Re: Speed Density
[Re: Paul Sitarski]
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September 07, 2011 12:48 am UTC
September 07, 2011 12:48 am UTC
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Ghislain Goudreau
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I have also just switched to SD and noticed greath improvement.
The set up needed a few tweaks but is running alright. I'm quite picky about my tune so need o work on the low rmp cruise. Aside from that just like Paul said it pulls and holds like a "mofo" above 5750.
I should be reciving a chunk of 4" Pipe to "fab-up" an Intake Pipe; not as shinny as Paul's but should be quite effective.
We'll see if it helps me get into the 11 this comming Saturday.
Ghislain
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Re: Speed Density
[Re: Ghislain Goudreau]
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September 07, 2011 01:10 am UTC
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Bryan Lawrence
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I am confused as to why you have decided to heat wrap your intake?
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Re: Speed Density
[Re: Rob Strelecki]
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September 07, 2011 01:28 am UTC
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Ghislain Goudreau
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And also to insure that a good amount of cold air gets into the Intake Pipe.
Ghislain
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Re: Speed Density
[Re: Paul Sitarski]
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September 07, 2011 02:00 am UTC
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Ghislain Goudreau
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I never "wrap" it but have a schroud and will also be making one with the new SD Set-up.
What "Wrapping" material are you using???
Ghislain
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Re: Speed Density
[Re: Paul Sitarski]
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September 07, 2011 03:09 am UTC
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Ghislain Goudreau
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Thanks for the links Paul.
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Re: Speed Density
[Re: Ghislain Goudreau]
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September 07, 2011 02:08 pm UTC
September 07, 2011 02:08 pm UTC
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kent Hennigar
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I my self have just recently switched to SD and I must say I love it. I went for roughly 1 hour drive to tune out some problems I was having 90% of my problems are now gone. Used the built in VE table tool then I manually calculated the rest of the cells. Once I got the Air fuel ratio estimate to match my wide band as best I could things started running really great. Sep for I still have to tune out a few small problems like leaning out when I hit the throttle from idol. Holding 18 degrees of timing WOT at 15.3 psi with zero Nock and 90 something % injector duty cycle on my stock 450’s not bad in my books. The day before when I was running a GM Maf I could not get over 1 psi with out starting to knock and other times the car would have no knock at all. So ya SD For The Win ! and yes I did check for boost leaks (Compressor then lots of soap and water)
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Re: Speed Density
[Re: kent Hennigar]
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September 07, 2011 02:20 pm UTC
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Bryan Lawrence
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Good to know and thanks for the links. I have used the header wrap before but have never seen any of that other stuff. I may just look into using that to keep the heat down in my engine pay!
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Re: Speed Density
[Re: Tim Sedore]
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September 07, 2011 08:03 pm UTC
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kent Hennigar
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Sorry for any gramer mistakes in advance. You do not need your Maf to tune it, or dial it in. The VE table that comes with it dose not require alote of tweaking to get you up and running. If your MAP has a good vacume source (ie) realy close to the intake. Keep the vacume line short as posible you should not need to adjust the Tipin very much. Change your ECUimputs to what they need to be and change your Setting over to speed SD. make sure you are loging every thing SD needs then try and start it up, you will probly have to give it some more air to help it Idol, so open the BISC screw a little bit. look at the VE cells the ECU is trying to use during idol. If idol is bad but it is running just start a log for a few seconds and use the VE combind fuel trim tool it will only change the cells that were used in the log nice quick way to get her to idol. Then it is time to go for a cruse and read a couple guids on dialing SD all-though the VE tool is nice I still recomend crunching some numbers cell buy cell and traking it threw a few 15-20 min logs thanks (Ryan laliberte) for that that tip. Now I have moved onto to learning how to get my BoostEST to match my boost as best I can & I will be adding some timing to my tune very shortly
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Re: Speed Density
[Re: Scott McIntyre]
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September 07, 2011 08:12 pm UTC
September 07, 2011 08:12 pm UTC
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Reza Mirza
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Your nozzles are awfully close to your IAT sensor... General consensus is that if you install meth injection upstream of an IAT, you want as much distance between them as possible (+8") to allow the meth to atomize before reaching the sensor.
Actually my IAT is even closer, i.e. directly right after the 2 meth nozzles. I had to run it like this due to space constraints. As soon as my meth sprays my iat's DROP like a rock. I think he's fine Its good to see all you new speed density guys enjoying it
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Re: Speed Density
[Re: kent Hennigar]
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September 08, 2011 01:21 pm UTC
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Reza Mirza
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