It looks interesting.

http://www.sunoco.ca/default.aspx?ID=2526#

Yea, I got one. Just been filling up the tank a few times now and have already surpast 3500 points.

Me too, I got it around two weeks ago its definitely a must have for us dsmers since most of us only 94.

It's too bad they're getting rid of the CAA program. I know Sunoco has paid for my membership the last two years.

Anything is better than nothing I suppose!

I picked one up a few days ago too. Might as well, I had been holding off of getting the next 'fill my wallet' card, but we all show up to Sunoco

So 20 points/litre of 94, typical fill is 50L (1000 pts).
10,000 points (500L) gets you $10 (~10L, though not really) free gas. Still, as was pointed out - better than nothing.

I got one of these a while ago. London was the first place in Ontario to have them! So whenever I used to get gas anywhere else the attendants would get confused haha.

I got mine two weeks back, 4435 already.... yay me.

It's a good program anyway.

I'm sad to see the CAA program go, but you can double-dip with your CAA card till the end of this year. So swipe both CAA and Sunoco points card the next time you fill up.

Im up to 8,000 pts woohoo

10,900 and I refused to use the $10.00 free gas option. I just collect the points to the point I get a free tank.

About 14,000 here, I'll do the same and save them for when I either am short on cash, or can get a whole tank.

13,000. i'm saving for a tank, too.

The way gas prices are going, a free tank in an emergency situation...ie..short of cash, would be the way to do it.

Remember that the higher gas prices go though, the more points you'll need to get a free tank.

We don't have Sunco here in Alberta but I we do have CAA. I use their CAA Mastercard on everything and collect rewards that way. Last year, it cost me $1.21 to renew my membership. Just a thought if some of you guys like renewing CAA for free.

well i won 150000 points what does that entitle me to?

10,000 points is the minimum and you can get $10 worth of gas from 10,000 points.

I've got 17,000 points, and I've already bought a car wash with 6000 of my points!

I'm also keeping them for a free tank of gas

By minimum I meant its the minimum if you want to get gas,under 10,000 you can only get car washes.

i have 30100pts....yeahhhhhhhhhhhhh

Can you buy performance clutches with those points?

no, just 94 octane so i can smoke your but.
That the truth.

FYI 500hp cars with 1000cc inj are very bad on gas.

They shouldn't be any worse on gas than a car with 450s if you know how to tune closed loop.

I have 1000cc injectors and my cars gone mid-11's in the 1/4 mile. I'm trapping over 120MPH each run. Hmmmm does anyone want to take a guess at what a full weight 1G AWD would be making in horsepower? I can garantee it will be more then yours. And if you are so sure with yourself, I propose we strap our cars on the dyno one after the other. Next spring, you and I head to Magnus, bring some witnesses and I'll try not to embarass you. Three pulls, all turbo, no nitrous. Loser pays for the others bill. That's how sure I am.

I should admit my gas milage is pretty much on par with a stock TSi so I guess it HAS to be under 200 crank HP.

i have 4 slips from the track and dozens of witnesses and videos...of my sickkk car PULLING 124MPH+++++.

So, be vary carefull who you run your mouth to, i guarntee my car had more hp more tq and i will some you in the show.
GUARNTEED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

so stop talking now.

before you get banned.

Yeah...thats what i thought.

Not an FYI.
Lol, probably sh!t tuning as everyone else said.

I'll put my money on Tim still.
What do you run in the 1/4 mile Ben with yo sickkk ass talon?

I will not reveal all my secrets, that would be dumb.
What i can tell you i got 500hp and 465tq with 25lbs boost and it was 39degc it was the hottest day of the summer.
I have it all on tape.
I coulda have kept going but i stopped.
25lbs is nothing to a fully balanced blueprinted 2.3lstroker
People are haton on me cause i built the motor myself, and i did the bodykit myself...i built this whole car myself...and you know what?
I get full props around here, everyone knows that sickkk red talon...
I get disrespect from stupid people on this board, and i dont know why?
I think its plain and simple.
JEALOUS HATERS!!!
FYI i dont have NOS i have NEVER needed it, its what cheaters use.
ive got 35000 plus, just in parts, no labour.
The only thin i ever payed for was a wheel alignment.
Thats the truth.

You call having a timeslip a secret, haha your a funny guy. You probably have a sh!t e/t to go with that don't you ? I bet you do, lol. I don't really care how much HP you have, but I'll ask you the same question I have asked others, how about some 16g beatings ?
I think the only thing I go to the shop for is an alignment too, and so does everyone else you mouth off to. We all build our own sh!t as well, but you come off like some weirdo about it, like your the only one who has built a DSM.
$35,000 in parts!! LOL
I think I have way less than that in parts, obviously no cost in labour cuz I build my own sh!t, and I think my car would hand you your ass on a plater.
Now thats the TRUTH!

OH YEAH....RIGHT...your soo cool.
I can get 500hp not even trying, but its sh!t tune, and i dont know what im doing.?
Are you crazy?, or just dumb?
hahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaah

Its funny how your tryin to hate on me, but i know my car is a A++ car all the way around.

SHOW and POWER and ORIGINALITY, everything.

So, i will say it again, bring it...

Pls, i have 2 drawrs full of reciepts, 35000 plus in parts alone....sine i bought the car.
SO, EAT A BIG FAT ONE. NO labour

a 16g is a pussy turbo, END OF STORY.
mine is 3 times the size.
my compressor is so big it hits the block.

AHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

16g haahahahahahahahahah

Hehe, your right 16g is a puny turbo. As I said, how bout some 16g beatings ??
I'm not dumb, but I am crazy!
You can eat a big fat one.
I'll be smokin a big fat one.
16g will hand it to you anyday, period.
You probably run 13's with your 124MPH traps, thats why your embarrased to tell your E.T., right?
Don't go blow your headgasket now.

And to get back on topic....
$500 Ben.
Put your money where your mouth is and come to Cayuga this Saturday.

I could sure use $500 in Ultra 94 to get some more of those Sunoce Performance Points!

wow, i cant belive how much smack you talk.
But thats all you can do.

My car is in storage for the winter since sat.PERIOD.

How much hp do you have again mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm? 350hahahaah
tops
i have 500hp min.
Dont be a hater cause my car can beat you in power and in show.ok
Cause your true colours are showing...
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ahahahahahahahah
I wouldnt waste my time on anycar with a 16g, for you see , i had a 16g and i know how NOT fast it actually is.
I WILL NEVER TELL MY SECRETS....WHEN I WASTE YOU IN THE SPRING, YOU WILL LOSE YOUR CAR AND ALL YOUR MONEY, SO STOP HATEN ON ME AND SHUT YOUR MOUTH.
PCE LOSER.

LOL, scared thought so.
I would steal you money , as I said the 16g would make a true fool out of you.
First no time slip, no ET, now the car's in storage.
Blah blah all talk.
$1000 come this Saturday to Cayuga, I'll be there and so will others.
Let me steal yo money buoy!
You said bring it, I am bringin it, and now you back off.
I thought so, YOUR true colors have SHOWN, lol.

124MPH with your FWD? Good for you. Back in my FWD days (which I ditched because FWD is absolutely brutal), I was trapping 114-117MPH on a 16G. You are telling me that I need to spend another $32,000 to get it to go another 7MPH faster in the 1/4 mile? Ha.

Listen, put your money where your mouth is. Go beat Reza, win his money and then strap your car to the dyno with me for free. Hell, you are FWD and I'm AWD, you have a massive advantage WHP wise.

So big bad turbo guy, accept one of these challenges and see how well your 124MPH car actually runs against the little pea shooter turbo that Reza runs or my massively under funded car. I'll admit it, I have less then $5000 in mods done, so what do you have to be scared of?

FWD!!!!
Are you serious!
No wonder the guy is all talk, probably doesn't even run low 13's, hehe.
Incredible, a FWD guy trapping 124MPH, talking all that, lol.

And the guy has blown 27 clutches. How you blow 27 clutches in a FWD is beyond me.

Ben, I know nothing about you but by the way your coming off in this thread you sound like one of my family members boses. He has a new Mustang Shelby Cobra & apparently he can run 10's with it (though he has never been to the track with it & professional car test drivers only run high 12's in it)

What's with all the big secrets about you "magical" setup? Why are you so afraid to list what your mods are? Most people are more then happy to share their mods when producing that kind of power. Do you have a dyno sheet or a log of the pulls?

Whats the big secret about your ET & what kind of setup do you run at the track?

You spent $35000 just on parts? I would be interested in seeing a list of all the parts your running or is that a big secret as well? I'm not hating on any of the 1g's at all (as I too have put way to much money into my 2g that I won't get back) but I'm curious why you would put $35000 worth of parts into a car that probably has a book value of $3000 if your luckey?

Edit: One other thing Ben that I hope you can clear up for me. You say you've owned a 500+ hp Talon for the past 7.5 years? Was curious why you posted about replacing the 14b you were running with a 16g, just last month & had questions about installing a Walbro 255 & the month before you were looking for a used 3" catback

Hes the baller of the dsm world..

I would bet a grand EACH on Tim G AND on Reza with his little 16g to beat him, if I thought the guy had anything more than two nickels to rub together....but I don't think he even has two brain cells to rub together....

Oh wait, maybe I am just jealous because I sold my talon.....I really want to be like some 18 year old retard that has spent 35 grand on 27 clutches in last couple years...

i have 2 cars.
i have a 90tsi fwd...
and i just bought a 94 laser awd.
i have my old 16g on my awd laser full3 exhaust maft eprom chip inj blah blah...
its fast.
NO WHERE NEAR AS FAST AS MY 90 TALON.
My car can beat a 600cc gsxr , and ive done it 3 times.

so u do the math.

i know how fast my car is and i dont need stupid haters that dont know what they are talkin about bring me down.
I LV MY CAR.
IT IS IN STORAGE.
but ill spank u in my awd laser, 16ged up....no problem, loser.

HONESTLY, I AM SO SICK OF THIS BORAD. All the people are jealous haters.
I have 2 sick turbo cars and i even turboed my gfs 91 honda civic hb.
her civic would probly beat 90% of you sh!t talkers.
her car weighs 1800lbs....does yours?

If a fwd limited slip tsi talon can beat a 600cc gsxr 3 times, 3 different ones and 2 witnesses.....you haters need to recongnize.

I have videos of my dyno pulls, i have video of my track runs at st thomas....
I think you should be banned.
Thats what i think.
Let start a poll.
Ban,Ban , Ban

FYI...
Im 26 yrs old...
I work at TMMC.

ANd i am going to college to become a Electircal Engineer....so whos the frack stupid one old man.

Like honestly, you are old and dying, and im maken 3 times what you do so shut your mouth before your dentures fall out!!!!!!!!

You're a failure.
We should have a poll to see how many members want to punch your face.

NICE ONE LOSER.....NOT

Hey ROB, threating me??????????

Not cool.

Im 6 2 man im 200lbs.....if you want to come punch me in the face.....let meet up.

I would love too see that bro.

That's funny, you were sitting there steaming for about five minutes. Glad I got a rise out of you.
Now that you have all this energy, why don't you go pull your transmission out again, bro?
That would be sweeeet...

Seriously though Ben, if you want to stop everyone "hatin" on you, stop posting like your an 18 year old kid. Your cars fast, great so post up a mod list, some pics, some logs, some dyno pulls, some track video's that you say you have, etc, etc. Telling everyone your cars stupied fast & there's is a POS will get you no were, no respect & probably banned from here.

Again, am curious what kind of setup (as far as boost, tires, suspension, etc) you run at the track & what kind of times you pull?

I know whats wrong with you Ben, I have seen a few like you:
SEVERE PMS SYNDROME
Grow up little girl, your 26.

sorry dork, my car is in storage. And i allready said that a million times.
I guess it went way over your little head. ohhhh im srry.

You have to have a iq of 50 to understand that...you must have 49 eh?
lol

workin as a fourm moderator must be chanllenging and high pay righttttttttttttt.
not.

First he talks how bad ass his car is and now is bragging about his size................HAHAHAHAHHAHHAA.

Honestly man, I feel sorry for you, really sorry for you. I wonder how people put up with you at your workplace or college????

P.S A civic hatchback beats down Reza's car or even Tim's!! Something just doesn't sound right about that. Oh.... I also feel sorry for your girlfriend as well!!!

26? 16 would correlate with your ability to spell.

Please stop with the Engineer BS also, your becoming a technician or technologist at College. Stop pawning it off like your getting your BEng.

Just because your daddy's little BenBen and he has a job you will never be able to have that allows him to pay for all your parts doesn't make you special.

Why not just post up some time slips and dyno sheets to shut everyone up if your so confident. Those wont reveal any of your secrets like someone already said.

You've got like 3 Grand in bets on you, why not take the car out and make some quick money if your so confident. I'm sure you'll have an excuse for everything.

I love messages boards :), please don't ban Ben so I can keep amused at work! I don't ever reply to these things but this is just to funny, if it's real it halarious, if its a joke, your still retarded for putting that much time into this.

I can't wait to see your siiiiccccckkkkk car at Conestoga in December when I start school again.

Oh and do you realize your real name is attached to everything you say? Your not anonymous on this board.

What a waste of my time.. reading this post from top to bottom.

Ben, enough, or you're outta here.
As said, stop posting like an 18 year old dipshit.

You know mods I think we need one of those little smilies, with the little bobble head eating popcorn.
Thats what I'm doing

Darrin, people are alwyas jealous....im a cool guy, i have lots of friends and i am smart.
But some of my friends in the past got jealous and are no longer my friends, do u know what i mean...?
I started on this board cause i needed with with my awd car...just cause ive been modding a fwd one for so long.
But now that i know what kind of lealous people you all are...and you cant give anyone props for anything....i dont need to prove sh!t, and i only care about people who care back.
i ask simple questions and someone always starts it not me!!

Reza as for you...i have a 16 g awd fully modded and its the SLOW car .

But in the spring i will be swaping engines, so i would be very very watchfull for me doing 11.mabye 10.9

I have 4 24.5 x 8.5 X 15 m@H drag slicks...thats almost 1000$ for the slicks and racing rims...

Y dont you just say nice car man....like wtf?
were you beatn as a child?

If you can provide some facts backing up all your mods we will give you props, for sure. However, you keep talking about how many mods you have done and keep mentioning 500HP over and over again. Provide some time slips, some dyno sheets and we will all give you respect.

Its like saying you have a lambo but you don't want to show us because we are jealous!

i have been going to conestoga for over a year so if youve never seen it, come look me up and say that bs to my face.I DARE YOU.

But like i said before for the 100000000 time, my car is in storage.

if you want to race for money race my awd car...then my gfs 1800lb civic hb turbo that i built and tuned for her.
shes 25.
shell race you stupid asses....in fact shes never lost.

Her car weighs 1800lbs so it power to weight.
work it out.
if your ower to weight is more then let me know, i bet its not.
4.9 is my power to weight ratio for my sickkk red talon.

my gf turbo civic is 8.1 power to weight.

Ben you have already been told by Andrew, SHUT UP.
Spell correctly, quit using webspeak and knock off the bench racing BS. I don't think there is one person on the board that is jealous of you.
You want to prove your fast, either take it to a dyno, or come out to the track with us.

In the spring I would be happy to go to the track with you. Would either be a close race, or the truth would come out.
As for getting "props" for your car, this isn't Cardomain, and well nobody has seen it either that I know of.

And now he's accusing me of bias, and telling ME to grow up, in private messages.



Two strikes Ben...

You are pathetic.

You buy prebuilt magnus motor and you think you have a fast car?
Get a grip.

I will stop now, and you will see me in the spring in my awd car with my 6 bolt motor in it, and we will see then.

I told you all before, i have nothing to prove. I know how fast my car is, and if you come to my town, ask around at some shops, and see if the crazy red talon is fast or not....come on i dare u.

More PMs...

That's three.

At your suggestion, see you in the spring Ben.

I AM in your town, where/when?
Fire me off a PM I want to come see this stuff.
Magnus didnt build my whole motor, they built the bottom end, I assembled the rest.
Hope to see you soon. Which shops do I need to ask at about your car Marken, Will at Point Zero, Rudy Held, Can Am ?
Hell fire me off a PM and I will come over and see it for my very own eyes, if your DSM's are all put away we will check out your GF's turbo civic...

In case Andy's pushed the button I will email the invite as well

Sunoco Performance Points----------------to bench racing.WOW

Anyways, this points card is a very good idea by Sunoco as they are the only ones who sell 94 octane. I had been waiting for one for a long time as all the other gas stations have one but they didn't.

Now also, I have been getting bad gas mileage since March when upgraded almost every bolt on. I have 850 cc, 255 HP walbro fuel pump and AFPR. In the beginning, I was getting about 140 miles a tank. Yeah thats terriable. When Darren tuned my car it started to give me a bit better, 180-190 miles a tank. I have brand new front O2 sensor and yes I am JEALOUS of Darren because he gets about 300-350 miles a tank!!!!!!!!!! What do you guys think it could be other then the tune or is it all about the tune?

P.S Using DSMLINK and AEM wideband to tune and also the car is parked for now as I am going full time to school now and can't afford it for now. In spring it will come out again.

Just reading over this thread and its hilarious so was this guy banned or what. I dont know what buddy was saying about his 1000cc injectors my car runs fic 750's and gas mileage is great when off boost. All you need is dsmlink to compensate for bigger injectors.

Wow, so you work at Toyota building cars for 50k a year...you're a millionaire. And college doesn't have an electrical engineering program, like someone below says, it's a technologist job, and guess what, you won't be making any more (if) you graduate from college in that program, you'll make the same as at Toyota.

Such a sad child, you should just shut up, my dog's name is Ben, and he's seriously embarrassed that you share his name.

Ben, if you only make 3 times what I do, I feel sorry for you...you wouldn't be able to afford 27 clutches on 3 times what I make, LOL. Thing is, I HAD my good years, and instead of spending my life savings on 27 clutches, I put some away for retirment, so I can afford to live on less than 1/3 of what you make..and I can still go to Germany two years in a row and have a CNC machining centre, an EDM, a surface grinder, sandblaster, air compressor, and a couple milling machines in my garage

I am old and dying, yes....but guess what....we are all going in the same direction...and if you are really 26 instead of your mental age of 16, then you just got 10 years closer to death also Meet you there

Well, considering he can still go to the board and read what we're saying...

The track is where WE brag Ben. I can't wait to see your "SIICKKKK" Talon in the spring. I'll be at Cayuga and St. Thomas next year, and I won't race you, but I'll be there to point and laugh as you get smoked by 1, 2, 4, 6, 8 other guys.

Then I'll be there to back the guys up when your mouth has run too far.

6' 2" 200lbs? Cool. You're bigger than me. But that can't stop 6-10 guys can it? Unless you're freeking Jet Li, or your Talon is a Transformer and shoots fireballs and flying clutches at us (Wait, maybe THAT'S where those 27 clutches have gone....)

So... I'm going to get me a Sonoco Card. I THINK that's what this thread was about.

Ben, no ones jeleous of you. No one even believes you have anything remotely fast. You come up with ficticious dyno numbers, bogus track times and non-existant mods list.

You are a tool and come spring, I'd gladly hand you your ass at the track and on the dyno.

You don't think I give "props" to those who deserve it? Reza, Kevin, Eric, Todd & many others on this board will tell you that I'm actually excited to see some real times and real dyno numbers but then again, you have to have a real car to have such values.

Meh, way to step up to the plate, big guy.

Tim, I love the signature at the bottom

For the last 2 pages, i thought i was reading dsmtooners.

Thanks for the amusement for the night .

Wow this post is something else? I'll be looking into the sunoco card. Hey Ben I work at TMMC never seen your car there, but I'm always up for a little dsm talk if you ever want, or when your not in school.

lol I am really enjoying reading this.

Please don't lock this thread mods, I really want to see where this goes.

Where are you from Ben?

Um guys, I do believe he was booted.

Not booted... he just said he didn't want to argue any more, and we'd all see in the spring...

...so I granted him his wish.

Banned until May.

Ya guy, sick yo! Im mad ballin yo in MY MAAAAAAAD SICK talon YO! maaaaaaaaad turbo yo! 10,000 horsepowers yo!

Wow I think we all know how big some peoples mouths are but I am amazed.

Have not seen DRAMA like that in a while..

As for the original topic, is there a list of the points trade in value? I know everytime I pay at the pump the clerk tells me I can redeem my points but im gonna hold off and let them acumulate.

I have over 35,000 points. Apparently I can get some stuff for that.

Holy craps, I wasn't expecting to see this thread to turn so retarted. Thanks Andrew and all mods for keeping this board clean
If I wanted to see more retarded threads, there are plenty of mad-tite-yo mahthangisbiggerthanyours boards out there.

Going back to the Sunoco Points... I am a bit dissapointed in not collecting CAA points. I am still collecting them now until they stop the program. Does anyone here collect CAA points through their credit card? How does it compare to just collecting CAA points through gas purchases?

The only thing I only look forward to with Sunoco points is winter-time car washes.

I'll drive down also, it would be fun racing that loser and see him blow another clutch lol.

This guy Benny, is still emailing us rapidfire CAPS LOCKing us to death.

Should we post some of them in the monkey barrel?

Ya post it and post up the dyno sheet.

You better get down on your knees Andy and beg for forgiveness.

What a moron, I could just picture his steaming right now and
not sleeping at nights.

I think we found Cap'n Bob a new sheep... *Laugh*

I think this guy may get his millionaire job, since he seems to have overcome a few basic laws of Physics.

I love his spelling of secretaries. I don't understand this guys mentality. Shut up and come to the dyno in the spring. I bet we could get an audience to watch.

I just love how he expects us to bow down to him as if he's the DSM King. I mean, if all you can think about is sending the board threatening and outrageous emails, and have the time to do it, you have WAY too much free time.

Ugh, the spring can't come fast enough. I want to come down and see this guy, then hopefully smoke his FWD ass with my 16G.

Ben Kalinowski DSM King??? from what I see and read its more like Ben King Keyboard Cowboy

Well, I suppose there's some boards where people COMPLAIN there's not enough 'trash-talking' and 'counter-top racing'. For some, it's the only way they can feel good about themselves, I guess.

I actually had a good time reading Reza's replies. Hilarious! "Bring it, bitch!" *Laugh*

Another 'feel good' thing I saw at Sears in the US was a new stainless steel 'tower' tool chest. With integrated digital clock, thermometer, etc... Stereo with sub and, get this, chrome 'rolla' 8-spoke wheels! "For the man that's not allowed to actually DO anything to his car..."