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1GB N/T Tranny into a 1GA Automatic #252160 January 04, 2008 07:34 pm UTC January 04, 2008 07:34 pm UTC
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 10,749 Belleville, Ontario Ryan Laliberte OP No-Lift-To-Shift.... Stock. :)
Ryan Laliberte OP No-Lift-To-Shift.... Stock. :) Senior Member, with Far TOO Much Time on Their Hands Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 10,749 Belleville, Ontario	Hey guys. I have a good line on a manual conversion swap for my 1G Turbo FWD Auto. Tranny is a JDM from a 93 N/T. Looked on AAAQ and this is what I got: Quote It must also be noted that the manual transmissions from turbo FWD and non-turbo FWD cars are different. Non-turbo FWD 1Gs have a F5M22 transmission (manual) or F4A22 transmission (automatic). Non-turbo 2Gs have a F5MC1 transmission (manual) or F4AC1 transmission (automatic). Turbo FWD 1Gs and 2Gs have a F5M33 transmission (manual) or F4A33 transmission (automatic). These transmissions are not interchangeable, and they are geared differently. Now I don't think this applies to me, as I'm not going from manual to manual, but from auto to manual. So would this work? AWDAuto 1996 TSi AWD Automagic 12.24 @ 113 - Small 16G FP Green HTA - 11.42/123 Team Pump Gas and Meth RTMRacing - Your Canadian source for DSM Parts "Every moment you live is pregnant with the next moment of your life" --Jim Carrey Last Login: September 28, 2021

Re: 1GB N/T Tranny into a 1GA Automatic [Re: Ryan Laliberte] #252161 January 04, 2008 07:49 pm UTC January 04, 2008 07:49 pm UTC
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Rob Strelecki morum foderator Senior Member, with Far TOO Much Time on Their Hands Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 15,322 Loc: Loc:	You can run it but if you make any good power you will destroy it. 1993 Eagle Talon TSi FWD 13.8 @ 106 :::: 14.1 @ 117

Re: 1GB N/T Tranny into a 1GA Automatic [Re: Rob Strelecki] #252162 January 04, 2008 07:58 pm UTC January 04, 2008 07:58 pm UTC
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 10,749 Belleville, Ontario Ryan Laliberte OP No-Lift-To-Shift.... Stock. :)
Ryan Laliberte OP No-Lift-To-Shift.... Stock. :) Senior Member, with Far TOO Much Time on Their Hands Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 10,749 Belleville, Ontario	No, It's a front driver winter beater, and I will only be running about 15 psi out of the 14b. It's more of a show than go. AWDAuto 1996 TSi AWD Automagic 12.24 @ 113 - Small 16G FP Green HTA - 11.42/123 Team Pump Gas and Meth RTMRacing - Your Canadian source for DSM Parts "Every moment you live is pregnant with the next moment of your life" --Jim Carrey Last Login: September 28, 2021

Re: 1GB N/T Tranny into a 1GA Automatic [Re: Ryan Laliberte] #252164 January 04, 2008 08:02 pm UTC January 04, 2008 08:02 pm UTC
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Rob Strelecki morum foderator Senior Member, with Far TOO Much Time on Their Hands Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 15,322 Loc: Loc:	A "show beater". Interesting.

Re: 1GB N/T Tranny into a 1GA Automatic [Re: Rob Strelecki] #252167 January 04, 2008 08:20 pm UTC January 04, 2008 08:20 pm UTC
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 10,749 Belleville, Ontario Ryan Laliberte OP No-Lift-To-Shift.... Stock. :)
Ryan Laliberte OP No-Lift-To-Shift.... Stock. :) Senior Member, with Far TOO Much Time on Their Hands Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 10,749 Belleville, Ontario	Well, 2 year old black cherry paint (Same as Shep) and no rust.. interior is immaculate. My $500 beater. Compression on the motor (4-1) 165-160-155-165 280K. My AWD is my go car. AWDAuto 1996 TSi AWD Automagic 12.24 @ 113 - Small 16G FP Green HTA - 11.42/123 Team Pump Gas and Meth RTMRacing - Your Canadian source for DSM Parts "Every moment you live is pregnant with the next moment of your life" --Jim Carrey Last Login: September 28, 2021

Re: 1GB N/T Tranny into a 1GA Automatic [Re: Ryan Laliberte] #252176 January 04, 2008 09:10 pm UTC January 04, 2008 09:10 pm UTC
Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 3,065 Colborne Adam Grenon Insane Member
Adam Grenon Insane Member Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 3,065 Colborne	I've got an n/t tranny in my FWD converted to turbo, I don't have any real mods but its been fine with the mbc I had turned up to 15 psi. I drove it for 2 years without problems, it was a mint jdm. I also had it apart about halfway through and it looked great. 2012 - Lancer Ralliart Octane Blue 1991 - Talon Tsi AWD FP HTA 71 1992 - Talon Tsi AWD on hold

Re: 1GB N/T Tranny into a 1GA Automatic [Re: Adam Grenon] #252276 January 06, 2008 02:55 pm UTC January 06, 2008 02:55 pm UTC
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 513 toronto.ont H Helder Dapont Serious Member
Helder Dapont Serious Member H Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 513 toronto.ont	I had a n/a that i made turbo..run 30 psi with no problems ..had a gt30r on it..smoke a lot of car on the hwy with it..funny i didn't go though one motor in that car..the`awd was different story..

Re: 1GB N/T Tranny into a 1GA Automatic [Re: Helder Dapont] #252277 January 06, 2008 03:43 pm UTC January 06, 2008 03:43 pm UTC
Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 4,264 GTA Tim Grechin Senior Member, with Far TOO Much Time on Their Hands
Tim Grechin Senior Member, with Far TOO Much Time on Their Hands Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 4,264 GTA	Helder, Ryan is talking about the FWD n/t transmission, not the motor. Back on topic. The N/T transmissions are weaker. I've seen is first hand and don't care to ever use one or advise anyone to use one. Not only do you need to use a n/t flywheel, but you will also need a n/t style clutch. Not to mention that 3rd gear is made of hay and straw. Case #1 (My car): As you can see, one hard 3rd gear pull at 20psi on a 16G did more harm then good. Case #2 (Kyle Mavis): http://videos.streetfire.net/Player.aspx?fileid=33C85506-4DAE-4D62-B0BA-21A62AF3E19B One week after my failure, the other n/t tranny user did the exact same thing. This new time was done on a 14b at 20psi. N/T trannies are pooh. 11.254@132.14MPH - Tractionally impaired

Re: 1GB N/T Tranny into a 1GA Automatic [Re: Helder Dapont] #252285 January 06, 2008 05:56 pm UTC January 06, 2008 05:56 pm UTC
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 513 toronto.ont H Helder Dapont Serious Member
Helder Dapont Serious Member H Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 513 toronto.ont	ya i know>I went though 3 tranny ..wasn't to bad ..u can find them anywhere...as for the awd drive i Guess launching at 20psi well do the some as i have a ton of tranny that look like that too... Last edited by Helder Dapont; January 06, 2008 06:49 pm UTC.

Re: 1GB N/T Tranny into a 1GA Automatic [Re: Helder Dapont] #252346 January 07, 2008 03:53 am UTC January 07, 2008 03:53 am UTC
Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,061 Colborne, ON Kevin Jenkins Serious Member
Kevin Jenkins Serious Member Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,061 Colborne, ON	I've been using an n/t tranny and clutch for a couple years now and haven't seen any problems. That being said, I only run 12psi and have no plans of turning it up any higher on this car so it's no problem. Why not just wait it out until you seen a deal on a turbo tranny come along and then you don't have to worry about it. '97 Talon TSi AWD '92 Talon T/NT For Sale '00 Subaru Forester

Re: 1GB N/T Tranny into a 1GA Automatic [Re: Kevin Jenkins] #252348 January 07, 2008 03:58 am UTC January 07, 2008 03:58 am UTC
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 10,749 Belleville, Ontario Ryan Laliberte OP No-Lift-To-Shift.... Stock. :)
Ryan Laliberte OP No-Lift-To-Shift.... Stock. :) Senior Member, with Far TOO Much Time on Their Hands Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 10,749 Belleville, Ontario	That's what I plan on doing. AWDAuto 1996 TSi AWD Automagic 12.24 @ 113 - Small 16G FP Green HTA - 11.42/123 Team Pump Gas and Meth RTMRacing - Your Canadian source for DSM Parts "Every moment you live is pregnant with the next moment of your life" --Jim Carrey Last Login: September 28, 2021

Re: 1GB N/T Tranny into a 1GA Automatic [Re: Ryan Laliberte] #252550 January 09, 2008 01:38 am UTC January 09, 2008 01:38 am UTC
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 3,537 Belleville, Ontario Jay McClelland Insane Member
Jay McClelland Insane Member Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 3,537 Belleville, Ontario	Ryan, Once my talon is on the road I will probably have a spare fwd turbo tranny(5spd ofcourse). If you might be interested pm me we can work something out I imagine. 2g awd, Back to dsms here I come.

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