I see this topic has been brought up several times on here, and on a handful of other sites as well. But this forum seems to have the most info about it, so I wanted to run all this past you all who seem to be the experts. I've read up on this for the past few days, and am getting ready to start sourcing all the parts to make my kit. I wanted to put up exactly what I'm going to be getting, and just make sure that you all agree that I'm on the right path here.

First thing I actually want to ask though, is can anyone specify exactly what year Cobras I need to limit myself too? I've found a whole bunch of different answers to this. 94-04, 94-98, and so on... Can anyone confidently answer this accurately? Part of me has a hard time believing 94-04 is correct, because when I search on Napa's site, they call out different numbers for the calipers starting in 1999. So how can any of them from 94-04 work, when part numbers changed which indicate to me that something has changed in the design.

Example:
97 Cobra - Left Front Caliper - Part Number SDC2424144
http://napaonline.com/MasterPages/NOLMaster.aspx?PageId=470&LineCode=SDC&PartNumber=2424144&Description=Brake+Caliper+w%2f+Hardware+-+Left+Front+(Semi-Loaded)+-+Remfd

99 Cobra - Left Front Caliper - Part Number SDC2424216
http://napaonline.com/MasterPages/NOLMaster.aspx?PageId=470&LineCode=SDC&PartNumber=2424216&Description=Brake+Caliper+w%2f+Hardware+-+Left+Front+(Semi-Loaded)+-+Remfd

So which of these am I supposed to be getting?

As for the mounting brackets, I plan to get the bracket kit from Ziggy.

Rotors and Calipers I will simply try and find the cheapest source of them that I can. I don't care if they say Cobra or not on them. I'm a hard core bargain shopper so I'll probably be spending a week or so trying to find the best deals I can.

Then I need the lines. My car is a 1G so I'm not completely clear on what lines I need. But from what I gather, I can just buy 2G lines. Again from what I've read, it sounds like they will be able to replace my old stock 1G line without any adapters on the 'master cylinder' side of the line, and they have the banjo fitting on the caliper end on the 'caliper' end of the line. Then just use the standard Banjo Bolt for the Cobra Calipers. Does that sound correct?

This is what I've gathered so far from the few days of research I've done so far. I'm trying to do the research before hand so I don't just come in saying "tell me how to do it k thanks". So I've done a good bit research, but there is a lot of BS out there along with the good info. So I'm just looking for a little assurance that I'm on the right path here because it's sometimes hard to decipher the good info from the BS.

Thanks for anyone's help in advance, I really appreciate it. I just really need to get going on this because my stock 1G single piston stuff isn't too happy with slowing down after trapping 130+

And for fun, here is why I'm needing to upgrade. These stockers are just not working out too well anymore. Look at all those little hotspots...
http://www.mitsustyle.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=8796&d=1244081080.jpg

I've read that these calipers were also used on C4 Vette's, but have avoided those because it seems like a lot of those have a higher price tag than the Cobra parts, maybe because they say Corvette on them?

Anyhow, I found this, where the guy used Camaro Calipers. Does anyone know if those are the same as the Cobra ones? Might be another option for me to check out to see if they are priced better...
http://www.galantvr4.org/ubbthreads...286049&page=0&fpart=1#Post448720

Welcome - From looking at you NAPA links I noticed that it did not show front calipers for the 2003 Cobra's. I'm pretty sure most people doing the conversion are using those calipers. I will be using 2004(same thing). Are the 99 Cobra calipers the same? I don't know. They appear to be differ by looking in the pics on the site. Will they work maybe - they also use a 13" rotor - so I can't see why not.

I'll put up more info on here as I find out more myself as I continue to research this to death.


Cobra Calipers should be seperated into 2 groups. (94-98 and 99-04).

Dimension wise they are the same. The difference between them is simply the size of the pistons.

Cobra 94-98 = 38mm Pistons
Cobra 99-04 = 40mm Pistons.

Here's a quick link to one example:
http://forums.corral.net/forums/showthread.php?p=8176637

So it looks like either will work, just a minor change in piston size.

So I'm pretty sure I have everything sourced out now, except the brake lines.

Can anyone verify exactly what I need for brake lines? Again my car is a 1G. If I get some SS Braided front lines for a 2G, will those work?

Yes, you need the 2g lines

Or an adaptor that is found on FWD rear calipers that converts the banjo bolt to the inverted flare seal. Thats what I use.

I just bought a Baer Track kit (same as the Cobra brakes) that was originally on a 1G and the SS lines included were about half as long as what I needed. I had a set of 2G SS lines that fit perfectly. I'm not sure how the 1G is setup but I think there's two seperate flex hoses with a bit of hard line in the middle mounted to the knuckle. The 2G line should work though but you will need to figure out how to mount the bracket to the knuckle.

I am no expert here, but I have a set of lines that might be exactly what you are looking for. These were "specials" made up for people putting 2g calipers on a 1g car. $159.95.

Would any of you be willing to take pictures of what your lines look like?

From what I'm gathering, the "master cylinder" side of the lines are the same. They are a female fitting.

Then the caliper end is what is different. The 1G's have a fitting, while the 2G's have a banjo style.

It also appears the 2G lines are quite a bit longer.

Anyhow, I can't find any good pictures of these. So if anyone has pictures, please post em up!

So just to make sure I understand you correctly. All this is a a little adapter fitting that screws right into the caliper, and allows normal 1G lines to work, no 2G banjo style lines required?

Well I just put in my first order. Picked up a set of Cobra Calipers, Banjo Bolts, and Pads from here for $262 shipped. That site right now appears to have stuff on clearance, and has the best prices on Calipers I have found. Better than Ebay even.

http://www.buyfordracing.com/shop/product_info.php?products_id=671cPath=6

I could have saved $30 by just getting their Bullitt calipers, but after a long hard thought, I just don't want a picture of a pony on my car. So I spent the $30 to get the Cobra ones

Next I will be purchasing the kit from Ziggy, and then start looking at which Rotors I'm going to go with, and lastly figure out the line situation.

Just purchased the kit from Ziggy.

Correct, it an adaptor that is used just on FWD rear calipers to convert banjo to a 1g front flare fitting. thisway you can use your existing 1g lines

Mike,

Is this an OEM part or an Earls part? Would you by any chance have a part number?

Thanks,
Ziggy

MB004539 Joint, Rear Brake Tube. Discontinued @ Chrysler.

I just ordered up a set of 2G front SS brake lines for 40 shipped. We'll see if they work.

Also that fitting your reffering to, is that a FWD 1G or FWD 2G?

Well I just went through caps and found they come on the 1G FWD. I'm going to call up our local Mitsu dealer tomorrow and see if they have any.

Here is a picture from CAPS that might help someone in the future.

http://www.mitsustyle.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=8824&d=1244773221

I'm piggybacking on your research Where did you buy the lines?

http://gtautosport.com/

They don't have much of a site. But you can email them at
LeoLam@infintrading.com

They sell complete line kits on ebay also:
http://cgi.ebay.ca/SS-Brake-Lines-Mitsubishi-Eclipse-94-95-96-97-98-99_W0QQitemZ260413603505QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item3ca1dc3eb1&_trksid=p4634.c0.m14.l1262&_trkparms=|301%3A1|293%3A1|294%3A30

I didn't want the full kit though, as I'm trying to focus only on the fronts right now, and compare the cost of making this kit vs. a Baer kit, and I don't believe the Baers come with rear lines.

Good thing about these lines is they have an outer layer over the SS Braiding to help protect them from dirt entering them.

And again, at this point, I am NOT 100% sure that 2G lines will work. I have a feeling they may be too long (which I suppose is better than too short ha). So we will see once they show up.

Otherwise, that fitting they are referring to, looks like it comes on 1G FWD rear calipers, as well as older Mirage rear calipers as well from what I've seen searching CAPS. I'm going to see if my local mitsu dealer has them. If not, I like 1 mile from one of the largest junk yards in the Twin Cities. I don't work tomorrow so I may go out there and crawl around and see if some galants or diamantes have those also. Because if that works, then you can just keep your stock lines, or just upgrade to 1G SS lines, that is as the stock lines reach the new caliper hole...

Good luck, I hope some of this helps you out. It would be nice if there was just a VFAQ somewhere on how to do this. I find myself scouring a few different boards, and a few different threads, to find all the info. No single thread has ALL the info, in detail, to do this that I've found thus far. So this should hopefully help someone someday hopefully.

Have you boughten anything yet?

Also, looks like my calipers have already shipped That was quick!!

Mitsu still carries those fittings, but they are $25 each. So if I have some spare time today, I'm just going to go rummage through the junkyard and see what I find.

There used to be lot of info on this board before it got an overhaul some time ago. Nick, the guy who originally made the brackets many years ago fitted Boxster calipers on his car, those were massive.

I've been eyeing this upgrade for a while, but never got around to it. You got me thinking about it again, so I ordered a set of calipers yesterday and they show shipped this morning.

Let us know how the lines work out.

Will do. The lines are supposed to ship out today.

Just got back from the junk yard. They had 3 Galants and that was it for Mitsu's

According to my research, they should be UNDER $17. USD each. I think I will order a couple in.

Our local dealer here is a sponsor of our forums, and our "club" gets a discount there. That's what they quoted me at. Wierd.

Anyhow, the difference between purchasing the fittings, or just 2G lines, is about equal. So hopefully these 2G lines just work. You guys should start selling the lines along with your brackets

Actually, If I could get all the proper feedback, I would LOVE to piece together a COMPLETE kit...with calipers, rotors, lines, AND the screws needed to install them. so far, no-one who has bought the kit has gotten back to me afterwards with the exact length of screws needed...

I think we definately need some sort of cost effective brake kit for 2gs. Is the cobra swap easier or harder on 2g? We already have the lines....
What do you guys do about the dust sheild when you get bigger brakes? I broke a bolt trying to get mine off BEFORE realizing the hub is in the way. Now that side that is oppisite the caliper isnt secured and rubs the disc and is annoying. I dont feel like going to the trouble of taking the hub off to drill the bolt out though. But yeah with bigger brakes do you even run a sheild?

Mike I dont run a shield with my "small brakes"
I have yet to exceed the limits to go to a larger brake so I am still running stock sized, abet Powerslot rotors, SS lines, and Hawk HP+ pads.

From searching I've seen people both cut the shields, or just remove them completely. I personally plan on just removing the things.

Ziggy, I'll keep posting up everything I find, in here. Hopefully it'll help.

On my local forum I'm keeping track of everything I've bought, from where, and how much I've paid. When I'm done I'll post all that over here if you'd like.

But I hear ya on trying to find the proper feedback. No one spot has all the info. I've probably spent a good 40hrs. researching the topic, all over the place. And am hoping to be able to get all the info in one spot. Then write up some sort of VFAQ so everyone can see the info in one spot from here on out.

It shouldn't really be all that different. You'll use the same components, except for your brake lines may differ. If I find out my 2G lines I bought work, well then hell you might not even need lines.

Im going to start looking at the brake threads on tuners when Im bored. They always help!
Whats the con to no dust shields? Like they are there to keep the backside of the brakes clean. If you remove them they are going to be a mess all the time. Next time the wheels are off I might just cut the one side so I can slide it off. The rubbing noise gets annoying. I just figured its one of the things the car came with so it should be left that way.

I've searched Tuners, Talk, Link, my local forum, here. I've been looking everywhere. There is info out there, just gotta dig for it!!

the best way to come to a stop quickly is to not weigh that much to begin with. 2gs already have pretty good brakes. try ceramic materials, your rotors will glow in the dark.

In order to come up with a cost effective setup is to custom fit a popular application to our cars. preferably from faster, heavier cars: ie mustangs, f bodies, corvettes, supras, etc...

you only need to manufactures adapters (aka caliper brackets). It's not as easy as it sounds though...

My dad actually aquired a milling machine for free but its not running yet. He used to be a machinist. Can you say free adapters anyone

I'm curious how the Ziggy brackets came to be the way they are. There was someone on another forum selling an entire Cobra brake setup (minus the lines), and his adapter brackets looked completely different.

http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc310/bh_4000/forsale/brake1.jpg

http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc310/bh_4000/forsale/brake2.jpg

And hey thanks a lot. Bring up free brackets AFTER I already buy some j/k

Mike, if your dad is willing to do these for free, boy, have I got a job for him....and i hope his free milling machine is a CNC..LOL

Anyways, Not sure about those others in the picture. They almost look like aluminum? I know the "raised" portion around the holes....that is what the spacers in my kit are for. It is just a lot cheaper to make them with spacers instead of machining away everything BUT that area from a much thicker piece of steel.

I think they just didn't cut out the outside shape the way mine are..you will probably find the hole spacing is the same.

These were originally designed by Nick Boers, our resident brakes guru and mechanical engineer. He got too busy to make them, or lost interest, or his priorities changed....either way, he gave me the design and permission to make them using his info.

My dads got about 6 CNC machines and is very experianced, but he doesent work for free,
I asked him abuot adapters, and he just said buy em, its not worth the time for a small QTY.