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TSi without turbo #204346 November 10, 2002 08:50 am UTC November 10, 2002 08:50 am UTC
Joined: Jul 2002 Posts: 26 Edmonton J Jon Rooney OP Member
Jon Rooney OP Member J Joined: Jul 2002 Posts: 26 Edmonton	I was wondering about the amount of horsepower a TSi engine would output without a turbo. I know the non-turbo and turbo engines are different, so wouldn't it be over the 140hp(i think) that the non-turbos run?

Re: TSi without turbo #204347 November 10, 2002 09:05 am UTC November 10, 2002 09:05 am UTC
Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 369 Victoria B.C. Wade Carlson Member
Wade Carlson Member Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 369 Victoria B.C.	its pretty low i remember when i first got my laser the turbo was blown and it was SLOW the turbo engines coem with low compression pistons etc. so they aren't meant to be run NA i am guessing somewhere around 110 becasue of the intake and exhaust restriction if u leave a seized turbo on it just a guess though

Re: TSi without turbo #204348 November 12, 2002 11:54 pm UTC November 12, 2002 11:54 pm UTC
Joined: Jul 2002 Posts: 26 Edmonton J Jon Rooney OP Member
Jon Rooney OP Member J Joined: Jul 2002 Posts: 26 Edmonton	Does anyone know the exact HP specs?

Re: TSi without turbo #204349 November 13, 2002 06:06 am UTC November 13, 2002 06:06 am UTC
Joined: Mar 2001 Posts: 1,041 Toronto Bart Cieslikiewicz A$$ man
Bart Cieslikiewicz A$$ man Joined: Mar 2001 Posts: 1,041 Toronto	I don't think anyone actually bothered to take the turbo off, put on an ex. manifold of an nt, change the maf, and intake, and ecu just to see what their engine will produce without the turbo... It's not a Talon, it's a Talonol... And now it's in the garage with a connecting rod sticking out...

Re: TSi without turbo #204350 November 13, 2002 03:08 pm UTC November 13, 2002 03:08 pm UTC
Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 3,178 Hamilton A Amin Ahmadi Insane Member
Amin Ahmadi Insane Member A Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 3,178 Hamilton	Quote Originally posted by Bart Cieslikiewicz: I don't think anyone actually bothered to take the turbo off, put on an ex. manifold of an nt, change the maf, and intake, and ecu just to see what their engine will produce without the turbo... Hehe that's true. But one fellow in Ottawa was Turboing his galant and he had the Turbo engine in there but no turbo and the NT ex. manifold. But I seriously doubt if he ever Dynod that thing. Amin

Re: TSi without turbo #204351 November 13, 2002 06:26 pm UTC November 13, 2002 06:26 pm UTC
Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 1,986 North of T.O. L Len Randall Serious Member
Len Randall Serious Member L Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 1,986 North of T.O.	its slow...I pulled the wastegate actuator off one day just to see, and it was slow. '92 Talon TSi AWD.

Re: TSi without turbo #204352 November 14, 2002 01:45 pm UTC November 14, 2002 01:45 pm UTC
Joined: May 2001 Posts: 874 Toronto W Wesley Burke Member
Wesley Burke Member W Joined: May 2001 Posts: 874 Toronto	It's still pretty easily drivable. You loose some low end torque but when I had a dead turbo on my car I couldn't really tell unless I really wanted some power. I stay out of boost 99% of the time anyway. 2006 Jetta 1999 Ultra 150 18' Baja

Re: TSi without turbo #204353 November 25, 2002 01:28 am UTC November 25, 2002 01:28 am UTC
Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 48 Vancouver,B.C.,Canada T Trask Nattrass Member
Trask Nattrass Member T Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 48 Vancouver,B.C.,Canada	If the Talon non turbo TSi is like the Mitsubishi GS then it's 130Hp -Trunks0 1990 Mitsubishi Eclipse GS -Current goal: New tires

Re: TSi without turbo #204354 November 25, 2002 02:13 am UTC November 25, 2002 02:13 am UTC
Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 3,178 Hamilton A Amin Ahmadi Insane Member
Amin Ahmadi Insane Member A Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 3,178 Hamilton	Trask, did you just wake up??? the engines are different.

Re: TSi without turbo #204355 November 25, 2002 05:51 pm UTC November 25, 2002 05:51 pm UTC
Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 48 Vancouver,B.C.,Canada T Trask Nattrass Member
Trask Nattrass Member T Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 48 Vancouver,B.C.,Canada	looks at what he wrote...........oops -Trunks0 1990 Mitsubishi Eclipse GS -Current goal: New tires

Re: TSi without turbo #204356 November 27, 2002 01:58 pm UTC November 27, 2002 01:58 pm UTC
Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 1,454 toronto JOSE VEIGA Member
JOSE VEIGA Member Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 1,454 toronto	When my wastegate actuator fell off and it kept falling off for about a week bcause the was no pin there. The car was hardly driveable and just made noise after 3500 it was terrible.The low compression is not streetable without a turbo. 1997 ram air trans am former DSM owner http://www.angelfire.com/extreme4/copper90tsiawd/index.html

Re: TSi without turbo #204357 November 27, 2002 02:00 pm UTC November 27, 2002 02:00 pm UTC
Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 1,454 toronto JOSE VEIGA Member
JOSE VEIGA Member Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 1,454 toronto	Quote Originally posted by JOSE VEIGA: When my wastegate actuator fell off and it kept falling off for about a week because there was no pin there. The car was hardly driveable and just made noise after 3500 it was terrible.The low compression is not streetable without a turbo. 1997 ram air trans am former DSM owner http://www.angelfire.com/extreme4/copper90tsiawd/index.html

Re: TSi without turbo #204358 November 28, 2002 12:12 am UTC November 28, 2002 12:12 am UTC
Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 3,178 Hamilton A Amin Ahmadi Insane Member
Amin Ahmadi Insane Member A Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 3,178 Hamilton	Quote Originally posted by JOSE VEIGA: When my wastegate actuator fell off and it kept falling off for about a week bcause the was no pin there. The car was hardly driveable and just made noise after 3500 it was terrible.The low compression is not streetable without a turbo. it is not the compression it is the damn restricted intake and half blocked exhaust that makes the "turbo " engine not drivable Amin

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