tried doing a search in this but i keep getting a link to different articles and stuff.

anyway i'm considering just dropping a turbo motor into my n/a and wondering who's the best to tackle this.

just need the motor plus install and maybe some tuning. i have everything else (maybe need a downpipe)necessary.

thanks for the space.

Magnus Motorsports

Metalexmotor works MAYBE?!


make sure they know what they are doing!

ECU and MAS need to be changed too.

hay u could go to pregressive racing my friend did a swap in his CRX and they did i killer job cleand his engin bay so it looked like new and panted the vavle cover the same the car with out being asked...
they looked in to the swap for me i got a 92 n/t they told me $5000 but thats everything front mounted intercooler, BOV all the costome pipeing trany and cluch but if u dont need all that it will be cheap for you..
P.S
i heard u can put like a 97 turbo on one of our motors and not lower compresion because it is a small turbo.. anyone know if that is true???
anyway the site is http://www.progressiveracing.com/main.htm

Chris were ever you go ad if you are satisfied with the work, please tell me i am doing the same thing as you

maybe i'll just get my mech to do the install and have a shop tune.

he installed a n/a motor for $1600 inc.

we'll see.

your driveway! my time!

how is that?!

if you're really serious i'll just bolt the turbo and stuff and forget about the turbo motor.

i'll make it worth your while --->$$$

let me know

I was kind of seriuos,


if I were you I would have just bolt on the turbo and run it with the NT motor. even pushing it

what is the worst that could happen?
the motor gives? THEN change to a turbo block.
why frack with it when it is fine.

I don't want to "make money" out of it either.

basically a help to you for doing it if you have got a the space.

to be honest if I had a driveway I would have called you over for the weekend to get it done. but anyhow if you like PM me.

AMin

Here comes some more stupid questions brought to you by the farthest from a mechanic...Josh Stevenson!!!!!!
I dont know if i herd this correct but chris did you say you were just going to bolt on a turbo to a NT engine? What other parts must go with this?

N/A and turbo engines are the same thing pretty much. Compression is higher in the N/A otherwise its close to same. I know few guys running a N/A engine in AWD TSI Talons and they run fine. Cant boost it as high as a turbo engine but who cares. If it pops get a turbo engine.

BTW www.metalexmotorworx.com did my N/A car swap to turbo 4g63t and its a 400 or So HP car

josh-i did most of my homework and collected most of the parts i need except a ecu

amin-i live in an apartment but my spot is in the corner and i got a lot of space to fool around there.

I am doing my home work on my own car,

1992 NT>Turbo

if you are to do it, in my opinion YOU MUST do the electrical parts first and then move to installing the actual turbo.


one thing is unque about 92 Galants and that is 144 HP (vs. 135 in NT DSMs). pretty impressive.

my "would be" plan if I was to do one:
STAGE 1:
install the ECU
then injectors and the resistor pack
then MAS
EMission control lines if desired.

DEBUG this.

LEVELL seems easy but it is the hardest part. could be done in a weekend.

STAGE2:
Turbo and oil lines and what not.
requires removal of the AC FAN or replacement of it.
at least,Xcase should be removed to get to oil pan.


LEVEL: Easy, straight forward.


STAGE 3:
Intecooler

LEVEL: custom job all around, UNLESS there VR4 parts handy.


STAGE4:
Oil Cooler for the engine

LEVEL: easier custom job.

that's pretty much what i had in mind
i even have a 2 1/4" i/c piping custom made for a vr4 and the i/c.

tony vaz actually told me to do the electrical 1st too.

just need an ecu

ques:how benefical will a super-afc be with this set up?

IMHO s-afc at this point is pointless unless you want to keep your stock ECU and then there is no Knock monitoring and a wring fuel map.

So with those parts Amin how much boost could you run, and how much would that increase your horse?

what parts?!

just waiting for the ecu and a 2g mas air sensor filter adapter and i should be able to complete the "1st stage".

p.s. add knock sensor

Sorry amin it was a little late when i wrote that. After all the stages, and the conversion is complete, is it true you could only run about 8 psi? and how much horse would that bring you up to?

what year is your car?!
isn't it 1992?


Josh,
some say up to 17 PSi, you can make "enough" HP. it needs proper supporting bits and pieces. LIKE A TURBO CAR

If you want Chris make the trip to my place with Amin and whomever and we can put it on in about 4-7 hours, depends on the sh!t that get in the way. Bring 2 people with you if possible and make sure you have it all. I mean ALL, or else your car won't run. All bolts, gaskets and wiring.

I've done the engine conversion before and I am actually doing a turbo conversion in my garage right now too. Take a look. http://www.ca.dsm.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=20;t=000214

it's a 91 awd

sounds like a plan. 1st lemme grab an ecu, mani gasket etc. prolly get everything in a week or three.

where the heck is aurora??

amin-->are you down?

I do not want too much speed, considering i really have no were to use it, i just dont want to be NT anymore!! But 17 is good enough for me! I mean thats still a hell of alot, i guess you just have to do it correct. But i am really serious about this. So on this site how long do you think it will take me to collect the parts. Would you be willingto help me search Amin and whenyou find a good deal tell me and i buy it. Because knowing me i would just buy the first thing i see and it be missing peices and in this case maybe even little things like nuts and bolts which arent sold at a canadian tire!!
Money is not a problem but i am willing to find parts right now and if i could get them in like 2-3 weeks and have it turbo by then i would be sooo happy!
What do you think?

It's North of Richmond Hill. Yonge Street runs right through it.
About an hour or so from you in bramalea.

that's cool tim

what's your next step in your convo?

Chris,
I am up for it.

I thought your car might have a knock sensor already, nevermind.


find the parts fast, I have only less than a month to screw around. once the school starts I am off the scene! (fracking 3rd year is no joke )


Josh, you have to do your homework yet.

hahaha how bout i cheat off u!!
What yet do i need to know? Correct me if i am wrong isn't it a list of parts i need to purchase and someone or some pleace to install? No offense sorry just a little confused here. GO FIGURE

i'll let you guys know as soon as i get all misc parts ready.

throw in some items at me that i'll prolly overlook so i'm not like " , i forgot that piece!"

hey guys i'm going to go the get a new motor route in bout a few weeks time.

my mech is going to get a motor for $1800 and throw it in for me.

just want to know what "little" parts i need?

i picked up an exhaust mani gasket yesterday, gonna need some silicone couplings and an oil pan.

any ideas?

you only need a downpipe

the rest comes with the engine

also a resistor pack, make sure you connect that or you will fry something.

check and see if you can use TSi AWD flywheel and clutch,

tell him not to frack with the exhaust manifold. But if you can somehow check for intake leak you might save yourself alot of hassle,


If it is a JDM with cyclone or any JDM with no EGR you should think about what you may wanna do. If you are not planning to pass emission then it is fine. else think about a US Spec(Canadian) Intake. I would personally won't bother with it and put the engine with whatever intake it came with.

i picked up a downpipe from a talon.
so if it doesn't fit i'll get him to cut off whatever or add on what needs to be done.

got a resistor pack.

i guess i should be good to go.

just need an ecu.

Josh,

if you are serious and ready for it buy the parts that Chris has gathered.

Well Amin i will be for seing which routei will be going on monday. A friend of mine in the T.O area has gone to a shop that has thousands of engines in stock, mostly ricer type R's and V-tec's, but they have mitsu. Engines... All the engines are VERY low in cost. So i will be going to check out the shop.
If i do decide to go through with this, Amin i think it is near you, and if you wouldnt mind possibly meeting me there one day and seing if they are selling them cheap for a reason!
Plus i would like to see what else i would need.

Let me know

OK,
I am close to you anyways, I pass through burlington on Daily Basis dude!

Ohhh ok perfect!
I will let you know by monday. I would just dont a conversion on my outstanding enging but im going through oil like no tomarrow and it seems to be dissapearing in thin air, and ohhh this engine sucks!
So i gonna try and go the new engine route!!

hey josh, how much are the 4g63t motors anyway?

and does this guy do installs too?

i think 1000 or so, and not too sure about the intallation man, but i will get back to you

1G! wow, let me know for sure and possibly a phone #.

are you grabbing a motor off this guy?

and if so who's going to do the install?

sorry for all the ques.

Hey man look atmy posts and how many questions i ask... Amin is like my himan resource/ dictionary!
Ummm i trying to get this phone number off this guy at work. If i do go this route i will be buying one off him and try and find someone nice enough on the DSM to help (cheaper) But i also recieved an e-mail from someone who lives in Burlington who is a DSM member and he said he would be more the happy to do a conversion with me!! So i still waiting on both options

Guys, I would come out and help out any DSMer with there project but I'm in the mists of building a garage and all my weekends are all booked up from now till the end of time. :rolleyes: .
Count on your car being down a few days because it doesn't matter how much preperatition your do there is always some part that is missing or something else that just dosen't go your way.
Good Luck.

P.S. Amin you can come by this weekend and pick up the engine stand if you want.