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4637 to 420a swap #204332
November 09, 2002 03:36 am UTC November 09, 2002 03:36 am UTC
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Matthew_Howe Offline OP
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I have just bought a 90 Laser with the 1.8 and was wondering if anyone has ever swaped in a 420a.

Thanks Matt

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Re: 4637 to 420a swap #204333
November 09, 2002 04:12 am UTC November 09, 2002 04:12 am UTC
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as anything else it is not theoratically impossible but that is a DIFFERENT engine.

it sits in completely differently. the tranny and engine sides are on the opposite sides. Your engine is mitsu 420A is chrysler.

makes it NOT WORTH IT AT ALL.
Re: 4637 to 420a swap #204334
November 09, 2002 07:15 am UTC November 09, 2002 07:15 am UTC
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You might have better luck stuffin' in a 4G63...I think the short block is almost identical...

It's not a Talon, it's a Talonol...
And now it's in the garage with a connecting rod sticking out...
Re: 4637 to 420a swap #204335
November 09, 2002 01:00 pm UTC November 09, 2002 01:00 pm UTC
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Will the 4g63 bolt up to the 1.8ls tranny?He will probbaly need a 2l ecu as well. Just go for the turbo motor wink

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Re: 4637 to 420a swap #204336
November 09, 2002 02:34 pm UTC November 09, 2002 02:34 pm UTC
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Originally posted by Bart Cieslikiewicz:
You might have better luck stuffin' in a 4G63...I think the short block is almost identical...
If you check the block casting number, you'll find its probly stamped 4G63 wink

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Re: 4637 to 420a swap #204337
November 09, 2002 04:29 pm UTC November 09, 2002 04:29 pm UTC
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Originally posted by JOSE VEIGA:
Will the 4g63 bolt up to the 1.8ls tranny?He will probbaly need a 2l ecu as well. Just go for the turbo motor wink
I think the tranny might bolt up, however its purpose was to transfer 90 +- hp, not 200...ecu is an obvious upgrade and as well the harness might need to be spliced or replaced...

It's not a Talon, it's a Talonol...
And now it's in the garage with a connecting rod sticking out...
Re: 4637 to 420a swap #204338
November 09, 2002 04:53 pm UTC November 09, 2002 04:53 pm UTC
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There is a Thread in the DSMTALK.com about that. Couple of people have done it in the past.

I think the engine code could be 4G37(or is it 4G63??) anyway most likely the tranny bolts up. Both there is no way on earth it can withstand a turbo engine's torque. Your wiring a VERY different too. So it is not only the ECU biut some wiring.

Just go to DSMTalk.com and you'll get your answer.

Amin
Re: 4637 to 420a swap #204339
November 09, 2002 05:46 pm UTC November 09, 2002 05:46 pm UTC
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4G37 -> 4G63 would be much easier I'm sure. More worthwhile too!

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Re: 4637 to 420a swap #204340
November 09, 2002 10:15 pm UTC November 09, 2002 10:15 pm UTC
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4g37 to 420a .... Why :rolleyes:

It's a POS neon engine and just like all other Chrysler 4 cylinder engines, they blow head gaskets all the time.

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Re: 4637 to 420a swap #204341
November 10, 2002 05:32 am UTC November 10, 2002 05:32 am UTC
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Originally posted by Amin Ahmadi:
There is a Thread in the DSMTALK.com about that. Couple of people have done it in the past.

I think the engine code could be 4G37(or is it 4G63??) anyway most likely the tranny bolts up. Both there is no way on earth it can withstand a turbo engine's torque. Your wiring a VERY different too. So it is not only the ECU biut some wiring.

Just go to DSMTalk.com and you'll get your answer.

Amin
U basically repeated what I said...

It's not a Talon, it's a Talonol...
And now it's in the garage with a connecting rod sticking out...
Re: 4637 to 420a swap #204342
November 10, 2002 06:10 am UTC November 10, 2002 06:10 am UTC
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sorry Bart confused confused confused
Re: 4637 to 420a swap #204343
November 10, 2002 05:59 pm UTC November 10, 2002 05:59 pm UTC
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The tranny in the 1.8L NT is the same as the tranny in the 2.0L NT (At least for the auto's). I had both - so I checked the numbers on the firewall awhile ago...
Re: 4637 to 420a swap #204344
November 12, 2002 02:36 am UTC November 12, 2002 02:36 am UTC
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Do any of the engine shops in Toronto import the 4G37T engines that were in the early 90's lancers? That would fit perfectly.
Re: 4637 to 420a swap #204345
November 15, 2002 04:14 am UTC November 15, 2002 04:14 am UTC
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Thanks for the input, I picked up the car for $200 and just wanted to see what can be done. I forgot that the 420a was not a mitsu motor, and yes a 4G63 would bolt right in. I have a 94 TSi AWD that I solo but will be taking a year off to learn how smooth up my lines while I rebuild my 94. This laser has not one option but A/C so I figure it should have some turn in once I put the 225/50-16 R compund tires on smile

Thanks Matt

Thanks Matt

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05 Sierra 2500HD
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