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Stock Block runs 9's #341157
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Looks like after all these years Mike Rizzoti finally broke into the 9's on a stock block with a 9.98@140mph. That's FLYING!!!

So much for needing a built motor to run 12s ponder


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Re: Stock Block runs 9's [Re: KEVIN KIRELUK] #341158
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Re: Stock Block runs 9's [Re: Ryan Laliberte] #341160
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Re: Stock Block runs 9's [Re: KEVIN KIRELUK] #341161
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That is f'n AWESOME!!!


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Re: Stock Block runs 9's [Re: Ziggy Dietrich] #341162
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That is bad ass, what a great run.


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Re: Stock Block runs 9's [Re: Brandon Clement] #341165
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I know Mike for the past 15 years; his car is my favorite DSM of all times; (Red 1Ga).

I always make a point to drop by and talk to him everytime I see him at the Ohio SO. Guy is amazing, glad he did it.

At last; vid did not work for me so anyone feel free to "repost".

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Re: Stock Block runs 9's [Re: Ghislain Goudreau] #341167
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Wow, amazing, just found this Ghiz:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfb9evWDUO4


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Re: Stock Block runs 9's [Re: Mike Penton] #341184
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Very awesome.


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Re: Stock Block runs 9's [Re: Anthony Hiscock] #341185
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Stock Block FTW! Like I never said that before, lol. Todd M is not that far behind him smile

There's nothing like pounding on a stock block running 10's all day with nothing to worry about. Waaay better than an INCONSISTENT all out race car running mid 10's once in a blue moon on a 40r sized turbo, lol.



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Re: Stock Block runs 9's [Re: Reza Mirza] #341196
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I met Mike briefly at the shootout this year and what blew me away more than the fact that he's on a stock block is that we has over 600 passes on it and not someone who just cranked the boost up and went fast once.


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Re: Stock Block runs 9's [Re: Jamie Valcamp] #341200
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More importantly its all in the tune. Sure you could blow a stock block up much easily than a built block, but if you know how to tune, I think sky is the limit wink


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Re: Stock Block runs 9's [Re: Reza Mirza] #341204
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This does confirm that Todd M is not just a "one off" miracle.....


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Re: Stock Block runs 9's [Re: Jamie Valcamp] #341218
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Originally Posted by Jamie Valcamp
what blew me away more than the fact that he's on a stock block is that we has over 600 passes on it


Now thats a testament of what an 18 year motor will do when tuned properly. If your tuner isn't confident running mere 12's with a stock block, you need to find yourself another tuner! bomb


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Re: Stock Block runs 9's [Re: KEVIN KIRELUK] #341219
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Bah, big money doesn't mean big power. Just because you can slap on a 40R sized turbo onto a midly built motor doesn't mean you can run low 10s all day long.

I just can't wait to get E85 in this area. demon


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Re: Stock Block runs 9's [Re: Ryan Laliberte] #341233
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Now is this 7bolt or 6bolt block?


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Re: Stock Block runs 9's [Re: Alex Akachinskiy] #341235
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Thats a stock 6-bolt block. FWIW there is a stock 7-bolt 2G going 10.3 naughty


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Re: Stock Block runs 9's [Re: KEVIN KIRELUK] #341239
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Originally Posted by KEVIN KIRELUK
FWIW there is a stock 7-bolt 2G going 10.3 naughty


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Re: Stock Block runs 9's [Re: Ryan Laliberte] #341243
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Thats nuts that he was able to pull a 9 off on a stock block. Wouldn't you say its a bit reckless to be boosting that hard on stock though? or is the general concensous that stock internals are fine for a few 1/4's every now and then?

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Research WHO Mike Rizzotti is, he's one of the pioneers of the DSM Tuning community, along with Todd Day, Buschur Racing... Forcep... wait... no....


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Re: Stock Block runs 9's [Re: Luke Decking] #341252
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Originally Posted by Luc dekking
Wouldn't you say its a bit reckless to be boosting that hard on stock though?


Not reckless at all IMO, stock blocks are low compression wink Tuning is the key, and it will do it over and over again.


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Re: Stock Block runs 9's [Re: KEVIN KIRELUK] #341254
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Originally Posted by KEVIN KIRELUK
Thats a stock 6-bolt block. FWIW there is a stock 7-bolt 2G going 10.3 naughty


stock rods or 1g rods?


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Stock unmolested 7 bolt 2G.


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Re: Stock Block runs 9's [Re: Ryan Laliberte] #341259
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when you say stock block does he mean its the original one that came with HIS car when he first bought it? if so then thats pretty impressive..



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That's correct!


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Re: Stock Block runs 9's [Re: Ryan Laliberte] #341272
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Originally Posted by Ryan Laliberte
That's correct!

stock head gasket and stock head bolts ?


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Originally Posted by Alex Akachinski
Originally Posted by Ryan Laliberte
That's correct!

stock head gasket and stock head bolts ?


its heavily modded with a stock block only.

http://www.rizzottiracing.com/specs.htm


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Re: Stock Block runs 9's [Re: Alex Akachinskiy] #341288
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Originally Posted by Alex Akachinski
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That's correct!

stock head gasket and stock head bolts ?


Todd is the one running stock composite head gasket, and stock headbolts. His best ET has been 10.3, with a smaller turbo(61mm vs 67mm) than Mike Rizz, and without the use of racegas. Just as impressive if you ask me! tu


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Originally Posted by KEVIN KIRELUK
Originally Posted by Alex Akachinski
Originally Posted by Ryan Laliberte
That's correct!

stock head gasket and stock head bolts ?


Todd is the one running stock composite head gasket, and stock headbolts. His best ET has been 10.3, with a smaller turbo(61mm vs 67mm) than Mike Rizz, and without the use of racegas. Just as impressive if you ask me! tu


More impressive if you ask me.


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Re: Stock Block runs 9's [Re: Tim Grechin] #341304
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^^^ X2.


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Re: Stock Block runs 9's [Re: Ryan Laliberte] #341306
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Now what about stock 2G/1G AWD tranny, transfer case, and rear diff?


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Re: Stock Block runs 9's [Re: Alex Akachinskiy] #341314
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Just guessing here, but there's absolutely no way he could be on the stock transmission, he would be shredding input shafts at will, and absolutely destroying the stock centre diff! I would also expect he has a Cusco or Quaife (sp?) front differential, and upgraded front and rear DSS axles to deal with that kind of abuse!

Just a guess though smile


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Re: Stock Block runs 9's [Re: Alex Akachinskiy] #341316
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what about it ?

I would say the record for a stock 2g/1g AWD tranny, t case and rear diff that takes 10 cranks to start goes to you wink
You are definately the fastest in that category, lol.


I'm pretty sure he's on a Shep stage 4 trans, though if you think a completely stock trans can't go deep into the 10's think again wink There's quite a handful of powerful cars on stock trannies. All my ten second passes were on a completely stock JDM early style 90's, open front diff, weak gvr4 1st and stock center diff tranny.


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^^^
This is why I said "just a guess" ha-ha...I would have thought the weakest link would be the stock open centre diff, but if you're able to run a 10 second pass on it, I guess it all depends on launching style, and if you put most of the abuse on the clutch or the drivetrain...


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Mike runs a welded center diff Shep stage 4 with stock 4 bolt rear axles.

I run a stock 91 style Shep Stage 1.5 with double synchro 2nd and welded center diff and stock 4 bolt rear axles.


We have both gone the twin disc route with terrible results and now both have ACT2900 setups.

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It's awesome all the same, I thought I was doing good, stock 2G bottom end with 200,000k, FP Green, stock tranny with 4 spider center diff going 11.3. Great job guys!

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Originally Posted by Jim Spurrell
It's awesome all the same, I thought I was doing good, stock 2G bottom end with 200,000k, FP Green, stock tranny with 4 spider center diff going 11.3. Great job guys!

Jim


You ARE doing good Jim especially in light of all the negative publicity 7 bolts have received over the years. This is why I find the great times that stock 7 bolt block motors run more impressive than stock 6 bolt blocks. tu


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Agreed.....great numbers, Jim!!


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Right on Jim! Stock 7 bolt FTW!

Just to point out, Daniel Daraiche has gone 9.2 in his Colt, stock 6 bolt bottom end, 2700lbs. smile

Testament to good Mitsubishi Engineering, and proof you don't need no "stage 3" to reliably do those times.

He's from DSM Quebec (coltdie).


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Re: Stock Block runs 9's [Re: Ryan Laliberte] #341512
October 28, 2010 07:17 pm UTC
October 28, 2010 07:17 pm UTC
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Originally Posted by Ryan Laliberte
Right on Jim! Stock 7 bolt FTW!

Just to point out, Daniel Daraiche has gone 9.2 in his Colt, stock 6 bolt bottom end, 2700lbs. smile

Testament to good Mitsubishi Engineering, and proof you don't need no "stage 3" to reliably do those times.

He's from DSM Quebec (coltdie).


sounds good to me! tu


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Re: Stock Block runs 9's [Re: Reza Mirza] #341519
October 28, 2010 09:27 pm UTC
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Originally Posted by Reza Mirza
Originally Posted by Luc dekking
Wouldn't you say its a bit reckless to be boosting that hard on stock though?


Not reckless at all IMO, stock blocks are low compression wink Tuning is the key, and it will do it over and over again.


It doesn't matter how good your tune is rods, and pistons fail, in another post of his he admitted he is pushing things and that was the last past probably on that motor. You don't need built internals but they are stronger and one oil down and put your car in to the wall you go from hero to zero.


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