Just to chime in, I don't think it's the old gas if it's only been about a year.

My car sat for 3 years and it fired right up first crank.

Weird, but nice.

I hope you get this figured out real soon, must be a real bummer.

Okay time to update,

We just finished doing a compression test and the results are as follows:

#1 cyl: 185
#2 cyl: 175
#3 cyl: 180
#4 cyl: 180

So from the resulting scores there is deffinately no damage internally.

We then followed up to confirm for spark on all cylinders and ended up with spark on all 4.

I then swapped the wires to a suggested order in the sequence 3-2-1-4(on the coilpack) and we cranked it over and it would backfire about every other time it cranked over.. It sounded as it wanted to fire and when it backfired it pushed the engine around.

It is deffinately getting gas because we pulled all 4 plugs and they were wet and smelled like fuel.

We had the injectors unplugged, I began to crank it and it was cranking over perfectly (no slowing down.. just normal) When we plugged the injectors back in, it would crank but have that slowdown yet not as bad as in the video.'

Im thinking a clogged fuel filter along with old gas could be the culprit, so i will tomorrow flush out the old gas and put in fresh 91 along with a new fuel filter. Once I remove the old gas and put a new fuel filter in i will try the original 4-1-2-3 wire firing order and try that. Im having a feeling that 3-2-1-4 is going to do it.

Yeah I also wouldn't think it's gas, it would have to sit for a pretty long time to settle enough not to fire up!

So you have compression, spark (at the wrong time), and fuel and air....therefore FIRING ORDER!!!

Good luck

I don't think gas is your problem. the fact that it turns over smoothly without the injectors, and then turns over "badly" WITH the injectors, that means fuel is being ignited, but AT THE WRONG TIME!






I would suggest you check your FIRING ORDER!!!

I am going to say it should be 4-1-2-3....

just make sure you are starting at the right end

FWIW..

Since it's a "lossy" or "wasted spark" ignition system, there are only two possible firing orders..

4-1-2-3 (which is the same as 1423, 1432 and 4132)

3-2-1-4 (which is the same as 2314, 2341 and 3241)

Okay Thanks a lot guys! I will deffinately be checking the firing order, I will switch back to:

4-1-2-3 (coilpack)
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4-3-2-1 (engine)

If that doesnt work then I will try:

3-2-1-4 (coilpack)
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4-3-2-1 (engine)

Is 4-1-2-3 the one we tried that night we got the compression numbers? I got that fuel stabilizer if you need it, for whatever reason. Gimme a shout when you wake up I might give you a hand today!

Okay time to update guys,

I got her started !! made me grin ear to ear hearing her start.

I tried the wire set up as the haynes and from everyones post however; 4-1-2-3 didnt work and ended up with the "slowing" down while cranking it.

So.. I tried a different combo that Rob had posted, 3-2-1-4. After 2 cranks she backfired and bam ! She started right up , It was running on all 4 cylinders and no slowing down while cranking, it was perfect ! She starts first try everytime now.

Needless to say, I am worried about some wiring going on near my ecu.. I took a look in there and the wiring has a bunch of electrical tape on the wires for the bottom plug as if one of the 8 previous owners did some fooling around

Everything works and she idles perfectly at 750rpm so I'm not gonna fiddle around with that right now. I believe the wiring was for the 1g cas.. The car had a 2g 7bolt that spun a bearing but had a 1g cas, is it possible they just swapped the pins for the injectors? I know when you install a 1g cas you need to swap the wire combo and do a bit of wiring for the ecu to realize the different sensor, is that what my deal is?

Again many thanks goes to everyone who has helped me out !! I really appreciate it !

Glad to hear Nick, it's always nice when the simple troubleshooting covers your problem!

Someone else will have to weigh in on the CAS woring, as I let ECM-link do all my changes when I had a 1G CAS installed on my 2G head.

Mike

that would explain alot, i'd bet that when you look at the ecu wiring you will see the injectors wires have been reversed. I would solder them back to how they should be, and then you can arrange your wires to the stock setup.

Well im going to see if I can hook up my 1g cas since all the work has been done for me lol.

If I'm correct the 1g cas should let me be able to adjust timing correct? Since the '95 is non adjustable.

I'll be using a timing light and make sure I set timing until it reads 5 deg +/-3 deg BTDC at idle.

Or should I just leave everything the way it is? Opinions please.

You cannot run a 1g cam properly on a 2g without proper ecu compensation. Your car will run like sh!t, and you will get cylinder misfire.

The ONLY time you should use a 1g cam in a 2g, is when you are running a 6 bolt engine.

keep it the way it is.