There are 'staged' clutches, Jay.

Yeah, I think Spec clutches have their "stages" don't they?

To: ilive1@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: Talon for sale!!
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 00:18:05 -0500
From: bmwm3vergara@netscape.net

hi there well the car was a project car that never got finished and yes it is street legal and track rdy, the car i did my own custom skirt package so i only primed the car black thats what it is now! the car needs a paint job do but it wasnt the car i am selling its the engine the car is just a bonus!the engine is from a 97 evo from japan, thats were i got the engine from! FWD Stage 4 turbonetics turbo,and other addons.

There are 'staged' clutches, Jay. The marketing is more for the 'Gran Turismo' crowd. You just KNOW some kid with rich parents is going to whine for this, thinking that it's the ultimate ride. Just like his 'Need for Speed' car.

At least it would be unique, with that IC setup.

You guys aren't going to seriously get this guy going. Your messages have too much punctuation and grammar for him. Gotta talk on HIS level.

Hey brian how ru? its Dennis here, well here are the only pics i got from the beginning of the project when i 1st put the engine in with all the addons, the car on this pics are from 2001 has no rust,never winter driven always garaged, the stock color is gold, i sanded the car and primed it the way i thought i would like it to paint but never did its black primer right now and a bit dusty, but still has balls!! i use to race for pinks if that help u in any way i stoped cause u know wife getting married so have to get rid of some of the toys, so here are the pics of how the car looked when i did the custom skirt and primed it black and thats what it looks like now! all the spots u see sanded or black is were i sanded more to take away key scratches that the car had when i got it from my friend oh yeah the car has had only 2 owners before me the 2nd been my friend! always maintain well, the car is meant to be a sleeper if u know what i mean.the car was meant to be 1 of a kind but then i got away with doing other cars such as bmw and porshes went with bigger engines and more power to see what i can do but all has come now to an end :(, getting married as i said and have a house coming so i dont need all the toys no more hey my lost your gain the car is a beauty but i do tell u it has alot of power and is not to take litely i really mean it! this car is a sleeper it needs a paint job and turn pipe or flex pipe and thats it! track rdy and street legal. u can have it now were it is at 12 pounds and 450HP 400 to the wheel or u can open it for the track to be at 980HP 930hp to the wheel, at shannonville it did with 12 pounds of boost low 10's. if u wanna know more give me a call at 416-857-1727 Dennis k bud GL!

WTF do staged clutches have to do with roleplaying games? LOL

It was actually more of a "Champagne", and I think they did it the year before you were born.

Hi there its Dennis again well here i found the beginning of the project with the talon when after doing the mods to the engine and bored,polished,pistons,trans,etc. mined u that this are from when i started, the stock color is gold. I took this pictures in 2001 when i 1st moved to Richmond Hill thats when i started the talon,then u know the story i guess with the girl u meet u engaged then i guess u start poping right!in a more rude way sry!lol anyhow getting back to the pics i have everything scatered cause i havent use this car or got back into it, i have done more BMW and porshes now kinda steped up if u can say wanted to try something new, it was my 2nd talon project succesfull but not finished, all the black spots u see around the car is were i sanded cause of reasons of small scratches, the car was taken downtown and got of course keyed as well as other cars but another story so i sanded all of that and primed it after all black to see how i was goin to do the finish job. but then i started other projects that gave me a bit more to do and left this poor baby on the side and then now engaged with mortgages and what not so all the fun has come to an end for me aldo i still do race :), street and track.to be honest this car i kept to be a perfect sleeper cause thats what it is, there is alot of cars out there but to many wanna bees, i have been racing for pinks for a long time before i got engaged so thats why i got a bit more serious and started to sell my projects well some of them. my lost your gain! i am not asking for much nore the work or materials that are in the car i just want what the engine cost and trans' thats it! the car is a bonus.trust me i have nothing to waste your time for, as i said the car needs 1. 1 more sand,prime 2. paint 3 custom trun pipe from cat to manifold just been lazy i never did it sry lol but its there lol! just like the way it sounded at the track without it! trust me this car is loud sounds louder then a stang but with a huge jet sound, the turbo is very loud well mind u i did tell u its a stage 4 turbo. so u see i dont want to waste no1's time nore mine thats why i say serious buyers and no test drives no more u buy as is the engine not the car the rest its all bonus to the person that gets it! if u do understand u would see that the price is there just for the quick sell why cause i have too many cars and gona get rid of all of them thats all! thats why i am giving them away for who ever gets them they will be very happy trust me i have a good reputation on track and off. well here they are enjoy and i will send u the pics that i will take later on the day to see how it looks now k, oh yeah! and 1 more thing the secrets and extra info of the engine and rest of the goodies that make this car a nice sleeper goes with the buyer only. confidential info

Well, the engine looks pretty clean, I mean if the car's just a bonus, it's the engine I am looking for!

I would like some technical specs about the engine/mods for it. Please complete the following list.

Turbo:
Compressor Trim on the Turbo
Compressor Inducer/Exducer size
Turbine Inducer/Exducer size
A/R of the Turbine Housing
Internal/External Wastegate, Brand if external and size/mount (V-Band flange or square)
Porting/Clipping of Turbine Wheel
Journal 360 Thrust? BB? DBB?

Intake:
Cold air?
MAF (GM MAF-T, 2G MAF or 1G MAF) and any hacking to it
Front Mount Intercooler size? (I don't see you have one, but maybe it's one of those "Confidential things) as well as piping and piping route
T-Body (BBK, Mustang, N/T, Bored 1G XX??mm etc...)
Doesn't look like it has an SMIM, so we know that's out

Fuel:
Chip Specs (Injector Compensation, Timing Curve, Stutterbox, NLTS, Anti-lag etc)
Fuel Injector size and brand
AFPR?
Fuel pump size and type (Inline or intake unit) and if a re-wire has been done to the pump

Engine:
Cam Specs (272, 280, 288 etc) and brand
Piston bore size and compression ratio
What machine shop did the porting and building of the engine?
Head specs (Springs/retainers, valve type etc)
Brand of Rods
Balance Shaft Elim?
Bearing specs?
6 bolt or 7 bolt?
Balance/Blueprint?

Exhaust:
Manifold type (FP, Tubular, Stock 1G etc... you know what I mean right?)
Vented or internal WG Dump?
3" Turbo-back?

Suspension/driveline
Type of shocks/struts and springs
Brand of clutch/flywheel and what clamping force it has? You say "Stage this and Stage that" but give me the technical specs man! I have a DSM that's setup to run low 12's/high 11's, so I know this stuff!!
Who built your tranny? Because if you've really raced this DSM, you would know that the stock tranny WILL NOT run 10s. Stage 4?? What the hell is stage 4? Does it have a taller 1st? Welded Center Diff? Upgraded synchros? What??
Upgraded Axles?

Maintenance:
Last time timing belt, water pump, and all related components were changed?
Brand of timing/cooling components? (Mitsu, Topline etc... )
Brand/weight of all fluids in the car.

Cooling: Well, sure as sh!t doesn't have an aluminum rad, or slim fans, so... hmm.. not much in that department.

Couple of unrelated I'm-sure-you-can-answer questions.

Where's the Dyno Sheet for you 980HP?
Slips of you running 10s on 12lbs of boost from what looks like the stock 1G 14b that can't breath on more than about 20 and put you into the 13's if you can drive?
Where the hell is your BOV? Have you just forgot to put it on? Or have you not been running one? If you haven't, the Turbo's TOAST.
What the hell is that you call an intercooler?
Where is the MAF?
Why are you still on the Cyclone intake? Why not slap a ported 1G Intake that will put you into the 10s?
Why do you talk in stages? Is this car from Forza Motorsports Showdown or is it from Need for Speed MW?
How the hell do you know what is going on in your engine with no gauges in the car? If you've been running this car time and time again down the track and on the streets like you say you have, why is the interior taken apart? Where is your monitoring? Do you use a pocket logger? Or is that more "Confidential" information? Maybe its a psychic car that tells you what's wrong with it or how it's reacting?

And last but not least:

Do you really think you're going to get 8500 for a stock engine that has more internal damage from your running it the way you have been? I mean, learn something about these cars dude. You are not going to get 8500 for it, and trust me man, I'm doing you a favour.

By the way, I have 2 DSMs, race every year, and have a sh!t load more mods on mine that you think you do yours. My engine is a JDM, and trust me, the most people have been able to put out on street trim is about 700hp. 980 gets you into the 9's if not 8's and that DOES NOT look like a 980hp motor. The turbo is too small. You know you have almost 1000hp when the turbo inlet is big enough to suck a small child through, and if you really knew anything about these cars, or tuning period, you would not talk in "Stages" because there is no such thing. Staging is referred to lining up at the lights on a track prior to racing.

So, thanks for the time, but man, I wouldn't give you $500 for that engine, it's probably toast if you've been running 24lbs of boost on that small oil cooler. Go to www.dsmtuners.com and look at the members rides in there, see what a 600WHP car REALLY looks like.

Good luck man, that's all I can say.

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