JDM's aren't what they used to be?
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June 27, 2009 11:11 pm UTC
June 27, 2009 11:11 pm UTC
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Chris Poe
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4 years ago my friend's engine blew.. I got a JDM with him and put it in.. It was one of the best looking engines I've ever seen, totally clean and really looked like it had 20k or 30k on it!.. probably had more but the exhaust manifold cover still had the brownish color without any discoloration. I think the more heat that cover takes the worst it looks so it's a good wear indicator.
Today I went to Tiger Japanese auto parts and saw about eight 4G63 turbos.. they all looked horrible. I'll estimate an absolute minimum 100k.. and some looked worse than my 320k ..
The oil cap revealed sludge/copper colored staining of the head material in all of them except one. Does the head turn golden with time or is it the type of oil people use? I have used once a engine oil treatment that turned the color of the head to a golden/copper color so I thought that was the reason. When I checked these engines, they were all like that except for the one.
Of course the one that looked practically new with no staining under the cap had to have some problem.. Pulled the turbo inlet pipe off and a cup of oil came out!! I guess the guy blew the turbo and just scrapped the car.. I just ran out of there.. I can put my $1600 toward a rebuild and make sure I get something decent in the end.
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Re: JDM's aren't what they used to be?
[Re: Brian Fernandez]
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June 27, 2009 11:21 pm UTC
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Brandon Clement
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In the end, rebuilding your motor will prove to be more reliable than buying some used engine. At least you will know when all your stuff was done, and what parts were used.
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Re: JDM's aren't what they used to be?
[Re: Brandon Clement]
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June 28, 2009 12:50 am UTC
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Ghislain Goudreau
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One should defenately remember that a JDM Engine is nothing but a used Engine. We used to be able to find good one but the hype got the best of them.
Now a days; JDM Engine are just like a box of chocolate; you no longer know what cho gonna get!!! Well, unless you pay premium from a reputable shop.
Like Brandon mentioned; you better rebuild your own. It would then all be like a cherry blosom!!!
Ghislain.
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Re: JDM's aren't what they used to be?
[Re: Anthony Hiscock]
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June 28, 2009 03:17 pm UTC
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Jay Warwick (Pham)
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Just reading the title of this post, and before reading the original post, I was going to say
"It's places like Tiger Jap that are bringing down the JDM scene"
As stated before, they are known for there sketchy-ness.
Last edited by Jay Pham; June 28, 2009 03:18 pm UTC.
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Re: JDM's aren't what they used to be?
[Re: Jay Warwick (Pham)]
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June 28, 2009 03:22 pm UTC
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Brandon Clement
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When I first was looking at buying an MR2, I went there and checked out their white one. It was actually in decent shape and low kms. Engine ran good and it didn't seem all that bad. I did notice all of their engines are beat to hell tho, just kinda tossed around, and it looks like they import so many that they don't really care.
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Re: JDM's aren't what they used to be?
[Re: Brandon Clement]
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June 28, 2009 03:24 pm UTC
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Nigel Smith
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JDM engines are so hit and miss, some of them appear to be great while others neglected beyone belief. I have only ever purchased one complete with transmission etc.. I think I paid 1700 for everything, and without a doubt that was the best engine/tranny combo I have ever experienced in any DSM.
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Re: JDM's aren't what they used to be?
[Re: Chris Poe]
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June 30, 2009 09:00 pm UTC
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Paul Bebnowski
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i must agree tiger is sh!t, i only bought a tranny off them (dirty as hell but works) The transfer case that came with the tranny started leaking and when i came back to the guy that sold me it, he said he cant switch it because its passed the 30 day warranty and if i wanted to buy one off them it was going to be like 250 bux lol.
Also the guy that works in the warehouse tryed to sell me the brackets for the tranny for like 20 extra bux, i told him to go fuk himself.. they are scammers!
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Re: JDM's aren't what they used to be?
[Re: Chris Poe]
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July 01, 2009 03:49 am UTC
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Brandon Clement
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That's a bit too much from what I've researched.
What needs to be re-built on the engine?
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Re: JDM's aren't what they used to be?
[Re: Chris Poe]
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July 01, 2009 03:35 pm UTC
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Brandon Clement
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Did you put oil in the cylinders to see if it raises your compression? If it did, then you need some rings.
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Re: JDM's aren't what they used to be?
[Re: Brandon Clement]
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July 01, 2009 04:58 pm UTC
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Matt Tremblay
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Honestly guys, I didnt read this whole thread fully but I saw it and it caught my eye.
Our 1 JDM shop in Ottawa, I am very close friends with. You have to understand how they get the engines. All the engines are basicly pulled from random cars by people in Japan, The Importers themselves have no Idea what they are getting.
At the shop here in Ottawa, They have a blown 4G63, they did even know it was blown until I saw it.
The best thing you can do to protect yourself is to bring someone who is mechanically inclined with you or even better, someone who knows engines. Bring a compression Tester and a Leakdown Tester. Test all the engines yourself. Some shops wont let you test them so in that case, you turn around and walk out the door.
We go to Montreal quite often to test engines for various different cars and I can tell you ive seen some sketchy sh!t. People will try to sell you an R32 engine meanwhile claiming its an R33 motor and selling it for the R33 price.
But the one thing the holds true, when you find a place that doesnt mind you testing engines and is more than willing to cooperate, those shops become your go to guys and they appreciate it because the business goes to them, everyone wins.
TEST YOUR OWN ENGINES!!! or else its your damn fault if its a shitty engine.
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Re: JDM's aren't what they used to be?
[Re: Chris Poe]
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July 02, 2009 12:02 pm UTC
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Paul Bebnowski
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when i was searching for a rebuild, $2800 was the lowest i found with parts.. If i were u Chris i would find someone on this forum that wants to sell their rebuilt engine.. thats what i did.
Burgundy '91 TSi- 3" turbo back,big 16g,adjKYBs,FMIC,RC 550's, 255Lph, Rebuilt engine,ect
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