I met with Brent Fortin today to test and tune the SPDI spark coil on plug system and overall, it works and works well.

Brent is a rep for SPDI who specializes in the fabrication and development of these units and he got in touch with me through a friend of mine who used to own a dsm.

Turns out, he already is a part of the Mitsubishi community and currently owns a fwd turbo Lancer

Anyway, the COP system is unique from the other systems out there. It uses coils from a 1000cc Suzuki GSXR motorcycle and not your tradtional intrepid coil.

It also has a programmable function which is done via a software that looks pretty user friendly. (I'll let him dwell into that).

All in all, I think it's great a Canadian product like this has become available.

And I'd like to welcome Brent to CLUB DSM CANADA!

on a side note; I wish I had take more pics of this testing we did today. We got so caught up in configuring the settings, the system, my car..and well, gawking at his

for more information, check out their webpage at; www.spdispark.com



sorry for the poor picture quality

I wish we could have seen a before and after dyno information, let us know if there is any change in fuel economy.

which of the 3 spark pulses are you using?

well, we tried 2 profiles (unsure of pulse), the first was responsive. comparable to the stock system. but the 2nd, seemed a lot smoother, and more responsive.

wish we had a dyno to compare too

I think that Garrett Logan tested one of these on his Lancer last Spring.

Ghislain

Looks great but OUCH!!! RIGHT IN THE WALLET!

Yes, i did test this system on the Lancer. I know Brent pretty well, he's got the same car as mine, only it's an 05. At the time i was not turbocharged. I wouldn't mind testing it again now that the motor is boosted...from what i've heard, they've learned a lot through all the test vehicles, and are making good progress...

I still think in order to sell these to DSMers, they might have to make more progress on the price....but I have expressed a willingness to offer them through the webstore, and time will tell if there is interest or not....

I don't get it. How does this thing make a plasma across a spark plug tip?

here's a link to a vid taken from the SEMA display;

http://s217.beta.photobucket.com/us...amp;_suid=135344020328707599140568772826

top = cdi
middle = basic oem spark
bottom = plasma

WOW, would this not help efficiency and mileage?

yes it would, especially seeing as you can program it to spark longer, burning more fuel..lower emissions for sure

Each region should have a set, then when we need to pass etest we can use them

But I agree with what Ziggy said, I may have interest but would like a good understanding of price.

Sounds expensive, but I wonder how much of a difference you'd see real world.

I'm interested.

Apparently they are having good results with it on other cars..increased fuel economy, and increased power...but I guess it is still a question of is it worth the investment? If the fuel economy difference is HUGE, it might be...

For me if it made a good amount of difference on both or a big difference on power I would be down. I don't care much for fuel economy, at least not on my talon

THIS!!!

Fuel economy would be a nice selling point for me seeing as this would be going in a DD. But that price NEEDS to drop considerably before I'd be onboard.

http://www.google.com/patents?id=IY...t&zoom=4#v=onepage&q&f=false

Here is what i can find on how it works.

I guess this system would be competing against a COP ignition system. What's the price for one of those full systems? I've seen a range of prices, but a proper full COP setup for much less than $1000 for a DSM is rare. And COP systems don't claim to increase fuel economy. So, I don't think $1000 is out of line at all. Would I pay a grand for such a system? No, but I wouldn't pay a grand for a COP system either. The point is, anyone in the market for a COP system must already be prepared to pay an amount similar to that.

The one im looking at from spark tech with a m&w pro 12 cdi is way more..

same! hopefully ziggy and brent can work out a good kit and price..we'll see what happens from there

Well I was trying to figure out what the difference was between DIY kit and the full kit. Only difference I found was no wiring harness, no coils, no bracket, I am sure we all have enough knowledge that we could go without those, but am curious as to why they are valued at $500

could always buy a used system, if you trust it.

I believe the coils are hard to source and pricey. I am waiting on specs for them to see if I can source them cheaper.

Looks pretty cool guys, I understand the excitement! I run 40 psi of boost on my stock coils with NGK plugs and NGK wires, with no misfires or bad fuel mileage that I can remember.

So why and at what point do I need this again for my DSM?

Beautiful, that's exactly what I was asking for. I had found the 600 GSXR coils because that's what it listed in the EVO description, they were only 14 each from ebay.

Reza, how many mpg are you getting. Last time I checked I was around 21, mostly city driving, which I guess isn't terrible but it's not great.

I never really cared soo much since a modded DSM is not about getting the best mileage. However, it does do over 600km on the highway and around 400km on the street with spirited boosted driving. 100km/10 litres is a good all round figure I'd say.

I remember my pops' old 2003 Altima 2.5 did 11L/100kms, so 10 is excellent if you think about what these little 2.0 engines are pushing out, power wise.

That's pretty good!

Brent has been waiting for his account to be approved by the powers that be, otherwise I'm sure he would have replied MANY times by now.

I'm pretty sure Brent will come on and back his product

Since you guys have already done numerous testing, I'd like to hear what you guinea pigs noticed with this. Is it just better mileage?

I'll chime in here.

First off, the chick on the website in the video is smokin. Just sayin.

Second, I recently upgraded my ignition system to a Sparktech COP and a Dynateck ARC-2 unit. My main reason for doing this was to allow for a spark-cut 2 step, and on an Auto, it makes a world of difference.

The advantage I've seen so far with the ARC-2 unit was it allowed me to run a larger gap with my plugs, thus improving fuel economy by allowing a more efficient burn. I logged an impressive 37.4psi/59.8lbs/min on my turbo this year, and not a single hiccup with spark. The spark cut 2 step is super fast, allowing me to lose less than 50rpms up on the converter (4100rpm launch).

The COP - well I got it for 2 reasons. 1: At 248XXXkms, I'm sure my coil was getting tired, I was having ignition breakup even after changing wires and closing my gap. Since my car is my DD, fuel economy is important.

2: It's CLEAN! No spark plug wires, a nice clean look and they are just as effective as the Coils. It's more compact, with faster response and less resistance (obviously).

This product is too expensive for it's benefits. The DSM coils have gone 9's and some of the fastest guys out there still use the OEM coil pack with wires. Hell, there's a thread on DSMLink where a guy has created plug wires with the same length and a FRACTION of the resistance (6.12Kilo-ohms vs 124.5 OHMS).

Just my $0.02. Not a need, more of a want.

Kind of like your reply Wryan.

I think the biggest advantage of the said SPDI Spark Machine is to benefit a platform that does not have as much support as ours does.

There is more that one way to make more powa and to reduce emission. I'm convinced this system is no "snake oil" but does not meet our needs because of it's price point if you compare to what is available for our Sleds.

Been able to increase the "spark duration" and strength would be a benefit to any automobile. One should consider if worthy for their needs and goals.

All in all I hope the makers of this product can read this topic and see what the DSM "pulse" is. We should remember these guys have put blood and sweat into a working Canadian product.

Ghislain

Garett: please chime in and comment if you think that you could now benefit from such a system. Maybe they will allow you to retest and compare pre and post Turbo.

Ghislain

i spoke with Brent the other day, i may have another opportunity to test the system in a few weeks...i'll get a few logs before hand. like my normal daily drive, and maybe some fun stuff...

That would be totally cool.

Our world is greathly supported and we like to support who provides for us.

Be objective in your observations and make sure you report here and on other forums.

Ghislain

Ryan, I've heard great reviews on the Dynateck Arc-2. That is probably the route I'd take if it came down to me needing one.

I've said to most, it's the best mod I've done to my car next to Link/SD. You can literally FEEL the difference in ignition quality.

I've been trying to wrap my head around this plug concept and I don't get it. I had to pick up a set of platinum or iridium plugs just for the testing. Copper plugs won't work according to Brent.

Garett, what plugs did you use?

Understandably copper's conductive properties aren't as effective as the plati's or iri's. BUT, without this plasma plug, how is it ACTUALLY making plasma? especially across a .024 gap?

Brent please chime in!

This plasma plug stuff is pretty impressive, found another company that did a dyno run and has documented differences, and it wasn't small. Could we just run plasma plugs with the stock components?