Well, it seems the Buschur Forums shows the new schedule for the 2008 DSM Shootout.

Here's the deets:

16th ANNUAL DSM/EVO SHOOTOUT

Presented by:
Buschur Racing, Dynoflash, DSM Tuners, and Exedy Clutches

-Saturday, August 16th. Open house, dyno shootout and car show held at Buschur Racing in Wakeman, Ohio. Don't miss this, it is a huge turn out and great time.

-Sunday, August 17th. Gates open at Norwalk Raceway park at 8am. Track closes at 5 pm

-Quick 16 qualifying at 10 am, 11 am and 12 pm.
-Time trials from 8 am until noon. When racing is completed time trials will begin again.
-Car and driver entry fee is $35. Spectator entry fee is $15. Kids 12 and under are free.
-FILL OUT YOUR TECH CARDS NEATLY AND COMPLETELY. Failure to do so will result in NOT receiving ANY prizes for your win!! Tech cards must be turned in at the head of the staging lanes before you make your first pass.
-Your class designation goes on the windshield followed by the number on your tech card. Class designations are listed in parenthesis next to the class names below. This is your class/car number for the day. You will time trial and race from the same lane all day. Lane assignments listed below.
-For 2007 any Mitsubishi powered vehicle can run at the shootout as long as it had either the original engine in the car (420A, 1.8 liter Mitsu, Stealth-3000GT, 3 liter Mitsu V6 etc.) or is powered by any one of these Mitsu engines. Cars NOT powered by a 4G63 MUST run in either Bracket 1 or Bracket 2.


DSM STOCK APPEARING (DSA)
-Heads up class. Pro Tree. LANE 1
-Any 1990-1999 Talon, Eclipse, Laser or Galant VR4
-Full interior required. Full exhaust required. NO nitrous. DOT 140+ treadwear tires only.
-FMIC's OK but must fit without any visable cutting of the front fascia. NO external wastegates. NO sheetmetal intakes. NO air to water intercoolers. NO headers. COP ignition OK. Sheetmetal 02 housings with recirculating dumps OK. Turbos must remain stock appearing except for the 2g DSM which can upgrade to the TD05H apearing turbos.
-Open element air filter OK for speed density conversions but must be done neatly and retain stock position of air filter.
-All participants in this class will qualify, time trial and race from lane #1.
-On your windshield you will put in large print DSA followed by the number from your tech card.

DSM ELIMINATOR (DSE) Sponsored by DSMTUNERS.com
-Heads up class. Pro Tree. LANE 2
-Any 1990-1999 Talon, Eclipse, Laser or Galant VR4
-This is for the more seriously modified DSM. The only rules are full interior, full exhaust, NO nitrous and ANY DOT tire.
-All DSM Eliminator cars will qualify, time trial and race from lane #2
-On your windshield you will put in large print, DSE followed by the number from your tech card. This is your class/car number for the day.


EVO STOCK APPEARING (ESA)
-Heads up class. Pro Tree. LANE 3
-Evolution 7's, 8's and 9's only.
-Car must retain stock appearing intake and exhaust manifolds. Stock appearing turbo. Sheetmetal 02 housings with recirculating dumps OK. Full exhaust is required. Intercooler, intercooler plumbing, MAF inlet, air filter, battery kits are all OK for this class. Good example of a legal appearing car is a Buschur Racing Stage 4 EVO. Beyond those mods the car will not pass for stock appearing. NO nitrous. DOT tires with 140+ treadwear only.
-All EVO Stock Appearing cars will qualify, time trial and race from LANE 3.
-On your windshield you will put in large print, ESA followed by the number from your tech card. This is your class/car number for the day.


EVO ELIMINATOR (EE) Sponsored by Exedy clutches
-Heads up class. Pro tree. LANE 4
-Evolution 7's, 8's and 9's only.
-This is for the more modified Evolutions. The only rules are full interior, full exhaust, NO nitrous and ANY DOT tire.
-All Evo Eliminator cars will qualify, time trial and race from LANE #4.
-On your windshield you will put in large print, EE followed by the number from your tech card. This is your class/car number for the day.

BRACKET 1 (B1)
-This is a handicapped start class for cars running between 0-12.99 seconds. LANE 5
-ANYTHING goes as long as it is Mitsubishi powered OR is a Mitsubishi bodied car with the OEM engine in it.
-All Bracket 1 cars will qualify, time trial and race from LANE #5.
-On your windshield you will put in large print, B1 followed by the number from your tech card. This is your class/car number for the day.



BRACKET 2 (B2)
-This is a handicapped start class for cars running 13.00 and slower. LANE 6
-ANYTHING goes as long as it is Mitsubishi powered OR is a Mitsubishi bodied car with the OEM engine in it.
-All Bracket 2 cars will qualify, time trial and race from LANE #6
-On your windshield you will put in large print, B2 followed by the number from your tech card. This is your class/car number for the day.


QUICK 16 (Q16)
-Heads up Pro Tree. Anything goes as long as it is 4G63 powered. NO tube chassis cars. You MUST qualify at one of the qualifying times to enter this class. If you do NOT qualify you can enter in any other class your car FITS THE RULES for. LANE 8.
-All Quick 16 cars will qualify, time trial and race from LANE #8
-On your windshield you will put in large print, Q16 followed by the number from your tech card. This is your class/car number for the day.
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VENDORS. I accept vendors at the shootout. The booth space is $500 for each vendor. It can be paid the day of the race or earlier if you like. It gets your booth space (any size) and up to 5 people in on Sunday.

CLASS SPONSORS. Always interested in having new sponsors on board. Each class is $1500 to sponsor. This gets your name on the trophies, announcements throughout the day about your business, your company display in with vendor status and 5 people. Saturday at our open house a limited size display can be put up at our open house. Your display space is unlimited on Sunday at the track.

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HOTELS

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BANNED BUSINESS's

Norwalk Arby's. REMEMBER DO NOT SPEND ANY MONEY OR EVEN GO INTO THE PARKING LOT OF THE NORWALK ARBY'S. ARBY's doesn't want us there, they do not like our "crowd".

Wakeman Hardware. Another business that doesn't get it. The owner of the hardware store also owns the vacant lot next to our shop, this year it was roped off as he will not allow us to park there, even after I mowed this property for 2 full years for him as a (free) favor. Do not visit the store, do not use his bathroom.......he doesn't like that either. He is also one of the last or at this point probably THE last remaining business is our small town that is fighting having the street closed off for our event.

Only 32 weeks left!!!

Should be there, DSA will be my class.

Ghislain.

DSA here as well.

Then the war is on!!!

Ghislain.

You bet! Maybe incentive to get some Meth? Or a 50 Trim?

Nah, I'll probably just upgrade the B16G for an EVO16G. That should be enough.

Ghislain.

So you can't have any race seats in DSA/DSE?

What kind of times were people running last year in DSA & DSE?

Stock appearing exterior, Turbo, engine, and oh crap.... Full interior?

May have to "borrow" some from my winter beater.

Hello.

The mass of these two class' goes like so; DSA is low 12, high 11 and the DSE is low 11, deep into the 10...

Ghislain.

Ryan just bolt a couple lawn chairs into the back.

I Have wanted to attend this event for some time now.
I think I will try to get my ass there for sure this time.
Sounds like a great time!

Does anyone know if this would qualify for stock appearing? its still a tdo5 housing

Nope...

Your turbo must look like this:



This is where a sleeper 16G comes in from Forced Performance

Hello Randy.

I do not think that this Turbo would be accepted in the DSM Stock Apearing (DSA). I think that they mean a 14B looking Snail.

Now, I could be wrong, you could ask Dave B to confirm that the above Turbo is acceptable for that class.

Ghislain.

Will be there to just not running my car wouldn't want to get stranded in Ohio lol .

I hope to drive my car down for 2008 but that's pretty far away and who knows what will blow up from now until then.

This will either be the best or worst DSM shootout in history.

Ain't that the truth Tim.

Woodstock Shootout!!!

You guys listen too much to the gossip.

All SO are good to me.

Ghislain.

I don't listen to the gossip. I don't have much time for forums anymore, minus this one when I can. The issue is simply the fact that Dave is a baby but has run the shootout since it's conception. Some key guys may refuse to show up.

sh!t happends, I know that I'll be attending unless work dictates otherwise.

Ghislain.

Shep will be there, he doesn't have some huge ties to Buschur besides the block.

Rau however is a Magnus machine.

AMS? That should be fun.

Pruven and Dynoflash will be there, and I'm sure the Exedy Buschur track Evo won't be unhappy to enter into the EVO Quick 16.

Eh, Ryan. Did I say that I was gonna be there unless my Sgt decides to "ship me out"???

That is all that matters (or mathers)... Heck I'll even feed your gf some beers...

Ghislain.

Goody.

Hey Giz, check your PM.

I just did. Check yours...

Moi.

For those of you who are planning to attend the shootout to "race" there are a couple of gas stations in Norwalk that sell E85. They are 'Fuel Plus' on 211 Cleveland rd and 'Schilds IGA' on 171 Milan. From what I understand this 100-105 octane E85 is cost effective and popular with the folks who can get it. Just a heads up.....

You have to tune for E85. It's not like race gas in terms of a/f ratios needed. You need a lot more injector and an a/f wideband gauge kit which read lambda, not even mention you have to understand what lambda even reads.

Yes, just to add, you can't just throw in a tank of E85 and run crazy boost and crazy timing. Most cars running E85 are tuned for it and have the fuel support to use it.

Hardware is just as important as tuning for it.

Gee, so much for that idea.

^^^
Not to mention, you could blow yourself up!

I might be at this one, I don't work weekends so it's a good possibility

Won't be attending again, and what I have seen lately I wouldn't do anything that supports that POS D.B.

+1

I plan to go anyway.

Ghislain.

For me it is not a question of supporting anyone. I think it is a fantastic event, and look forward to seeing DSM's on the track all day long. I WILL be going.

Who else is going, and where will you be staying??

Plantation again. We made reservations last year, had to cancel them due to the car not running (and thank god we did, it rained), but we'll be making reservations.

I want to trailer the car down this year. I can get a trailer, and want to rent a truck. I just have to find someone over the age of 25 to rent the truck for me.

You don't have to be 25 to rent a truck.

^^ FYI, you HAVE to be 25 or have someone 25+ sign for you in order to rent anything from most companies. Car, truck, motorbike, boat... They don't like renting out to "youngins".

Bullshit, I've rented many vehicles without question, even cube vans, trailers and heavy equipment.

I'm 25 now but this was at least a year ago and I only had a g2.

Nah, I even have a corporate discount at a few rental places, and I know for a fact, if you want to rent a nice big truck that will tow anything at say a Budget, Enterprise, National or Avis, I have to be 25.

Our enterprise here. When I rented our cargo van for work only made sure I was 21 or over and had a G license.

It sometime does not have to do with the rental but with the insurance co.

Ghislain.

I recently rented a 20 ft'er from Discount.

Im 20 with a g2...

Aaron

We'll see when the time comes.

I rented a GMC sierra diesel for work last year. Full size 4x4. They have age categories and charge accordingly.

Bah, don't play into the soap opera.

I don't care who's running it as long as I see some crazy fast cars and a few hot broads and drink beers with my buddies.

Heh, Kevin, you weren't in our room the first night we were there were you? Eric Kellar got a hell of a show.

Does that mean you're coming Kevin? Are you actually driving your DSM this year?

No, why was there some kind of peep show or sexy dancing going on in there?

I hope to drive my car down this summer, might not make the spring cruise though. Looks like I'm probably going to need a flywheel and a few other things.

Anyone planning to stay at the Plantation this year??

Yeah, Sam and I are. I would assume Giz, Scott, Andy, Steve and PPG will be as well.

It's where CA DSM usually goes as far as I know.

Bonjour from Paris, France...

I will most likely be staying at the plantation this year.

Kev, get your gear together for the cruise! Slacker..

Cool....last year we were the only ones there..
Anyone know if Giz, Scott, Andy, Steve, and PPG are planning to go this year?

Hello.

I plan to attend but no garrenty.

Yo, Pete. Lalala...

Ghislain.

Hey, I was there... I plan on going again. Just gotta get the new setup in. Hopefully I can get on the track this year too.

Unfortunately, Buschur has once again picked the weekend of my daughter's birthday.

I won't be going.

Got a solution for that Steve; bring her with you... I'll even buy the cake!!!

Ghislain.

Judging by the music they play, there should be ice cream too!

AHHHHAHAHAHAH

Steve, I have a way to get around this for you. How old is your daughter turning?

See, what you do is celebrate with the family the weekend before, then let her have her party the weekend of the shootout. This way, you won't have to be around for a bunch of screaming children (That is if your daughter is turning a very young age).

Shame on you all.

LOL. She's turning 3. Remember, it's not just the daughter involved here.... it's the wife as well.

Between that, and me only getting 2 weeks vacation this year, I'm afraid I'm going to have to pass guys.. Sorry.

Fear not though.. there will be another Peckerhead Shootout. (Although every time we try and run that at Cayuga... we don'ty race. Gonna have to fix that this year..)

Say Steve, you look alot like Steve Buscemi these days.

Sweet. This time I should have my talon on the road so I can join in.

Well guys, we're 4 months away!

First off, where are we staying this year.

Gull? Plantation?

Who is all planning on attending?

I really like the Plantation when we went in 06' I camped on their lawn for cheap.

I quite liked the Plantation also. Last year we had one of those little cabins in the back...really private and even CHEAPER than a room in the motel building....

I plan on attending again this year

Yea I enjoyed the cabin.

I got a lot of work ahead of me though if I'm going.

Get crackin' there Randy.

Sam and I are probably going to rent a room/cabin with Eric and his better half. He's going to be coming, will just be a little late.

If everything goes right will also be attending.

Just made my reservations! Will be staying at the Plantation again

Maybe I should me ars in gear and reserve a room...

Wiil probably do when I get back from England.

Ghislain.

Hey Ghis, when do you get back?

Around the 8th July.

Ghislain.

Looks like I wont be going

Unless I get everything sorted out with my component transfer to the regular force, anyway. I graduate reserve Police College on the 14th of August, and get posted to CFB Borden on the 20th of August. Problem is, I need to sort out the transfer.. Money, kit, etc.

Anyone in the army knows what I am talking about.

Ya, looks like I won't go either, car/money trouble. Same old dsm story I guess.

So, 2 weeks, who's all going?

I'm out... no car, no funds.

I would have made it sans spun bearing!!

I will be there

I wanted to be there but will probably not be able to attend this year.

Sucks but oh well.

Ghislain.

I won't be attending either.

However, I WILL be at Radiohead Friday night,.... one more thing I can cross off my list of things to see before I die.

Maybe next year. I must say, I do miss Norwalk.

Since no one is going, I won't be going either. I went once so at least I can say I did it.

I am no-one???

You're someone in my books Ziggy!

I don't even think PPG or Andy are going. I know Steve isn't.

Sorry Zigman didn't see your post!

When I went (2006) I followed a bunch of people down (Ghis, Scott, Pete, Kevin, Ryan, Eric and company), which in my opinion was the best part of the trip and on the way back followed Mark, Andy, Rob, Steve probably forgetting someone.

I also liked hanging out at Buschur's shop, drags were fun to but because I didn't have a DSM on the road I wasn't racing which would have been more fun.

Maybe next year, especially if I get a permanent position at work and accumulate some time off.

Have fun Ziggy take some pictures!

I'm thinking attendence will be down this year. The whole GOBC isn't going this year at all. Hell I just got my car running again. I will miss the shootout again this year (as I did last year).

There is also the issue of the most recent Buschur vs Magnus crap that (I feel) will impact how many people attend. I know I was left a bit in awe of how nasty it got. I'm sure a large majority of NABR guys won't go this year.

It will be interesting to see what happens. I had always looked forward to Bacon gravy, real mexican food and lots of beer/sh!t-talking/sleepness nights.

Have fun!

I don't mean to go off topic, but I think this calls for another Peckerhead shootout!

I'm getting bored. Half the summer has gone by and still barely any DSM's on the track.
The next CSCS event, I guess I'll be the only DSM competing from this club in SS/PA class.

Peckerhead shootout indeed, but lets not make it in October.

Hopefully I will have something to run, even if it's only on the 14b.

I am not involved in NABR or in any of the political stuff. I am also not racing...just going to look at a lot of nice cars and see some races ...and have a little "holiday"...that is good enough for me.

Peckerhead shootout indeed!
He's gotta get off his ass and get er done though.

I'd love a track day. Maybe we should get Andy to organize it again (bahaha) It may even motivate him to fix the damn car!

But yes, before the snow flies please!

Where the hell has Andy been anyway??

Scuba Diving.

Ghislain.

WTF? Not ONE update from ANYONE about the shootout weekend?

You guys all suck.

Maybe they're not back yet?

Or maybe you're right and they all suck.

Back? Bah, they don't need to be back to give us updates.

Hell, I was sending out pictures of bacon gravy from the breakfast table last time I went.

Someone could have thrown us a bone of SOME sort while they were there. They suck.

First SO I haven't gone to in 5 years. And you know what, I would have felt like I missed something good if Dave wasn't such a sh!t disturber.

Sorry I suck..but not all of us know how to send pictures from afar.

I didn't bring a laptop, and my cell phone battery died. I couldn't even PHONE home without a pay phone, never mind send pictures.

Anyways, I am not much of a photographer anyways...I am sure there will be MUCH better pics on you tube and elsewhere...

But it WAS fun, and the bacon gravy was still delicious

I was most impressed by some of the EVO's.....just amazing!

In the quick 16, 14 of the cars were legitimate 9 second cars

Anybody from here got some good times???

Ghislain.

It looks like Pat (driver) and Mark (wrencher / tuner) from Forcepower won the DSM Eliminator with a 10.7@135 pass.

Ya, I think that was pretty much his only good run of the day. I think he was 11.53 the round before..

Shep's daily driver EVO went 9.9. I wish I could have a race car that went 9.9.

What a Shootout this year!!!!!
Didn't see any dsmcanada people there and im really surprized that Tim and Eric didn't come down.
Anyway....ForcePower and Team S.O.DSM was there in full effect once again. Didn't take quite the fleet we wanted to but I believe we had 12 or so of us there.
We did win the DSM Eliminator with the BlackBird and another one of our Team guys came runner-up in the DSA class.
Just for the record for those that are counting....I put down 3 10 second passes and of coarse with it being "heads up" racing, my slower runs were because I was shutting down at 3/4 track to save the car.
Again.....what a Shootout, weather was perfect and im still on cloud 9.