Nick Vieira - Bad Guy ( possibly )
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February 07, 2009 05:52 pm UTC
February 07, 2009 05:52 pm UTC
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Derek Rose
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I bought an Evo III turbo off Nick Vieira Jan 28, 2009. I specifically asked " there is nothing wrong with it and no excess shaft play? ". He claimed it was tight and a perfect turbo. Only a year old and verified by a turbo shop to be perfect. I sent him the money and he shipped the turbo. When I got it, I discovered significant movement back and forth between the hot side and cold side. He claimed he knew of that movement and said it was fine, but he'd give me my money back if I wanted. I told him I'd check with a few people to make sure I wasn't wrong in thinking that turbo was shot. After posting on here, I determined I didn't want to take a chance. He said no problem at all and even apologized for the inconvenience. He asked what e-mail address to send the money to and he'd send it right away. That was this past Tues. I discovered on Wed morning that all of his posts had been removed from my trail of PM's between us. He has not responded to any of my messages since, but he has read them. Under every PM I've sent him, it says " Unread by : None ". Up until Wed, he seemed like a great stand up guy that was willing to make things right, and I was very happy to see him being so cooperative and understanding. Now I think he set out to rip me off from the get go. If anyone knows him or can talk him into giving me back my money, I'd happily remove this thread, I didn't want to post it, but he's clearly ignoring me. Here is my side of the PM's we've sent back and forth so people can get an idea of how the conversation went between us:
#132564 - January, 15 2009 06:23 PM turbo Derek Rose
I'd give you $x for that turbo. ----- #132794 - January, 17 2009 04:16 PM Re: turbo Derek Rose
I don't need a header, just the turbo. I"m in Charlottetown, PE. Postal code is xxxxx ----- #134334 - January, 27 2009 09:39 PM Re: turbo Derek Rose
yes, I'm going on the assumption there is nothing wrong with it and no excess shaft play? --- #134377 - January, 28 2009 08:15 AM Re: turbo Derek Rose
I'll do $x shipped ---- #134401 - January, 28 2009 12:30 PM Re: turbo Derek Rose I've never heard of moneygram, and I don't think we have a western union here..haha.. What about e-mail transfer? If you do online banking it costs you nothing and it's quick ---- #134405 - January, 28 2009 12:56 PM Re: turbo Derek Rose
I send you the money. You get an e-mail saying I've sent you money and asking you to click on a link. When you click on the link, it asks you to choose which bank you deal with. Once you choose the bank, you log in as normal and it asks where you want the money to be deposited. There is a secret question/password that ensures the person is the intended recepient. I'll send you the question/password on here so you can copy and paste the password. The picture you put up shows the oil return line connected to the turbo... could you unbolt it and just lay it in the box with teh turbo? I don't want to have unnecessary stress on it and have it crack or something. thanks. ----- #134408 - January, 28 2009 01:04 PM Re: turbo Derek Rose
Interac Email Money Transfer Sent
January 28, 2009, at 1:03 p.m. E.T.
Recipient's Name Nick Vieira Recipient's Email Address: nv5000@hotmail.com From Powerchequing - ***** Amount $ xxx.xx
Reference # ----- #134409 - January, 28 2009 01:05 PM Re: turbo Derek Rose
* gave my address for him to mail to * ----
#134961 - February, 02 2009 04:32 PM Re: turbo Derek Rose
Got the turbo today. I'm not overly pleased. There is considerable back and forth movement of the shaft. I checked my old turbo that I took off my car and there is virtually no movement back and forth at all on that one. We need to find a solution to this. ----- #134973 - February, 02 2009 05:06 PM Re: turbo Derek Rose
I've checked with other members and they confirm this turbo is toast. I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you didn't know. I'd like my money back asap -----
#135058 - February, 02 2009 08:15 PM Re: turbo Derek Rose
what do you mean by 'modified' MHI turbo? I asked the guys on the board, and a local tuner with over 500 hp on his eclipse, and everyone is saying NO movement is allowed back and forth. Could you explain why back and forth is allowed on this turbo and not on 'normal' Evo III turbos? I don't want this to be a bad deal for either of us, but I'm getting leary of it. ------
#135072 - February, 02 2009 09:24 PM Re: turbo Derek Rose
I'm just trying to get as much information as possible from people. We dont' have a turbo shop around here. My father has been a mechanic for 24 years on heavy equipment and he thinks it's a little much for movement, but he's never worked with turbos this small. Everyone on the board and the ppl on my msn are saying there should be no movement. Like I said earlier, I don't want to send it back if it's good, but I'm having trouble finding people who will even entertain the idea that that much back and forth movement would be acceptable. I'll wait for other people to weigh in on my post ( I haven't mentioned your name, I don't want to cause problems, I just want to be comfortable with the turbo I put on the car ). I really appreciate your willingness to take the turbo back and I'll let you know tomorrow. thanks ----
#135136 - February, 03 2009 07:44 AM Re: turbo Derek Rose
ya, I think I'm going to go ahead and get my money back. This probably seems silly to you given your position that the turbo is perfectly fine, and for that I apologize. I just would be constantly paranoid about it if I put it on. thanks. -----
#135180 - February, 03 2009 12:32 PM Re: turbo Derek Rose
Hey Nick,
You can send the money to * my e-mail address *
Assuming the money gets to me tonight, I'll mail the turbo back first thing tomorrow morning.
Thanks for being understanding on this. ------ #135347 - February, 04 2009 09:43 AM Re: turbo Derek Rose
Morning. Just wanted to make sure you sent the money to the right address if you've sent it yet. I haven't recieved anything yet. Just wanted to check in.
thanks ------- #135463 - February, 04 2009 09:49 PM Re: turbo Derek Rose
Hey... It's now more than 24 hrs after when you said you were going to send the money. Getting a bit nervous here..haha. Could you send me a message to let me know when I can expect it? thanks -----
#135565 - February, 05 2009 03:44 PM Re: turbo Derek Rose
I can see that you've read every one of my messages. I'm not sure why you're not responding. Please let me know when I can expect the money back. If for some reason you've changed your mind about giving me my money back, let me know. thanks. ---- #135730 - Yesterday at 07:35 PM Re: turbo Derek Rose
Please let me know when to expect the money. Give me some response here. The turbo is boxed up and ready to be sent back.
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Re: Nick Vieira - Bad Guy ( possibly )
[Re: Mike Kuttschrutter]
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February 07, 2009 09:58 pm UTC
February 07, 2009 09:58 pm UTC
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Ziggy Dietrich
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The way I read the timeline, he bought the car in October, and in November realized turbo was blown, and bought a replacement. Car was then crashed in January....and he started parting out...that all makes perfect sense to me.
I didn't see the post where he said he bought the turbo a year ago. Maybe two months FELT like a year ago?
I don't know this guy at all, but I don't see anything fishy about the timeline...
"bluebird" worlds fastest scooter ridden by me "Whitebird" RIP
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Re: Nick Vieira - Bad Guy ( possibly )
[Re: Derek Rose]
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February 09, 2009 03:17 am UTC
February 09, 2009 03:17 am UTC
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Tony Messere
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If you have his address(sender adress on the package) why dont you go to canada 411 and do a reverse address look up. Heres the link. http://www.canada411.ca/search/address.htmlThen call his house and tell his mom/wife (whichever he has) what a dishonest boy he has been.
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Re: Nick Vieira - Bad Guy ( possibly )
[Re: Jay Warwick (Pham)]
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February 10, 2009 01:25 am UTC
February 10, 2009 01:25 am UTC
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Nick Vieira
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First of all i would like to thank Tashko and Ziggy, for there advise on not jumping to conclusions, within the past week i have had to deal with some serious personal issues... not to say i haven't read some of the PM's from Derek, but i am currently having difficulties sending or receiving PM's to other members. I am extremely upset at my name being flamed on the board, anyone who has had any sort of dealings with me within the short time i've been a member can vouch for the kind of person i am. I've never had a problem untill now! Having said that the turbo is perfectly fine, why do you not go and read up from proper resourses what turbo shaft play really is and don't tell me that from the opinions of other people there should be zero tolerance, and the minimal play it does have is excessive, i also did not mention to you that it was TIGHT as you would like to say, just that is was fine which i guess was a mistake on my part. I've installed other 16g's 14b's which had the same amount of play in it if not more from new and a GT35 which had more, your're making it sound like the compressor wheel is touching the walls which is by far not the case. To add the turbo has been sitting on my bench for the past few months draining, there is no oil in it, the moment the passages fill up with oil that tiny movement you see will be virtually gone, thats what its there for. I bought this turbo new with the car i had for a short time previously before i became a member of the board which was scrapped due to rust issues, form a friend who decided not to use it in order to upgrade to a bigger turbo. Hence the reason for it being a year old. I was at one point willing to take the turbo back but have changed my mind.
Before making my adress public i strongly suggest you learn the legal aspect of what it is your claiming to go and do, not to mention i still have yours!
Last edited by Nick Vieira; February 10, 2009 01:28 am UTC.
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Re: Nick Vieira - Bad Guy ( possibly )
[Re: Grant Redfern]
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February 10, 2009 03:56 pm UTC
February 10, 2009 03:56 pm UTC
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Ziggy Dietrich
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I am inclined to agree....if the turbo really IS fine, buy it back....without paying the shipping, of course....and re-sell it to someone else...you lose nothing, and gain in reputation..
"bluebird" worlds fastest scooter ridden by me "Whitebird" RIP
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Re: Nick Vieira - Bad Guy ( possibly )
[Re: Murtaza Saadat]
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February 10, 2009 06:38 pm UTC
February 10, 2009 06:38 pm UTC
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Derek Rose
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IMO, IF he was to refund the money what are the chances that he could sell he turbo again? His name and the turbo have already been brought down. Even if the turbo is perfectly fine, how many people would buy it after seeing this thread? This is not the only board on the internet where one can sell a turbo. He could also have someone locally buy it as he considers it a perfectly good turbo and thusly the person could confirm for themselves that it's a great turbo before buying it off of him.
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Re: Nick Vieira - Bad Guy ( possibly )
[Re: Ziggy Dietrich]
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February 10, 2009 08:06 pm UTC
February 10, 2009 08:06 pm UTC
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Reza Mirza
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I would NOT buy any Mitsu turbo with side to side play. Yes your right it will still work fine, but any play means that the bearing is going south. Whichever turbo rebuild shop that told you it was normal, is plain out retarded.
Care to tell us what shop that is, so no one here sends their turbo there for an inspection or rebuild ?
Also, don't compare the play from a regular turbo with that of a dual ball bearing GT35. Journal bearing should have no in/out play, whereas for a ball bearing turbo it is normal.
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