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Re: Lumpy idle off start [Re: Michael Lee] #389028
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How is the sending unit?
Next step, replace the lines!



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Re: Lumpy idle off start [Re: Michael Lee] #389029
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No idea, there's just a lot of crap on top.

I'll snap a picture.

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Re: Lumpy idle off start [Re: Michael Lee] #389031
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Well, you clearly have to get under the car, but it's not overly difficult. It's just a line laugh


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Re: Lumpy idle off start [Re: Michael Lee] #389035
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Good news kinda.

It's not the line itself, it's the "pipe" coming right out of the sending unit itself that has a pinhole in it.

So I guess all I need is a new sending unit.

Having trouble unplugging the "black" plug, white one came off, but the black one for the cover is being stubborn. Tips?


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Re: Lumpy idle off start [Re: Michael Lee] #389041
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I got the damn plug off! Jesus that was tough. *continue laughing at the new*

I'm going to attempt to replace the sending unit myself once I get one.

*deep breath*

I'm seriously dizzy off the fumes jeez.

So I cranked the car for a good minute after removing the black and white plugs to empty out the lines, but the leaky line is still peeing fuel out. I guess it'll stop eventually.

I'll check back in an hour.


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Re: Lumpy idle off start [Re: Michael Lee] #389086
November 19, 2012 05:46 am UTC
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glad you figured this out mike smile

i'd try finding the unit and good luck cracking those flare nuts. they're a pita!!!!


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Re: Lumpy idle off start [Re: Michael Lee] #389091
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Start soaking that flare nut NOW, and as often as you can until you find a replacement, go out and spray it with WD-40.

It wouldnt hurt to soak the little M5 nuts holding the unit to the tank either.

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Re: Lumpy idle off start [Re: Rob Cauduro] #389092
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Originally Posted by Rob Cauduro
It wouldnt hurt to soak the little M5 nuts holding the unit to the tank either.


2G AWD models came with plastic ring to keep the assembly in place. M5 nuts used for FWD sending unit.

[Linked Image]


Michael, you can follow this guide on how to remove your sending unit.
http://www.vfaq.com/mods/pump-WB-2GAWD.html


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Re: Lumpy idle off start [Re: Michael Lee] #389093
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Thanks guys, I'll get spraying tonight. I bought some stuff from CT a little while ago.


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Re: Lumpy idle off start [Re: Michael Lee] #389094
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Definitely soak them nuts wink

Funny story, earlier this summer i did my fuel pump and to crack that nut loose, i was reeming on it so hard, when it cracked, my fist came all the way up to my cheek..kind of felt like chuck lidelle gave me a little super man wake up slap LOOL

Its a crammed area to work in, so that doesn't help either frown

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Re: Lumpy idle off start [Re: Alex Akachinskiy] #389095
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Originally Posted by Alex Akachinskiy
Originally Posted by Rob Cauduro
It wouldnt hurt to soak the little M5 nuts holding the unit to the tank either.


2G AWD models came with plastic ring to keep the assembly in place. M5 nuts used for FWD sending unit.

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Michael, you can follow this guide on how to remove your sending unit.
http://www.vfaq.com/mods/pump-WB-2GAWD.html


Right! Thought he was fwd for some reason, my bad

Re: Lumpy idle off start [Re: Michael Lee] #391742
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Any idea what size crow's foot is needed for the line at the top of the sending unit?


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Re: Lumpy idle off start [Re: Michael Lee] #391751
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Crows foot? Are you talking about small channel locks?


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Crow foot is a wrench end that you can put on an extention or ratchet. Why Not just get a line wrench Michael?

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awww I see! huh, never knew. smile

edit: forgot my shift key wink lol

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Re: Lumpy idle off start [Re: Michael Lee] #391756
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Again I'm the dumb blonde. This is the tool I was asked to have on hand for when help arrives tomorrow.


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So I tried taking it off.

Stupid question, which way do I turn? Since I'm taking the nut off the line at the top of the sending unit I'm turning counter clockwise no?

I was bending the piping coming off the sending unit itself so I stopped for now and sprayed penetrating fluid for now.

Not too concerned about damaging the sending unit in the car now, since I'll be replacing it.


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Re: Lumpy idle off start [Re: Michael Lee] #391996
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Just twist her off. It will much easier to get off then. But yes you are turning the right way the nut is just siezed on the line.

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The 2G swivel point is under the car IIRC, not at the sending unit.


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Re: Lumpy idle off start [Re: Michael Lee] #392003
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That's the "punch yourself in the face nut" becareful cracking it loose.


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Mek sure you dont smoke while attempting to loosen the bottom fitting lol.


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Re: Lumpy idle off start [Re: Mike Eng] #392008
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Originally Posted by Mike Eng
That's the "punch yourself in the face nut" becareful cracking it loose.

That what I heard which is why I said frack it and cut the the neck off and did -6 to the rail.


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On that note, I wish all of our lines were ran through the body..like suburu's. frown

Mike, how you making out? I ALMOST made this weekend a tdot trip but found what I was looking for locally tongue


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Well if you upgraded the lines you could run it though the cabin if you like.


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Originally Posted by Bryan Lawrence
Well if you upgraded the lines you could run it though the cabin if you like.


Only use teflon coated lines if you're going to do it that way, or your cabin will always smell like fuel.


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I got it out of the car just now! Only thing is I wonder how I'm going to get the hard line back onto the sending unit?


I had to twist and hold it with a clamp then keep twisting, so to put it back on without having the line twisted, I either have to get under the car and take it off there, then put it back on or twist it a bunch and hope to get it on straight.

I'm confused.


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If you have any plans to upgrade the fuel filter now would be a good time, then you can just run new lines with an fittings.


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The filter on a 2g is on the firewall, under the battery. Not sure if you want to go there just yet but Mike, can you snap a pic of what you're dealing with. Text it to me.


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Re: Lumpy idle off start [Re: Michael Lee] #392074
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It's just the line, I have to twist the hell out of it to get it back on properly without getting under the car.

I don't have a jack at the moment, so no going under the car.

My plan is to do just that, get all the lines on and then call CAA to get some gas and a boost since my battery is dead and hopefully she's up and running today. smile


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You going to have a hardtime guessing how much you have to twist it to get her back on straight. didn't your car come with a jack? get her as high as you can and put something under the tire.

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There's a jack in your avatar silly!! Use that one wink


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Originally Posted by Stephen Richardson
Crow foot is a wrench end that you can put on an extention or ratchet. Why Not just get a line wrench Michael?

Whoops!! My bad Michael. I got those mixed up. Here's a question that I never thought of. Is it possible to switch that line so the swivel is at the sending unit?? I just twisted my line until it came off because I assumed that mine was seized due to the condition. I just retwisted mine and then carefully lined it back up. I managed to get it tit and straight again. Lucky I guess.


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Yeah I twisted the sh!t out of the line, but couldn't twist it enough to get it on completely, but it's on.

I'm thinking I'm going to have to jack it up and do it right. Can't be "twistable" but completely tightly on no?

Of course dummy.


smile

So yeah, gonna borrow a jack from someone.

The Jack in the picture broke. frown


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Originally Posted by Johnny Larmond
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Crow foot is a wrench end that you can put on an extention or ratchet. Why Not just get a line wrench Michael?

Whoops!! My bad Michael. I got those mixed up. Here's a question that I never thought of. Is it possible to switch that line so the swivel is at the sending unit?? I just twisted my line until it came off because I assumed that mine was seized due to the condition. I just retwisted mine and then carefully lined it back up. I managed to get it tit and straight again. Lucky I guess.


Good question...can you reverse the line so the swivel is at the top?


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If anyone can lend me their Jack tomorrow for maybe 20mins or so to take off the fuel line at the bottom of the car please let me know.

It shouldn't take long. Sending unit is already in the car.

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Hey Micheal not trying to be a dick but a 2 ton floor jack is pretty cheap to buy If you are planning on fixing your own car that is something you should invest in and a few necessary tools. Again not trying to be a dick I would gladly lend you my jack and stands and any other tool that I have if you were closer.

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Had one, lent it to someone and it broke.

My buddy has one, but he couldn't drop by in time and is out of town now.

I may have to bus it over to CT and pick one up, but wanted to get a better one than I had last time so it doesn't crap out as quickly.

No offense taken.

Edit: none on sale at the moment either

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Originally Posted by Michael Lee
Had one, lent it to Brendan Warwick and it broke


Lmao its still there if you want to try it, but the cast knuckle snapped into a few pieces lol. I would bring you one, but still don't have a licence. Hell I would've came and fixed your car along time ago if I had my licence...
It is ct brand though, maybe it has lifetime warranty, I will try next time I go and let you know if you have a new one or not

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Also if I would have seen this sooner, for some reason in 2g's, the tank pressure will push gas out if there is a hole or bad connection. You need to undo the gas cap to release any and all pressure, before cracking anylines. If you just twisted the line till it came off order a new one.


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