How To Dye/Paint Your Interior
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August 03, 2010 06:41 pm UTC
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The thing that has always bugged me about my black car is that it has a grey interior, it just looks odd in my mind. I've thought about changing it to black many times but finding a black interior for these cars is hard because the only 2G with a black interior is the Special Edition Eclipse released in 99. Of course Eclipses were only sold in the US at that point and that's where most were to be found and I didn't want to pay to ship a complete interior. So I started to research painting/dying my interior (not the seats or carpet though). That's when I came across SEM Paints. The make a line of paint and prep products that are made specifically for painting/dying vinyl and plastic. Everyone raves about this stuff so I had to try it for myself. I rolled out to the local auto body supply shop and came back with all of this: TSP - This is an all purpose cleaner used for removing grease and wax. SEM Plastic/Leather Prep - SEM's spray on cleaner for removing grease, wax, finger prints, etc. SEM Sand Free - A primer of sorts, sand free allows the plastic/vinyl to open up allowing the paint to sink into the panel. You apply your first coat of color coat while the sand free is still wet. SEM Color Coat (Landau Black) - The color coat paint (use whatever color you want). Red Scuff pad - For scuffing the plastic/vinyl a bit. Dish Scrub pad and dish soap - For cleaning the plastic/vinyl. Tack Cloth - A sticky cloth that picks up lint from the surface before and between coats. Not pictured is a charcoal filter mask, I highly recommend wearing one. Close up of the SEM products to see the part numbers. Here's the test panel I choice, the driver side center console cover. Put some dish soap and hot water in a bucket and grab the scrub pad. Clean both sides of the panel with the soap and water. Then hose it off. Now you can either let it dry or wipe it dry, I choose to air dry the panel. Then spray the TSP all over, let it sit for 15 minutes, then hose it off. Let it air dry this time and wash it with the soap and water again, hose it off and let it air dry again. Time for the final prep stag, spray the SEM Plastic/Leather Prep on and wipe it off with a clean rag, change rags often. I did this twice. Now it's time to put on the coat of SEM Sand Free, the instructions say to apply a medium coat of the Sand Free. [img] http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v87/G2Rac/96%20Talon%20TSI%20AWD/Black%20Interior/IMGP1029.jpg[/img] Now while the Sand Free is still wet, apply a light/dust coat of the Color Coat you choose. [img] http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v87/G2Rac/96%20Talon%20TSI%20AWD/Black%20Interior/IMGP1030.jpg[/img] I let it dry 10 minutes between coats, here's the 2nd. [img] http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v87/G2Rac/96%20Talon%20TSI%20AWD/Black%20Interior/IMGP1031.jpg[/img] 3rd coat. [img] http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v87/G2Rac/96%20Talon%20TSI%20AWD/Black%20Interior/IMGP1033.jpg[/img] The 5th and final coat. [img] http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v87/G2Rac/96%20Talon%20TSI%20AWD/Black%20Interior/IMGP1034.jpg[/img] A comparison picture with the passenger side panel. [img] http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v87/G2Rac/96%20Talon%20TSI%20AWD/Black%20Interior/IMGP1037.jpg[/img] Here's the panel out in the sun light. [img] http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v87/G2Rac/96%20Talon%20TSI%20AWD/Black%20Interior/IMGP1041.jpg[/img] [img] http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v87/G2Rac/96%20Talon%20TSI%20AWD/Black%20Interior/IMGP1042.jpg[/img] Overall, I'm very happy with the results. I'll let the panel dry for a few more days then I'll paint the inside of it. I've also got a few other panels here that I will paint. When I go out to my parents again (this weekend), I'll bring the rest of the interior home. I'll update this as I continue to paint/dye everything.
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Re: How To Dye/Paint Your Interior
[Re: Ian Burnside]
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August 04, 2010 12:18 pm UTC
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Awesome! I've been planning to do this with the grey pieces in my car. I have a 99 but the lower part of the dash as well as those side panels are still grey. Where did you buy the stuff? Finish Line on Topsail road in Mount Pearl. Why paint the inside of it? Seems like a waste of time and effort to me. You're never going to see it unless you take the panels off. Not sure, I just want it to be complete even though I'll never see it lol.
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Re: How To Dye/Paint Your Interior
[Re: Andrew Trapp]
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September 19, 2010 01:13 am UTC
September 19, 2010 01:13 am UTC
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Two shots of my interior. I have to say it isn't the toughest paint around. I might end up pulling everything out again, scotch brite it, throw two coats down, and three coats of clear coat over top. I'm not sure if it will cure harder, but just with manouvering my MDF trunk board into place, I managed to scratch through to the grey somewhat easily. For the mean time I'll scotch brite a patch and spray some of it into a cup and apply with a brush just so I don't have to take everything out again. I'll also note that my interior was the 'all-black' interior stock from factory. I did the console sides, glove box, piece beside the glove box, piece under the dash and all pieces that go with it, and the two side trunk pieces. Didn't do center back as mine has a crack in it, so either going to fiberglass it or buy one used/new with a crack. edit: I also dyed my carpet black... dying the carpet black was probably the best interior clean-up I could think of...just so freaking nice, pictures just really can't describe it. edit: the SEM black I used for the panels was Satin Black, as opposed to Glossy Black...blends in somewhat nicely into the stock black, but it is different if you're anal about matching. In most lighting conditions, you can't tell. edit2: I guess I'll also note I went through 3 cans doing just the pieces listed. edit2: and for the love of god, if you are doing this...WEAR GLOVES! I've seen too many youtube video tutorials showing a nicely prepped vinyl piece, then they proceed to handle it with their bare hands to position it...I made the mistake of putting my 'clean' bare thumb after the plastic prep wipe down and sure enough, it flaked right off at that exact spot...every where else is golden.
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Re: How To Dye/Paint Your Interior
[Re: miguel barros]
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September 30, 2010 01:45 am UTC
September 30, 2010 01:45 am UTC
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Miguel, I didn't use SEM products on my carpet, but I used Duplicolor Vinyl & Fabric paint and it worked alright. Looks really damn good ( I have a picture I haven't uploaded yet with the carpet in place with the seats out ), but there is a patch that wore away with just dry rubbing it...it didn't really seem to penetrate the fibers as well as I was hoping. On the other hand, it cost me $40 to spray so I can't complain too much.
I used a brush to try to work it into the fibers but the brush I grabbed was synthetic and the spray paint just started gooping up. However, at the end, I would consider the carpet comfortable enough to sleep on. It's a lil crunchy, but nothing that would make working naked, lying upside down under the dash uncomfortable.
And to be honest, it's not like I roll around without floormats...so the places my carpet would see wear, are covered with mats.
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Re: How To Dye/Paint Your Interior
[Re: Andrew Trapp]
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September 30, 2010 12:59 pm UTC
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Miguel, personally I'm not a fan of painting the carpet though it has worked for some people. What I will most like do is the RIT dye method. Here's the pm convo I had with Eclipse GSX 61/Josh from JNZ over on Talk. [QUOTE=Eclipse GSX 61][QUOTE=Blurred Talon]Hey,
How exactly did you RIT dye your carpet? Did you remove the insulation from it before dying?
I've done some research and might give it a shot.
Thanks, Anthony I went to Walmart and purchased a large plastic storage container, 7 bottles of the wet RIT DYE not the boxed powder, and a whole container of salt. I bucketed scalding hot water from the faucet into the large container while also pouring all the dye and salt at the same time. Mix everything up and then place the carpet in the dye. I suggest leaving it in there for at least 7 days. I did not remove the padding and also make sure you clean the carpet good so the dye can stick. Cool, thanks for the info man. I'll have to see if I can find RIT Dye locally. No problem. Make sure you get the salt its a catalyst to the carpet accepting the dye. Check Walmart because they have the dye for sure and other craft stores. Thanks again for the help man, I found the dye at Micheal's. Last thing I wanted to ask is, what did you do with the left over water in the bin?[/QUOTE] I dumped it in the grass and hosed it down.[/QUOTE] Rit Dye can be bought at Micheal's.
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Re: How To Dye/Paint Your Interior
[Re: Anthony Hiscock]
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September 14, 2011 10:07 pm UTC
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Been a while. Dash is in. Videos talking about the process and showing how to do it. Part 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Vf6g2ltHkAPart 2 (actual painting) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AnRhtGl7DYPart 3 (focusing on door panels) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBPO8NIlMkYGot my trunk panels done, going to try and get the rest of them done so I can put the rear interior back into the car but first I need to get more from the shop (if they can find any, they can't right now). I also took about my door panels completely, this will allow me to work on them better and prep/paint each material differently. The plastic piece on the bottom of the door panel has little posts that pass through the vinyl part of the door panel and then they are melted to make the panel one piece. I drilled the head off (melted part) and then I was able to take apart the plastic piece. I will screw it back together with some small screws and washers. (I've got enough pictures taken to do a how to on this so when I get them dyed and reassembled I'll post up). I'm working on stripping all the SEM off the door panels because as you can see in the above picture I screwed up. I was lax on the prep work the the SEM started to peel while the panels where just sitting in my work shop!!! SEM soap, Vinyl prep and plastic prep are needed to prep correctly. Here's a video I did talking about prepping the door panels. I'm still stripping the old stuff off so I haven't redone them yet. I'm sorry about the crappy light I was filming with my Galaxy S2 because my camera was dead. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBPO8NIlMkYNext up it's time to dye my carpet. I'm using the RIT dye method. According to the bottle of RIT dye, you need to use 1 bottle for each pound of fabric. Knowing that I weighed myself with and with out the carpet in my arms and came up with 10lbs, not super accurate but it works. I bought 10 bottles of the liquid RIT dye and 1 kilogram box of salt (Salt will help the dye get into the carpet. Step 1 Optional, remove the sound deadening fluff from the back of the carpet. Step 2 Use a carpet cleaning product (or steam cleaner) and a brush to clean the carpet. Power wash it also, if this means you need to bring it to a coin wash then do it. After that hang it to dry, I tossed it on the clothes line. Make sure you get ALL of the cleaning product/soap out. Step 3 Grab all your dye and some rocks, you'll use these to weigh the carpet down and keep it under the water. I put them in zip lock bags to keep dirt out of the dye. Step 4 Grab a big Rubbermaid bin (mine is big not sure on the exact size) and a bucket and start filling said bin with HOT water. I used water from my tap since it comes out pretty damned hot! Also make sure you have the bin where ever you want it to live while doing this because you won't be moving it when it's full of water! Step 5 Once the bin is full start adding dye. [img] http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...WD/Black%20Interior/2011-09-13155020.jpg[/img] Once you get 5 bottles in give it a good stir then put the final 5 in and stir again. [img] http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...WD/Black%20Interior/2011-09-13155703.jpg[/img] Step 6 Pour your salt in and stir. [img] http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...WD/Black%20Interior/2011-09-13155740.jpg[/img] Keep stirring it! [img] http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...WD/Black%20Interior/2011-09-13160001.jpg[/img] Step 7 Put your carpet in and put the rocks on top to keep it under the water. [img] http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...WD/Black%20Interior/2011-09-13160656.jpg[/img] After this I drug it under my deck and added some rocks on top to keep the lid on. I plan to leave it there till Thursday afternoon then I'll take it out, hose it off till the water runs clear and then let it dry. [img] http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...WD/Black%20Interior/2011-09-13174947.jpg[/img]
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Re: How To Dye/Paint Your Interior
[Re: Anthony Hiscock]
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September 14, 2011 10:49 pm UTC
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Very impressive!! I can't wait till I can see the final result!
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Re: How To Dye/Paint Your Interior
[Re: Anthony Hiscock]
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October 28, 2011 07:37 pm UTC
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Hey Anthony, when can we see the final result on this!?
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Re: How To Dye/Paint Your Interior
[Re: Anthony Hiscock]
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November 03, 2011 04:36 am UTC
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This talon is going to be better than it was when it came off the show room floor!
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