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OK, the transmission is open and the shop tells me that a broken 1-2 shift fork damaged my second gear AND the synchros are all worn AND my clutch's friction material is burnt off. To do the Transmission overhaul would cost $2400-$3100

I called JAP, and they say they have a used tranny for $1550. And they have no refurbished ones and if they did , it would be $3000... WTF???

I thought rebuilt trannies were $900. What happened?

Help please?????

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