Just Chipped The S4
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October 07, 2008 05:15 pm UTC
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Grant Redfern
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GIAC X Chip with adaptive tuning. When the car is started, the ECU takes a minute to determine type of fuel in the car (91/94/100) and adjusts a/f, timing and boost levels accordingly (boost is electronically controlled in my car). End result with 94 octane is ~320hp, 385tq @ 18psi; up from 250hp/260tq @ 7psi stock. With race gas, guys are getting an extra 10hp and close to 20 ft/lbs. To say it now feels like a completely different car would be a huge understatement. It's now the first car I've owned that litereally sucks you into the back of the seat when accelerating. I cannot fathom why the car did not come stock like this. Now where can I get me some race gas?
6-MT Stage II B5 Audi S4
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Re: Just Chipped The S4
[Re: Joe Esmama]
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October 07, 2008 09:53 pm UTC
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Brian Fernandez
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It's now the first car I've owned that litereally sucks you into the back of the seat when accelerating. Can i get a ride?? I'll buy you a tank of 94's . Or just call up REZA! j/k. Where did you get it done Grant? How is the clutch holding up with all that torque??
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Re: Just Chipped The S4
[Re: Brian Fernandez]
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October 07, 2008 11:00 pm UTC
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Troy Jollimore
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Pah. Doable with the Talon, and for a lot less. You know why the car didn't come tuned like that stock. Stupid people that dump 87 Octane fuel into their high-performance car, don't change the oil for 50k kms, and are just generally abusive. All while expecting full factory warranty support. *Sigh* Can't wait until I get my chip installed next year. 150hp is KILLING me!
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Re: Just Chipped The S4
[Re: Rob Strelecki]
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October 08, 2008 04:34 pm UTC
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Troy Jollimore
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Heh. Still can't compare to the 1G DSMs... Just crank the boost up on the stock turbo to 18psi and adjust with an S-AFC, and you'd probably get gains close to that. I've got an APR 93 Octane chip (same as you, used full ECU for an easy swap). Supposed to take mine to 200-210hp, ~200lb/ft torque (DSM stock ) from 150hp. I'm not working with a V6 twin-turbo, though...
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Re: Just Chipped The S4
[Re: Rob Strelecki]
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October 08, 2008 07:09 pm UTC
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Brian Wylie
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This is where I get my 110 ocatane from all the time for the Road Runner. As someone else already said, all you need is a regular gas can, just as if your trasporting gas for a lawn mower. Only thing to becarefull about is that the gas evaporates alot faster, so make sure you have both the caps tight as can be... as well as don't leave it in the sun for long and then try and open it. If you do leave it in the sun...just looking at the container alone will give you a hint to not open it lol.
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Re: Just Chipped The S4
[Re: Joe Esmama]
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October 08, 2008 09:07 pm UTC
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Brandon Clement
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Damn Grant, that's extremely sexy. All that new technology is amazing though. All us DSM owners are suckers having to tune our cars ourselves, your car tunes it while you're drinking a latte from starbucks
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Re: Just Chipped The S4
[Re: Grant Redfern]
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October 09, 2008 01:14 am UTC
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Brandon Clement
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Seafoam = overrated from what I've heard.
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Re: Just Chipped The S4
[Re: Brandon Clement]
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October 09, 2008 12:00 pm UTC
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Troy Jollimore
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It's overly-exagerated in the VW world, especially since motors like my 1.8t are so prone to coking/sludge. Most VW people don't have a CLUE about the real workings of turbo cars compared to this DSM crowd. The 'chip' is exactly what Rob said it is, a way to get more power without really getting your hands dirty. But they charge you an arm and a leg for it and largely, IT'S NOT USER ADJUSTABLE. Anyone who ever cracks the CPU code immediately re-encrypts it so it can't be copied, so they can re-sell it for a similar markup. WAY unlike the multitude of tools available to tune DSMs. The VW chips are SO restrictive that they don't even permit MBCs (to a point) or ANY type of 'add-on' devices, like an S-AFC or whatnot. Want a bigger turbo (VW guys consider a T25 big.)? Prepare to pay $1000 for a completely new program. It's not that the concept of a 'chip' is bad, but it was tried in the DSM world (remember JET?) and rejected. With extra control, you can get so much MORE power for your money... There are some manual tools, like Lemmiwinks, but 'the crowd' immediately screams, "NO! You might hurt something!!!"
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Re: Just Chipped The S4
[Re: Troy Jollimore]
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October 09, 2008 02:36 pm UTC
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Grant Redfern
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My GIAC X chip is actually configureable using my VAG-COM software.
However, given that they are the engineers who spent hundreds of hours tuning this and I sell auto insurace, I'm going to pretty much leave it alone, haha. I just log to make sure everything is running as it should.
As for the Seafoam, trust me, I'm not expecting a night/day difference - I just want a nice, clean start with the engine. It's been drivin for 9 years and 139K now so I'm sure there are some unhealthy deposits built up inside, that's all.
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Re: Just Chipped The S4
[Re: Grant Redfern]
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October 15, 2008 01:36 pm UTC
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Michael Zeppieri
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My GIAC X chip is actually configureable using my VAG-COM software. Grant, you're my new best friend! I bought a Jetta that kicked me some codes that I can't read with my OBD-II scanner, and I was hoping I could find someone with the VAG-COM software in Toronto. I would by it myself, but that would mean paying more for the software than the car Can I run the car by you some day?
Last edited by Michael Zeppieri; October 15, 2008 01:36 pm UTC.
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Re: Just Chipped The S4
[Re: Michael Zeppieri]
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October 15, 2008 04:09 pm UTC
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Troy Jollimore
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Typical DSMer mooch. Not so, Mike. If all you want to do is read and reset the codes (most of them, at least) than all you'll need is the shareware VAG-COM software and a $30 EBay cable. The problem comes in finding a notebook to run it, or you could use a REALLY long serial cable to a desktop PC.
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Re: Just Chipped The S4
[Re: Rob Strelecki]
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October 15, 2008 09:16 pm UTC
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Grant Redfern
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Dennis - that's the 2010 goal
Michael - sure, I just cleared 2 fault codes from my buddy's 02 TDI so he can go get his etest done now. PM me with your availability.
Troy - ya, my cable was only $20 and I'm using the shareware version of the software. I was thinking of buying a license as it's only $99
Rob - I swear, no matter how many times I say it or read it, I ALWAYS chuckle to myself afterwards.
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Re: Just Chipped The S4
[Re: Michael Zeppieri]
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October 16, 2008 01:21 pm UTC
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Troy Jollimore
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What would that do, Todd? The last guy that saw my car and disconnected his wastegate (clamped it, actually) to try and imitate it ended up blowing his motor sky-high...
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Re: Just Chipped The S4
[Re: Troy Jollimore]
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October 16, 2008 07:35 pm UTC
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