10" sub options.
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October 20, 2012 04:53 am UTC
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So, here I am about to get started on my trunk sub enclosure. I'll be doing the same layout at this thread http://www.ca.dsm.org/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=337695#Post337695I don't currently have a 10" that I'm willing to pull out of another box so this leaves me open to options. What are you running that fits this category and/or what do you have experience with/recommend. Specs that it must fit are as follows: Power handling(W) - RMS 650@2ohm or 375@4ohm, 850 peak (have a planetaudio VX900D that has served me well over the years) http://www.planetaudiousa.com/suppo...p;_a=viewdownload&downloaditemid=235Enclosure Volume - ~36L (1.27ft^3) --> ~55L (1.94ft^3) This is the approximate volume of the lassenger side trunk panel indent. Just measured it by willing with water. Price - UNDER the $200 mark Lets see what you've got!
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Re: 10" sub options.
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December 05, 2012 09:24 pm UTC
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I'll take some pictures tonight. I was just going to say, you best be taking pictures! I am curious to see how the build process looks.
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Re: 10" sub options.
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December 06, 2012 08:43 pm UTC
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The backing of the sub enclosure is complete. I wanted to get the bezel and rods cut to length as well but ran into a lot of hickups with my 4 channel amp last night. Just didn't want to pump out sound. :S So here's where I am. Keep in mind since the picture of the back, there have been 2 - 4 more layers of fibreglass placed. The key is to sand out all the not to smooth spots between layers. That's how I eliminated the possibility of air pockets in the shell, along with being diligent while laying the mats. All the white lines are where I sanded down the excess strands to make a smooth surface With the speaker connections, I decided to make it modular so I could easily switch between the head unit or the amp, but looking back through some wiring diagrams, this seemed to be pretty pointless so I'll be undoing all of that tonight and simply wiring up the amp line outs to the factory amplifier lead.
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Re: 10" sub options.
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December 06, 2012 11:25 pm UTC
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Yeah Johnny, looking good so far. Are those interior pieces just spares? What did you put on them, tape and tinfoil?
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Re: 10" sub options.
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December 07, 2012 05:27 am UTC
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Yes, I picked up a spare trunk piece to make this enclosure. It makes the whole process much easier. I would never do this in the car again just because of A) The tight space and B) the mess you'll make, and lastly C)The time it takes. Also, after the first 2 layres were hardened, I removed the enclosure from the panel just to make sure it came out ok, and then continued to lay more fiber glass with the enclosure on it's back. Much easier to work with as you're never trying to fight against gravity. To prepare the panel, I first used tape, and then put a layer of tin foil over that to make sure no resin leaked through on to the panel as I can imagine some "friends" might want the same setup. The tape was the solid seal, but as Andrew Trapp mentioned in his build thread, if you only use the tape it becomes incrediably sticky after the hardener cures and you then risk cracking the enclosure trying to get it off of the panel. The tin foil peels off fairly easily once removed.
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Re: 10" sub options.
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December 07, 2012 06:20 am UTC
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Do you need to smooth out the surface in and out? Sanding? You make it sound easy enough to try it myself but I would definitely do it the way you are, by working with a spare panel. Hence, finding one first When do we get to see more?
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Re: 10" sub options.
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December 07, 2012 11:54 am UTC
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Right MEOW! The outside doesn't need to be sanded at all. Mine turned out smooth all over because I took my time laying the first layer on the tin foil. Anyway, you wouldn't have to/want to sand/add to the outside as that's why you used the panel as a mould. You change the outer shape, then it won't fit again. The inside was only sanded smooth/flat to ensure there are no air pockets in the enclosure, and if you're going to do something do it right! No updates on the enclosure itself tonight, but the amp rack is pretty much completed and installed. I lined up where I wanted the components placed, then tapped mounting holes. The capacitor needed to be sunk because it sat higher then 2.5", which was my cap height to keep the upper trunk board in line with the cross brace. As such. And finally, all installed with the remainder of my new trunk floor The trunk floor board sits on top of that. I still need to install the sprung hinges so it will open and stay open until closed. I might paint the whole rack in the future. All I require is to run a new power line from the battery because this one is about 4" too short. FRACK! That or install splitters for power, ground and remote, which come to think of it might be a better option then re running the damn wire.... Then all that's left is to complete/install the sub Oh, btw, I scrapped the Serial port swaping idea for alternating between sound sources (amp vs. headunit) The wires were too thick thus preventing the terminals to be installed correctly. Cool idea, and I'm sure if I got some other terminals, it might of worked out. I just hardwired the amp outs into the stock amp harness under the pax seat.
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Re: 10" sub options.
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December 07, 2012 02:24 pm UTC
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Super curious as to what it will look like when it's all done! Looking really good and really clean so far!
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Re: 10" sub options.
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December 10, 2012 01:10 pm UTC
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I would just do what people do when they are doing hood pins. Put something in the centre of the emblem that will make a mark when you put the top on. Then just use a hole drill that's the size of the emblem. You should see if you can get some JL emblems, have your initials all over the audio equipment
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Re: 10" sub options.
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December 10, 2012 09:11 pm UTC
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Yeah but if the hole saw is the same diameter as the emblem it shouldn't be an issue.
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Re: 10" sub options.
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December 19, 2012 08:31 pm UTC
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Been lacking on the progress lately. The Sub bezel has been suspended and the box has been fleeced. All that remains is a whack ton of resin and we should be off to the races! I put in 6 supports for the sub because it has some substantial weight. As you can see there is plenty of room in the rear. I'm estimating this enclosure will be around the 40L mark when completed. Now for the fleece. The trick is to do one side at a time. I started with the most rearward (when in the car) edge as it was perfectly straight and gave a large enough mounting surface. I roughed up the edges and about 1.5-2" back to help with the adhesion. The rear of the enclosure is relatively smooth upon completion, so to ensure your fleece will stick you need to rough it up a bit. I used 3M Super 77 Spray Adhesive. Make sure you spray the enclosure and not the fabric! The fabric will stick together and then becomes difficult to work with. After the first edge was good and stuck, I sprayed the sub bezel and streched the fabric out and over that, then proceeded to the bottom (another straight flat edge) Once the fleece is secured along the edge, I either trimmed the excess or in the case of the top, sprayed it further down and secured the remainder of the fleece. My thoughts on this is it will be used to act as a buffer against the car trim, hopefully reducing any rattle. It won't be covered in resin so if it doesn't work out, I'll just cut it off. Working around, the curviest side was saved for last as it would be easier to make sure everything is flat and crease free. Started at the top and slowly worked my way down. And lastly, the final product! To secure the fleece inside of the sub bezel, I simply cut the center fleece into 6 pieces within an inch of the bezel edge, then sprayed the bezel with 3M, slowly worked the fleece around the edges, and when flat insert the piece cut from the center to ensure the fleece stays where it's been glued.
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Re: 10" sub options.
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December 20, 2012 01:10 am UTC
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Looks good Johnny!! What are you going to do after all the Resin is hardened? Paint?
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