So the law cracked down on some frends of mine.
2 buddies went for a ride in the one guys 5.0L stang.
The owner was in the passenger seat, friend was driving, thinking about buying the car.
Took the car for a rip of cource he wanted to see what it would do, before buying it.
And just his luck a cop was sitting on the road he decided to test the car out.
I didnt find out how fast he was going but obviously 50+

So far all I know is, the one that was driving lost his licence for at least 1 year, and a fine for around $2000, with a court date. The car is being impounded for 1 week. The owner I dont beleive had any loss, except his car being impounded.

Shitty luck for both of them.
Just intime for that new law.

He could have obviously tested out the car without going that fast. But everyones an idiot here and there I guess.

Just thought I'd share that with you guys.


Mike

Lost his licence for a year, is that standard with this new law? I read that they already charged 29 people since the new law came into effect. Hopefully its mainly made up of soccer moms in their mini vans & middle aged men in their high $ luxery cars, so they can stop blaming us for everything.... (like that will happen)

I dont know if thats standard, but I was told it was going to be a minimum of 1 year.... I'll let you guys know after the court date

Dont see why people are in such an uproar about the 50km+ speeding rule, 50 over on any street or road is excessive.
Yes the 401 travels quick at times, and no I am not saying that I haven't exceeded the limit by more than 50+ ever, but now you will know what will happen if you are caught at that level.

50+ law is fine...

If you guys are going to be upset about something, be upset that bundled in the bill is power for the police to take your car & licence based only on what they think your intentions are.

How do we request disclosure of test records for their mind-reading devices?

Just wondering if any of the 29 "arrests" have been anything other than the 50+ rule. I agree with the fact that the issue with the "intention" part of the rule, although I see so many people having issue with the fact that at 50+ they can impound your car and pull your licence.

I heard this morning in the news that the latest victim of this new law was an Aston Martin Vanquish doing 160, the driver had a suspended license and the owner was on the passenger seat. the car was impounded and the owner was fined $2k fine.

just wait till all the stories come out after the thxgiving wkend.

From what I read today - and I mean, it was the police saying they were doing it in the article - they were mainly trying to get people on the slow downs. Ie, a road at 80 goes to 50. You were doing 20 over (100), and they catch you right after the sign (50 over the 50 speed limit).

You know they're trying to bolster their numbers to say "Look, this law was needed", and of course, at $2k a pop or more, it's a cash cow.

Personally, I'm driving into Toronto tonight in my Civic, doing 110 the whole way. Because you know Fantino needs to pay for his aircraft somehow.

On the edge it said the same somewhere in that rule there is something about drifting as well.. did anyone hear that as well?

Drifting is also obviously stupid on city streets.. and if you drift.. you gotta expect to be caught and treated accordingly..

^^^
Yep, Tokyo Drift go directly to impound, do not pass GO, do not collect $200.

In the paper this morning, 5 people nailed w/ the 50+ law in Peterborough so far. Two of them on Highway #7, one on the #115, and the other two within city limits.

So far, all cars were impounded and licenses pulled for one week - court dates pending, as well. Minimum $2000 fine and up to 6 months in jail, according to the paper.

Apparently, it doesn't matter whether or not you OWN the vehicle either... one of the people busted was a delivery driver. The delivery van was impounded for one week (real good for business), but it's up to the driver to pay for the impound costs, fines, etc.

niiiice. I like seeing that they are catching cars other than the "modified street racing cars"

The very first day the law was passed I saw half a dozen cops searching through 4 cars on a highway 7 off ramp. They had a Prowler, a Vette, a 5.0, and a newer Stang. I can only assume they were all in a bit of trouble!!

We were at Cayuga last night and I was in the passenger seat of my buddies car on the way home where we cruised 150 the entire way back....I was sleeping but I thought for sure I was going to wake up to a cop impounding his car...lol!

Just saw the paper, there was a guy doing 210km/h on the 400 and even tried to get away from the cops. He was also spotted doing 180km/h on finch. This guys in deep sh!t he not only broke the 50km/h law but even tried evading the cops and crashed into a cruiser.

Geez...,
Maybe a speed limiter should be an option on the peckerhead chip.
If possible..
It would be nice for those of us with heavy feet.

Aaron

They are gonna catch more soccer mom's and old guys then they are gonna catch "street racers"

I've done 50 over the speed limit a couple times, but on back roads, and only when I first got my car and was testin' her out.

Now I never even break 40km over on the 401. I hate getting tickets, I hate paying fines, and I hate having to deal with cops on a professional level.

We had someone up here busted doing 132 in an 80 last week. Not sure what he was driving but he wasn't a young punk either, was in his late 30's. Still not sure what he was thinking because I've driven the road he was on and no way he should have been going that fast.

I was appalled to see a BMW passing me at what I estimate 160kph and maintaining speed exiting the Hwy last thrusday night on a foggy rainy night. There were many others 'hiddenly speeding' in the fog. I guess some people simply don't care about others nor themselves.

But what if, at that fraction of a second, having me going at speed limit, downshifting to decelerate as i was approaching the exit, cops see us side to side revving up the engines? The new law, although with the right intention, is dangearous as they can be easily abused.

The count for those affected is going well over 200 so far...

On Sunday morning, I was heading south on the Allen, merging from Lawrence Ave. West when some high end Benz comes roaring up on my behind. I was doing the limit - 80km/h on the dot. So I estimate the driver was doing at least 125 km/h or so.

He flashes his beams and instead moves around me passing on my left and increases his speed to an insane level. I said what ever.

Arriving at the reduce speed to 60 km/h post before getting to Eglinton Ave. West, I did just that and to my shocker I see
I see a cop, then two on the side of the road with the Benz dude. I pull up behind the Benz and waited patiently.


I waited about 2 minutes before giving a light short honk on the horn and the officers look back at me sticking my hand out the window with a thumb up. I get the thumbs up back from them both of them. The one officer comes up to my window and said "this guy is going to get it really good. He should have followed your lead by example"

I said back "some people never will learn".

The officer tells me to go around and to have a nice day.

Amazing to see the cops shift their focus from mufflers to people who actually deserve to get it.

In a way it's not really surprising considering we live in a society driven by naggers and whinners (who should barking at the wrong tree and rethink) and politicians/adminstrator responding to them (who should stop kissing ass and focus on real issues). Also, only in the roads the police has a real presence among most citizens, and where enforcement and revenue collecting activities are easier to execute. This is a slightly different shift because of recent traffic incidents and solid evidence, and action is expected.

Although there are still interest groups and biased media having grudges against modified vehicles, many of us will notice that bad drivers come in all different types and driving a broad variety of vehicles.

As of yesterday they've caught 207.
Min. fine is $2000 so times 207... 414000 bucks! Fantino's aircraft costs how much? 2 Mill? They'll have to catch another 600 and it will be paid for. At this rate, shouldn't be to hard.

when i was getting an alignment on saturday, there was a guy in the shop telling a story to a cop that was there (trying to get a deal on new tires for his Kia) about how he was caught with a customers car (with the customer in it at least) doing 145 on DVP.

he exchanged #s with the cop but even the officer said there's not going to be much he can do about it.

This will just get things back to where they were in the '70s. People have gotten too lazy in watching out for the police, and you'll see a resurgance in illegal radar/laser detectors.

But at 50kph over the limit, there really is no valid excuse.

I've been in your situation, Jaime, only I wasn't doing the speed limit either so there was nowhere to hide. A radar gun is supposed to be able to differentiate which vehicle is doing what speed, though. You just fight it in court. If they can't prove your vehicle was the one going over the limit, you get off.

why couldnt those 207 ppl fight with the radar... My mom told me if you argue with the cop they automatically up the fine 5000$..

Depends on the cop, but normally they won't 'up' the fine but will 'lower' it if you play ball with them. As a Car and Driver editorial put it, "Why not? It's still pure profit for them."

If they have you on radar, it pretty much is a 'dead to rights' thing unless they've really screwed up and didn't calibrate, etc... or just aren't on their game during the court date.

I'm wondering who will be the first DSM'er to have they're car taken away?
Anyone been tagged yet with the 50km/h over law yet?

I don't think any DSMer will get their car taken away.

For soccer moms and guys with their BMW's yada yada, who haven't put the time/patience/parts/money into their cars, they probably don't mean as much to them.

Does anyone on here who has their SUMMER DSM care if they lose it or not?

If so, go fly down the 401 at a buck sixty.

besides, if that happens to any one of us, i think they would be too embarassed to mention it on here

I really doubt anyone from here will get caught but who knows, anyone that gets caught will be to embarased anyways like mentioned above. It's amazing how the word spread real fast to everyone in the tuner world everyone knew by the first day.

I keep seeing people in mini vans speed by me doing 150 or more and I atay at the limit or I'm usually following a group doing 120 or so but I can't believe how stupid some people are.

Just a tangent off this topic, but WHY go over 100km\h?

http://www.edmunds.com/advice/fueleconomy/articles/106842/article.html

Just look at the cold, hard facts.

A coles notes version for those too lazy to read:

Test #1 Aggressive Driving vs. Moderate Driving

Result: Major savings potential

The Cold Hard Facts: Up to 37 percent savings, average savings of 31 percent

Recommendation: Stop driving like a maniac.

Test #2 Lower Speeds Saves Gas

Result: Substantial savings on a long trip

Cold Hard Facts: Up to 14 percent savings, average savings of 12 percent

Recommendation: Drive the speed limit.

Test #3 Use Cruise Control

Result: Surprisingly effective way to save gas

Cold Hard Facts: Up to 14-percent savings, average savings of 7 percent

Recommendation: If you've got it, use it.

There's more to it than that, but seriously, those doing 50 over are
A: Losing fuel economy
B: Going to get caught, lose their license, their vehicle and a month's pay.

Because we all know that Sunoco 94 ain't cheap these days.

If my cruise worked I'd be doing a 100km/h all the way but for some reason its gone due to the 6 bolt in the 2g. Those are some good points there Ryan and I use only 94 but never knew about the savings above.

I predict that I'll be the first to be "awarded" this fate. I've got a sort of morbid curiosity that borders on insanity. I've often done things (or at least considered doing things) that, to the uninitiated observer, would seem insane at worst and pointless at best. Sometimes playing it safe is just about the most dangerous thing one can do. I'll keep you posted.

50km over in the city is pretty reasonable. But 50km over on the highway is not really high enough. I think it should be more like 80km over on the highway. 50km over is only 30mph over not very much.
Common sense comes into play here. If you want to test out your car and stuff do it like on sunday mornings on deserted roads or industrial parts of town.I have done that for years and years and my liscence is minimum. I did come close maybe to a big fine this year as was exercising the 97 talon on outskirts but still within city limits and at night. I broke my own rules. Some lady cop picked me up but not sure when or at what speed. I got no ticket talked my way out of it and she said it was my lucky day as she didn't get me on radar. Maybe she was just being nice.Advantages to being old guy.

Anyway we don't have this law here yet but bet it might go cross canada sooner or later.Blame all these strict laws on idiot fast and furious wannabe morons. Old muscle car guys almost always had the brains to take it out of town. We even have a section called the north quarter for north quartermile.Its just outside city limits and the rcmp are much better about these things than our city police.

Hmmm.. I guess I'm backwards then because I find it easier to do 50+ in the city than I do on the highway. From a stoplight to fourth gear and I'm already doing 90-100km; it's sometimes painful to have to slow down.

On the highway, my cruise speed is 130. I figure I don't wanna die, and if I crash at that speed, I'm pushing my luck. So as a general rule, I don't deviate from 130. Never have.

Just heard after the long weekend from a guy that works with me. That is ex father in law got busted doign 50 over. Got a $5000 fine and car impounded for a week. By the way, the guy that got busted was 65 and driving a mini van.... Don't even cut a break for an old guy. Hate to see what these cops would do to a 20 year old like me...

Probably cut you a break, because "Oh well, the old guy should have known better"

Doing 50 over in a minivan is a bit more dangerous than in a high-performance car, and some cops realize that. The balancing factor is the driver, which is harder for them to judge (not that they're even supposed to).

As for 'driving the limit', they're valid points although if you're disciplined enough you can do it without cruise control and can get even better economy. I seldom drive the limit myself, but usually my max is 30 over, and that's a stretch of rural road that used to be a 100 zone, but got marked down to 80 when they put a new toll highway beside it. Unless you're going for a quick blast of fun, there's no reason to be going faster than that.

As for driving 100 in a city zone, I admit that I've done it a few times when testing the Talon (and that was stock). The car gets up to that speed (and back down again) pretty quickly. The question is not if you can do it, but what could you do if someone walked out in front of you without looking? Even Michael Schumacher would have to say, "Nothing." Sticking to a max of 60 in the city is just being responsible for the safety of others.

Guys, I don't get this.

Why are we running up a thread about how we can't break the law anymore? :sniff:

Awww.. the police are coming down hard on us now because they don't want us to break our cars into blistering speeds at the possible expense of others..???

Going 50 over anywhere at any time whether or not you think you can handle it is wreckless and dangerous.

We have run threads of how we want to keep it at the track, yada yada yada... now we run this up about how we can't "race" down the streets?

Look at it this way:

1: Treat every car on the road as if it has your kids in it.
2: A long straight stretch of road can have hidden hazards like animals, or potholes, possibly damaging your car.
3: Topping out 3rd gear for the purposes of tuning will bring you to approx 140 km/hr. No need to go higher than that.
4: It costs too much.

/rant