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Re: Piecing together my Cobra Brake kit [Re: Brandon Halonen] #306204
July 03, 2009 04:17 am UTC
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Well the 40mm worked out pretty damn good. I'd still go with a 45 if I were to do it again, but really IMO you're fine either way.

I'm 99% done with the install. Only thing I have left to do is clamp (ziptie, clamp, whatever) the brake line somewhere in the middle. I'm not going to do that until I get the tranny and axles back in though. Oh and I suppose bleed them. My brake fluid is ancient (probably stock stuff from 1991 still). So I bought some standard off the shelf new fluid I'll be throwing in.

Also someone mentioned that their spacers weren't perfect. Mine weren't either, but they were damn close. I'm guessing every car might be a hair different so I'm not suprised I had to modify them slightly. On mine the spacers worked perfect for the bottom bolts, and "OK" for the top bolts on both sides. I'm sure they would have worked fine, but I just wanted to make sure I had that caliper as perfectly centered on there as could be. I ended up sanding both top spacers down about 1/32 of an inch (not sure what that is in metric world), which is barely anything. And now I think they are looking damn near perfect. So don't take that as me knocking the kit. Overall I'm pretty happy with the kit, and on something like this no one should be suprised that you may need to shim things to perfectly fit your specific vehicle. Only question I have, which Ziggy can probably answer, is if there is a reason the brackets are made of carbon steel? Aluminum or SS brackets would look a lot nicer and would not rust. I will be powdercoating these this winter when the car is stored to prevent rusting, but just thought I'd ask as I'm not a metal expert.

Also, these 2G lines worked out perfect in my opinion. So might want to consider those if your making a "complete" kit Ziggy. I wanted to add, that I better be getting 50% of all your profits you make on your "complete kit" now for all this info laugh J/K

Here's some pics:

Brake line removed:
http://www.mitsustyle.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=8926&d=1246593644

2G braided brake line installed:
http://www.mitsustyle.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=8927&d=1246593644
http://www.mitsustyle.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=8928&d=1246593674

Inside caliper gap:
http://www.mitsustyle.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=8929&d=1246593674

Oustide caliper gap:
http://www.mitsustyle.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=8930&d=1246593707


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Re: Piecing together my Cobra Brake kit [Re: Brandon Halonen] #306296
July 03, 2009 07:27 pm UTC
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Thanks for the info and excellent pics Brandon. I'm in the process of gathering the remaining pieces.


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Re: Piecing together my Cobra Brake kit [Re: Mike Kozlakowski] #306307
July 03, 2009 08:30 pm UTC
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BTW, for those interested, the brake line vendor (GT Auto Sport) is local (Ontario). I got the front 2G lines and he threw in a 1G clutch line for $45.20 CDN shipped.


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Re: Piecing together my Cobra Brake kit [Re: Mike Kozlakowski] #306313
July 03, 2009 08:40 pm UTC
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Yeah I did notice that my tracking info from them showed it was coming for Canada. Perfect for you Ziggy if you're going to make a complete kit.


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Re: Piecing together my Cobra Brake kit [Re: Brandon Halonen] #306315
July 03, 2009 08:51 pm UTC
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Haven't bled them yet, but I got the tranny and axles all installed. So just threw a wheel on sorta just to see how they look. Me's a like smile

http://www.mitsustyle.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=8932&d=1246654239


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Re: Piecing together my Cobra Brake kit [Re: Brandon Halonen] #306395
July 04, 2009 04:10 am UTC
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And they are on, bled, and the tranny is in and the car moves under it's own power and idles like a champ smile

I backed it out of the driveway and it stopped when I hit the brakes. So apparently they work that good so far laugh


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Re: Piecing together my Cobra Brake kit [Re: Brandon Halonen] #306400
July 04, 2009 06:07 am UTC
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OK well I just created a big write-up for the DSMTuners tech area (yeah yeah, tooooners). But figured it'd be a good spot to just put together a nice article on how to do it. I'll link it back here once the mods approve it. Hopefully brings you some business for that bracket kit Ziggy smile


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Re: Piecing together my Cobra Brake kit [Re: Brandon Halonen] #306409
July 04, 2009 11:42 am UTC
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Thank you. Actually, just out of the hubcentric rings, but getting more made smile. The bolts aren't here yet, but are on order. I have also ordered a couple sets of calipers, and ONE set of powerslot rotors (this stuff adds up....I can only stock so much)..so KIT should be available in a week or two...

50%?? for 50% you have to provide a lot more than info, LOL.

Reasons the brackets are steel instead of aluminum or stainless:
a) aluminum is NOWHERE near as strong. They would have PROBABLY needed to be a lot thicker. I am also not a mechanical engineer, but I believe Nick Boers (who designed these brackets) is. I would NOT want to be responsible for one of these failing.

Stainless..a nice ideam but a LOT more expensive. A LOT more to buy the material, and machining is about 1/3 the speed....so cost would be driven up considerably. Powder coating is a CHEAPER option, and lets everyone "customize" in terms of colour.

Do you think perhaps I should make the spacers a little shorter, and maybe add a couple washers for each to the kit? Maybe so that spacer alone would be more or less what you ended up with, and spacer plus one washer would be more or less what they are now? First kits were sold without spacers, guys used stacks of washers, and these spacers were made to match what was reported back to me on the washer height that was needed.


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Re: Piecing together my Cobra Brake kit [Re: Ziggy Dietrich] #306423
July 04, 2009 03:06 pm UTC
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I like how you Canadians spell it "colour" smile

I was kidding about the 50% too, ha.

I personally think the spacers are fine as they are. I do a lot of Field Service work with my job, and not matter how good the engineers design it, when you have components that need to line up perfectly on our machines, shimming is always involved. I personally see this as being the same. The bottoms were pretty much dead on, the tops were a nut hair too long. Not a big deal to me. I'd prefer a spacer that gets my 99% there and I simply have to shim it, over having to buy my own stack of washers and figure it out that way. I think your kit is pretty good. Again the only "comment" I had on the kit is the material the brackets are made of because I try to keep my car as rust free as possible. But I will just powder coat them this winter and that should take care of that!

I hear people mentioned you have to 'bed' new brakes. Not really sure how to do that, but I'll just cruise around today and try to break them in however.

Hopefully all goes well smile


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Re: Piecing together my Cobra Brake kit [Re: Brandon Halonen] #306424
July 04, 2009 03:11 pm UTC
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Brandon. just to be clear...I didn't take any of your comments as criticism. I appreciate the input. I try hard to please my customers, and am just trying to figure out what best suits them.


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Re: Piecing together my Cobra Brake kit [Re: Ziggy Dietrich] #306444
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Cool man. Yeah I'm not trying to criticize. Overall the kit was great IMO!

I drove about a mile today. Did some from 40 stops, and a from 70 stop. They are still bedding in I think. I also may bleed them again. Sounds like my drivers side caliper is rubbing though, so I will have to look into it centering it a little better.



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Re: Piecing together my Cobra Brake kit [Re: Brandon Halonen] #307548
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Well I got to test out these puppies at the drag strip this weekend. They worked great on several 130mph+ trap speeds. A huge improvement over my stockers.

So I'd say I'm pretty happy with the setup!!


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Re: Piecing together my Cobra Brake kit [Re: Brandon Halonen] #307583
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Glad to hear smile


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Re: Piecing together my Cobra Brake kit [Re: Ziggy Dietrich] #307598
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Awesome news...and is it safe to say that the countdown is now on for a ZiggyKit?


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Re: Piecing together my Cobra Brake kit [Re: Louis Savard] #307604
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Brackets are here, spacers are here...

bolts are on order...should be at my suppliers by now, just need to pick them up.

Hubcentric rings, I just ran out....should have more by end of the week.

Calipers are here !! smile

Powerslot rotors are here, don't have the other rotors I plan to offer yet..

Still need to look into the stainless lines...but we are getting very close.. smile



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Re: Piecing together my Cobra Brake kit [Re: Louis Savard] #307645
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Re: Piecing together my Cobra Brake kit [Re: Brandon Halonen] #308581
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Apparently Altima rotors which have a slightly smaller diameter (12.5") will fit without the hub-centric rings:

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/handling-tech/184965-bargain-basement-big-brakes-8.html


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