New 50km/h law in effect
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October 05, 2007 02:51 pm UTC
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Mike Kuttschrutter
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So the law cracked down on some frends of mine. 2 buddies went for a ride in the one guys 5.0L stang. The owner was in the passenger seat, friend was driving, thinking about buying the car. Took the car for a rip of cource he wanted to see what it would do, before buying it. And just his luck a cop was sitting on the road he decided to test the car out. I didnt find out how fast he was going but obviously 50+
So far all I know is, the one that was driving lost his licence for at least 1 year, and a fine for around $2000, with a court date. The car is being impounded for 1 week. The owner I dont beleive had any loss, except his car being impounded.
Shitty luck for both of them. Just intime for that new law.
He could have obviously tested out the car without going that fast. But everyones an idiot here and there I guess.
Just thought I'd share that with you guys.
Mike
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Re: New 50km/h law in effect
[Re: Rob Strelecki]
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October 05, 2007 05:53 pm UTC
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50+ law is fine...
If you guys are going to be upset about something, be upset that bundled in the bill is power for the police to take your car & licence based only on what they think your intentions are.
How do we request disclosure of test records for their mind-reading devices? From what I read today - and I mean, it was the police saying they were doing it in the article - they were mainly trying to get people on the slow downs. Ie, a road at 80 goes to 50. You were doing 20 over (100), and they catch you right after the sign (50 over the 50 speed limit). You know they're trying to bolster their numbers to say "Look, this law was needed", and of course, at $2k a pop or more, it's a cash cow. Personally, I'm driving into Toronto tonight in my Civic, doing 110 the whole way. Because you know Fantino needs to pay for his aircraft somehow.
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Re: New 50km/h law in effect
[Re: Rob Strelecki]
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October 06, 2007 02:07 am UTC
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In the paper this morning, 5 people nailed w/ the 50+ law in Peterborough so far. Two of them on Highway #7, one on the #115, and the other two within city limits.
So far, all cars were impounded and licenses pulled for one week - court dates pending, as well. Minimum $2000 fine and up to 6 months in jail, according to the paper.
Apparently, it doesn't matter whether or not you OWN the vehicle either... one of the people busted was a delivery driver. The delivery van was impounded for one week (real good for business), but it's up to the driver to pay for the impound costs, fines, etc.
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Re: New 50km/h law in effect
[Re: Aaron Gamgee]
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October 07, 2007 10:21 am UTC
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Brandon Clement
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They are gonna catch more soccer mom's and old guys then they are gonna catch "street racers"
I've done 50 over the speed limit a couple times, but on back roads, and only when I first got my car and was testin' her out.
Now I never even break 40km over on the 401. I hate getting tickets, I hate paying fines, and I hate having to deal with cops on a professional level.
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Re: New 50km/h law in effect
[Re: Jaime Loo]
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October 08, 2007 09:48 am UTC
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On Sunday morning, I was heading south on the Allen, merging from Lawrence Ave. West when some high end Benz comes roaring up on my behind. I was doing the limit - 80km/h on the dot. So I estimate the driver was doing at least 125 km/h or so.
He flashes his beams and instead moves around me passing on my left and increases his speed to an insane level. I said what ever.
Arriving at the reduce speed to 60 km/h post before getting to Eglinton Ave. West, I did just that and to my shocker I see I see a cop, then two on the side of the road with the Benz dude. I pull up behind the Benz and waited patiently.
I waited about 2 minutes before giving a light short honk on the horn and the officers look back at me sticking my hand out the window with a thumb up. I get the thumbs up back from them both of them. The one officer comes up to my window and said "this guy is going to get it really good. He should have followed your lead by example"
I said back "some people never will learn".
The officer tells me to go around and to have a nice day.
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Re: New 50km/h law in effect
[Re: Grant Redfern]
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October 09, 2007 01:55 pm UTC
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Troy Jollimore
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This will just get things back to where they were in the '70s. People have gotten too lazy in watching out for the police, and you'll see a resurgance in illegal radar/laser detectors.
But at 50kph over the limit, there really is no valid excuse.
I've been in your situation, Jaime, only I wasn't doing the speed limit either so there was nowhere to hide. A radar gun is supposed to be able to differentiate which vehicle is doing what speed, though. You just fight it in court. If they can't prove your vehicle was the one going over the limit, you get off.
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Re: New 50km/h law in effect
[Re: Brian Fernandez]
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October 10, 2007 11:53 am UTC
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Troy Jollimore
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Depends on the cop, but normally they won't 'up' the fine but will 'lower' it if you play ball with them. As a Car and Driver editorial put it, "Why not? It's still pure profit for them."
If they have you on radar, it pretty much is a 'dead to rights' thing unless they've really screwed up and didn't calibrate, etc... or just aren't on their game during the court date.
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Re: New 50km/h law in effect
[Re: Isaque Nunes]
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October 10, 2007 04:52 pm UTC
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Ryan Laliberte
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I don't think any DSMer will get their car taken away.
For soccer moms and guys with their BMW's yada yada, who haven't put the time/patience/parts/money into their cars, they probably don't mean as much to them.
Does anyone on here who has their SUMMER DSM care if they lose it or not?
If so, go fly down the 401 at a buck sixty.
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Re: New 50km/h law in effect
[Re: Isaque Nunes]
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October 10, 2007 06:21 pm UTC
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I'm wondering who will be the first DSM'er to have they're car taken away? I really doubt anyone from here will get caught but who knows, anyone that gets caught will be to embarased anyways like mentioned above. It's amazing how the word spread real fast to everyone in the tuner world everyone knew by the first day. I keep seeing people in mini vans speed by me doing 150 or more and I atay at the limit or I'm usually following a group doing 120 or so but I can't believe how stupid some people are.
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Re: New 50km/h law in effect
[Re: Mike Palome]
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October 10, 2007 06:27 pm UTC
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Ryan Laliberte
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Just a tangent off this topic, but WHY go over 100km\h? http://www.edmunds.com/advice/fueleconomy/articles/106842/article.htmlJust look at the cold, hard facts. A coles notes version for those too lazy to read: Test #1 Aggressive Driving vs. Moderate Driving Result: Major savings potential The Cold Hard Facts: Up to 37 percent savings, average savings of 31 percent Recommendation: Stop driving like a maniac. Test #2 Lower Speeds Saves GasResult: Substantial savings on a long trip Cold Hard Facts: Up to 14 percent savings, average savings of 12 percent Recommendation: Drive the speed limit. Test #3 Use Cruise ControlResult: Surprisingly effective way to save gas Cold Hard Facts: Up to 14-percent savings, average savings of 7 percent Recommendation: If you've got it, use it. There's more to it than that, but seriously, those doing 50 over are A: Losing fuel economy B: Going to get caught, lose their license, their vehicle and a month's pay. Because we all know that Sunoco 94 ain't cheap these days.
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Re: New 50km/h law in effect
[Re: Paul Bratina]
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October 10, 2007 11:17 pm UTC
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50km over in the city is pretty reasonable. But 50km over on the highway is not really high enough. I think it should be more like 80km over on the highway. 50km over is only 30mph over not very much. Common sense comes into play here. If you want to test out your car and stuff do it like on sunday mornings on deserted roads or industrial parts of town.I have done that for years and years and my liscence is minimum. I did come close maybe to a big fine this year as was exercising the 97 talon on outskirts but still within city limits and at night. I broke my own rules. Some lady cop picked me up but not sure when or at what speed. I got no ticket talked my way out of it and she said it was my lucky day as she didn't get me on radar. Maybe she was just being nice.Advantages to being old guy.
Anyway we don't have this law here yet but bet it might go cross canada sooner or later.Blame all these strict laws on idiot fast and furious wannabe morons. Old muscle car guys almost always had the brains to take it out of town. We even have a section called the north quarter for north quartermile.Its just outside city limits and the rcmp are much better about these things than our city police.
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Re: New 50km/h law in effect
[Re: Dan Duware]
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October 11, 2007 02:56 am UTC
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Just heard after the long weekend from a guy that works with me. That is ex father in law got busted doign 50 over. Got a $5000 fine and car impounded for a week. By the way, the guy that got busted was 65 and driving a mini van.... Don't even cut a break for an old guy. Hate to see what these cops would do to a 20 year old like me...
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Re: New 50km/h law in effect
[Re: James Crawford]
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October 11, 2007 10:10 am UTC
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Ryan Laliberte
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Probably cut you a break, because "Oh well, the old guy should have known better"
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Re: New 50km/h law in effect
[Re: Ryan Laliberte]
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October 11, 2007 12:20 pm UTC
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Troy Jollimore
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Doing 50 over in a minivan is a bit more dangerous than in a high-performance car, and some cops realize that. The balancing factor is the driver, which is harder for them to judge (not that they're even supposed to).
As for 'driving the limit', they're valid points although if you're disciplined enough you can do it without cruise control and can get even better economy. I seldom drive the limit myself, but usually my max is 30 over, and that's a stretch of rural road that used to be a 100 zone, but got marked down to 80 when they put a new toll highway beside it. Unless you're going for a quick blast of fun, there's no reason to be going faster than that.
As for driving 100 in a city zone, I admit that I've done it a few times when testing the Talon (and that was stock). The car gets up to that speed (and back down again) pretty quickly. The question is not if you can do it, but what could you do if someone walked out in front of you without looking? Even Michael Schumacher would have to say, "Nothing." Sticking to a max of 60 in the city is just being responsible for the safety of others.
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Re: New 50km/h law in effect
[Re: Troy Jollimore]
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October 11, 2007 12:26 pm UTC
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Ryan Laliberte
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Guys, I don't get this.
Why are we running up a thread about how we can't break the law anymore? :sniff:
Awww.. the police are coming down hard on us now because they don't want us to break our cars into blistering speeds at the possible expense of others..???
Going 50 over anywhere at any time whether or not you think you can handle it is wreckless and dangerous.
We have run threads of how we want to keep it at the track, yada yada yada... now we run this up about how we can't "race" down the streets?
Look at it this way:
1: Treat every car on the road as if it has your kids in it. 2: A long straight stretch of road can have hidden hazards like animals, or potholes, possibly damaging your car. 3: Topping out 3rd gear for the purposes of tuning will bring you to approx 140 km/hr. No need to go higher than that. 4: It costs too much.
/rant
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