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Re: Spike dyno. take a guess. [Re: miguel barros] #262646
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Damn. That sucks Manuel. Sorry to hear. Hopefully the damage is not too bad.

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Oh man, now i feel like a dick.
It was supposed to be a joke, It did not blow up and i will pick it up today.

We only dialed 400whp, after fighting all the bugs spike still has problem with fuel, so untill i figure out what it is i will only be running those 400 awd at 19-20 psi.

Its very very strong, and with being that rich is very safe.

Sorry for the bad joke.

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See I knew it....

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so I guessed 382, was anyone closer?


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I said 420 and if this was The Price is Right (with Bob Barker, not that other dude cause I don't like his squinty face) then I think I'd have won with a guess of 420. Can't remember much about the rules though, maybe I'd have lost because I went over? I haven't seen the show in ages! tongue

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Originally Posted by Grant Redfern
so I guessed 382, was anyone closer?


Ha, in that case I was the closest @ 416 WHP.
Manuel, what kind of fuel issues are you having, too much or too little ?

Also, since you will be lapping the car it might be a better idea not to try to squeeze the most power out of it. 400 should be good enough smile


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The problem i was having with fuel is that there was black smoke at higer boost.

But then the wide bands keep telling us we were lean.
I am desapointed, i know that everything is there to make the power its just that the fuel problem is dragging us down.
We fix lots of little electrical proble that keep showing up, but the one with fuel we are unsure of what it is.

I will drive the car with that power for now and focus on the rest of the suspension.
I might go with a 30r instead.

Will see how i like it.
But is sure that i would hit the dyno again in a couple of months to see if i can fixed that problem.

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Originally Posted by Gates Perry
I said 420 and if this was The Price is Right (with Bob Barker, not that other dude cause I don't like his squinty face) then I think I'd have won with a guess of 420. Can't remember much about the rules though, maybe I'd have lost because I went over? I haven't seen the show in ages! tongue


Drew Cary is the new host, and price right rules are if you bid higher you lose.

And 400hp is still really good! tu

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Re: Spike dyno. take a guess. [Re: Rob Strelecki] #262696
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I beleive I was the closest. Lets define "base run" as being the first run without bugs, before tuning for more power tu

Originally Posted by Rob Strelecki
I think at least you will break 400 easily on the base run, and after well beyond that if this thread didn't jinx it.


Good job, Meanuel. I was hoping it was a joke.

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Originally Posted by Helder Dapont
ebay parts blow her up .. cry


Stop making fun of the guy and answer your phone bird

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Re: Spike dyno. take a guess. [Re: miguel barros] #262706
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What type of WB were you using? Have you confirmed its accurate operation vs another WB?


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Price is Right rules:

Contestant closest to the target number, WITHOUT going over.

Unless someone guessed 383-399, it looks like I was closest laugh


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Bah, there's no way he got 400 on the dot.
If he got between 400.1 and 420, then I WIN! bird

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But this ain't "Price is Right"
It is: "Spike dyno. take a guess"
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lol Reza why do you have to burst our bubble? tongue In any case, I am glad your car didn't really blow up dude. I kinda had a feeling from your very SHORT response that you weren't serious. tu


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Here is a pic of the ebay parts,
[Linked Image]
And here a lil video of the ebay parts not blowing on a 400whp pull.LOL.

[Linked Image]
Guys, the actual number was: 401whp at 20psi at 6000 rpm, the air fuel ratio was 13.46 by then and the car was pooring black smoke.
See whats my issue?.
The car had to stay again, we'll go for another round on monday.
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Such a nice engine bay real clean .


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Nice Manuel. Glad it was a joke! When you get your dyno tuning done you can post your plot in the dyno plot thread I tried to start last year!
-> http://www.ca.dsm.org/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showthreaded&Number=201514

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Nice engine bay and awesome dyno numbers at 20 psi.


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Originally Posted by Daren Peacock
What type of WB were you using? Have you confirmed its accurate operation vs another WB?


I am running an AEM wide band, when i was running the dsmlink was fine.
I dont know anymore, we found out that the faking coolant sensor its bad(falling apart) and i dont want to mention what shop put it in, but their race car is a black 1g.

Anyways that could be the problem, because without it the EMS will try to compensate with trwing more fuel.

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Hello Manuel.

Those are excellent numbers.

Let us know how things work after you replace that bad Coolant Sensor.

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I was really hoping I'd be dead wrong... Glad I was. 'Only' 400hp? I hate you. wink

Black smoke, but showing lean. I wonder if perhaps one injector is sticking open, running it rich on a single cylinder?

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Update.
So after i waet and pick up a coolant sensor from sergio's house this morning, i went to magnus and marco had already put in a GM sensor in it, and said that fix it and that he was not able to get at the car untill later afternoon.

So i went to the mall grab something to eat and came back around 7:30pm, we took the car to the dyno again, straped it, did a little run to log it and found out that the rich problem was fix.
Then did another run and found out that we where running to lean, after doing another pull and checked fuel pressure seems like the FUkin brand new 255High prssure walbro pump decide the take a dump.

This a fukin nightmare, i took the car just get it tune but this kind of bugs keep coming back.
Its been three weeks Fack.


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Hello.

Dyno tuning always reveal the car weak spot, which can be good.

Odds are that this Pump is the last part and she'll be just fine after that.

You'll be rocking in no time.

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Hang in the Manny. I'm sure you'll start to see the light at the end of the tunnel soon.

I know the exact feeling, trust me. My car has beem a fackin' nightmare from the day I bought it. Forward 5 months later, nice weather is upon us and the car sits in the garage again. These cars are either on or off there's no in between.

P.S. If you don't have any use for the coolant temp sensor, I'll gladly take it back and refund your money smile


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Thank you guys,
I think i am more pissed about the fact that its so hard to get marco on the dyno because he is so damn busy, and when we finally get him there, he does tow pulls and some little damn thing goes.
Even when everybody there has been very helpfull, Bruno the "new" mechanic, sean and even marco have so much patience with me and spike, I just want to get out of there.
I feel like i friking live there.

Its ok miguel i will keep the sensor.
I migth use it......you know.

-Manuel

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So, Here are the final whp an boost numbers.
We finally finished all the little problems and put the did tuning today.

Spike ran 423whp at 25psi.
Its running nice and strong, it feel just fakin amazing.
Full boost at 4300rpm.
Not bad for the ol good 94 sunoco gas.

So who won?

-Manuel

Thanks to the guys at MAGNUS MOTORSPORTS.
After they dealt with me for more than three weeks figuring out bugs and issues, and 50 plus dino pulls,
they finally help me get spike to run some decent power on the safe side.
Thanks to Bruno, Marco and Sean.




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Congrats, Manny. And hats off to Marco and crew... That should put more than 500hp at the crank. MUST feel amazing when you put your foot down.

Again, damned glad I was wrong. Just keep watching those guages. wink

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I said 420 wink Congrats Manny, those numbers are nice!


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good job, I'd love to be pushing that type of power through all four wheels.


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Not bad Spike! With a GT35R, I think you should be making a little more at 25psi, but then again its not that bad for just 94 octane. As a tuner I think they have tuned your car to be on the safe side, which is good for the lapping that your car will be seeing.


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Congrats Manny!

Yeah, same as what Reza said. Unless you throw some Meth into that beast to keep the knock down, they tuned it on the safe side.


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Cool Many, cool.

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on a DSM, how much of that power is useable?

can you even give it full throttle in a road setting?


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Yes,
Marco was very please.
See,You hear all of this people oh 35r this and 35r but is not untill you hit the dyno that you relise how much pump gas can hold you back.
But beleave me 423 at 6000rpm and full boost at 4300, feels real good.
Like marco said "Spike feels like Fackin rocket", and i agreed with him.
And yes we tune on the safe side, Lapping would be harder on the car than doing quarter mile, And well i want at least to last me
This season.

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Originally Posted by manuel salazar

See,You hear all of this people oh 35r this and 35r but is not untill you hit the dyno that you relise how much pump gas can hold you back.


We told you so near the beginning of this thread smile


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Re: Spike dyno. take a guess. [Re: Reza Mirza] #264039
April 30, 2008 03:56 pm UTC
April 30, 2008 03:56 pm UTC
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No-Lift-To-Shift.... Stock. :)
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No-Lift-To-Shift.... Stock. :)
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I would love to see what Spike can do on C16! laugh


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