Hey guys, I got a question. I know that with a straight turbo conversion you can only run 7-8 psi due to the compression differences, but if you were to swap the pistons too could you run higher boost, or are there any other different internal components between the NT and TSI which lmit boost levels? Also how practical is this, and would it just be better/easier to swap the engine to a turbo? Thanks for all your help....I need boost!

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92 Talon esi...dreaming of boost.
"Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity."

If you have the money to swap the pistons you might as well buy a turbo engine with the turbo on it already. They go for about $1500 and you can sell your current engine after it's out. That way you can run the full boost after you get the ECU and intake hoses swapped.

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Michael Hamilton
http://www.ecanfix.com/~mdhamilton
1990 AWD Talon
ICQ: 2422195

Anyone know where I can find a reliable unabused turbo engine with not too many k on it? Anyone wanna sell me thiers

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92 Talon esi...dreaming of boost.
"Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity."

Just curious but don't you have to upgrade the fuel pump? Or do all talons share the same pump?

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91 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
My Attempt at a website

What about
waste gate,bov,ECU,injectors,fuel pump,boost control soliend, resistor pack, intercooler, injector rewiring,boost gauge,air filter housing with MAF sensor,
I'am sure i'm missing a few things
aren't all these parts required/different from the NT Talon to the Turbo Talon

Tony:
All those parts are available for cheap around here. I was only talking about the internals.

The new engine would come with the injectors, FPR, turbo, wastegate..

You would still need to find: Turbo ECU, intercooler, BOV, all piping. The stock fuel pump will keep up with stock boost but will not handle 15psi boost.

The stock MAS will work in the new aircan. You actually prevent fuel cut by using the NT MAS.

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Michael Hamilton
http://www.ecanfix.com/~mdhamilton
1990 AWD Talon
ICQ: 2422195

I am contemplating on this as well...

Is that $1500 installed/Swapped or just the engine?

So If I get a turbo engine installed, and a matching ecu (same year or no?), and I have all the pipes, BOV, intercooler, Fuel Pump, Is there anything missing?
Will I need to do a lot or rewiring?
(complex or a couple of wires?)


But one problem is who is going to buy my used NT engine?
It is healthy but still a NT...



[This message has been edited by Solomon Lee (edited March 31, 2001).]

Hey!

I don't think you'd be having problems selling your N/T Engine.

I'm not saying I'm puttinmg dibs on it now but I'd be "Potentially Interested" if I'd see a N/T motor on the market.

BTW; How many klicks on this perticular engine??? Have a compression check done before you pull it out. That info could be interesting to the future buyer.

Ghislain.

Allow me to introduce a little question here... Would it potentially be less expensive just to sell your current dsm and get a tsi? I've had that thought. Just sell mine off (should get several thousands due to low km) and just buy a "not too old" tsi?

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'92 Talon NT Red
Still a lot of fun

Terence,

That 'would' be the cheaper way. But for some of us (well, IMHO) that got lucky, itll be hard to sell a car, especially if you've got a good deal (no rust, 1st owner, etc.) Plus its cheaper on insurance.

Speaking of insurance,

If you did a Turbo swap, and u got into an accident, would the insurance still cover that?

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A rare breed of automobile...to be enjoyed by a Fortunate few
...but not ME!

threestardiamond@hotmail.com

Most TSi owners say the same thing, why not sell and buy a TSi?

Well, for one thing, your car could be in EXCELLENT shape, and you have receipts to show things like struts, tires, brakes, etc... have actually been done. When you buy a TSi, you are taking the GOOD chance of buying a car that was bagged for at least half it's life.

Another thing is sentimental value. Maybe it was your first car, kinda like my Laser No matter what happens, I think I'll have that one for a good 10 years.

As for the insurance, it would probably depend on your policy. BUT if you were at fault, and they found out you turbo-charged your car then they would probably take you off the policy and you'd be stuck paying for both cars AND any injuries...

But, on the plus side, insurance is a LOT cheaper on a NT. The chick on the phone told me when I went to insure my Talon that it "better not be that all-wheel-drive one".

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Trevor
90 Laser RS 1.8L "Shauna"
"I almost beat the bicyclist!!"

90 Talon 2.0L NT
"Leaks more oil than a rusted Russian oil tanker"
Lost to a CRX. Please light it on fire and put it out of its misery!

It's no different than putting a supercharger on a Mustang. How many of those do you think are reported?

Same with civic turbo kits.

Well, yes, if you had a non-turbo talon and you want to switch to a talon that may be an option.
mine is a four door sedan...
find me one w/ turbo and I'll take that route anytime.

I agree with trevor. Plus, i want a sleeper. So who would expect that a 4dr sedan would whip their ass??

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A rare breed of automobile...to be enjoyed by a Fortunate few
...but not ME!

threestardiamond@hotmail.com

Hey. I have been wanting to "boost" my car also. Does anyone have a complete list of what it takes for converting? I have a 90 and I have read that they have a different ecu than 91-94's, is that true?? Is there anyone out there who has actually completed this?? good results?

Matt

Matt - Yes, the 90 ECU is different than the 91-94. When you do the turbo swap though, you'll probably change the ECU anyways..



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Trevor
90 Laser RS 1.8L "Shauna"
"I almost beat the bicyclist!!"

90 Talon 2.0L NT
"Leaks more oil than a rusted Russian oil tanker"
Lost to a CRX. Please light it on fire and put it out of its misery!