Bryan is a beast! Going through protein containers like through bag of chips.
BTW can you keep your empty containers for me?, they are perfect to dump dirt oil in.

I know a couple people who swear by kre-alkylin. So I should give it a try. I have almost a full bottle here at home! lol. Around 2000-2200 calories a day I maintain my body weight. I bumped it up to 2800-3000 and its a bit to much, I put on some fat already. So Im aiming for 2500-2700 now.


Damn, Its so hard to eat this much lol. I feel full 24/7. Thinking about getting some gainer that Gnanesh told me about. You on any Gainer Bryan ?

LOL Alex! I will definitely hang onto them.

As Alex knows, I have pretty much tried everything out there. I will say that I have yet to try a gainer, personally I would rather just eat more, your surplus is pretty extreme, I am impressed you can do it cleanly. As for gainers, I have however got some for a buddy. He burns calories like a made man and has been skin and bones since school. It seems to work well for him, he is using Mutant Mass, I am currently using Mutant Whey and taste is good but it doesn't mix well at all.

What gainer were you looking at?

Same one you just talked about. Mutant Mass. I have used All max nutrition. I eat about 2000 and get the rest from that. Only thing is its not sitting well in my stomach.

DUDE that's crazy you say that. I have only had issues with one protein in my life and it was all max!
Mutant Mass should be good, he said it's really thick but other than that it's good. Plus it's been around a long time and bad products don't last long.

Yeah I used Mutant Mass for a while, it does the job and the price is pretty reasonable as well. Popeyes carries the 15lb bags for around $70-$80.

Unless you like throwing money away, your better off going to supplementscanada.com, they own popeyes and sell for less than them usually.

Also because 15lbs isn't that much when it comes to Gainers, probably best to go with this.
http://www.supplementscanada.com/mass_mutant_2_x_15_lb.html

150 there. 70-80 popeyes. Its the same thing lol.

I usually order from www.allstarhealth.com But Ill check this site out now.

WOW they really push that body strong stuff. Allmax is much cheaper everywhere else I have gone.

Or just buy from bodybuilding.com and call it a day. Significantly cheaper than Popeyes or any of those sites you guys mentioned. Place a big order and it's well worth it. Even better if you get in with a few friends. I'm putting in a big order this week with a few buddies from school.

They don't carry mutant mass and the thing with gainer is you need a good amount and since shipping goes by the weight, it's not too cheap by the time it gets to your door. It's good for everything else, just not gainer in my opinion.

Can't comment on gainers. Never used them, never will. I'm an endomorph so I have no trouble gaining weight far too easily. But, if/when I do need to up calories...I just eat. I can easily eat 10-15000 calories per day if I feel like it...not that I do under any normal circumstances, but you ain't never seen anyone eat like me.

I agree with you on bodybuilding.com, it's where I get all my stuff. I am a big numbers counter so bodybuilding.com is gold because it tells me how much I will be spending per serving. ON is a good company so maybe look at their gainer if you want to try bodybuilding.com

Yeah probably chicken wings and onion rings . It gets hard with clean food. You eat so much but your still under your caloric surplus. Thats were the gainer comes in for me.

Nope, never with chicken wings and/or onion rings, although that would be a quick way to do it...I've been called a bottomless pit most of my life; I could do it with any food, really.

In general, though, I don't really find it hard to eat a lot and eat clean...in fact, it's quite easy, really. It can just get REALLY expensive REALLY quickly. Produce, meat/poultry, fish, cheese/dairy, etc....that stuff is costly. Depending on your macro ratio, though, it's not so bad if you're trying to get in more carbs. Whole grain/wheat products are more expensive than their white counterparts, typically, but are still cheap for what you get (think a bag of pasta, box of couscous, bag of oats, etc.).

How's everyone's goals coming along?

I keep debating with myself on when I should stop bodybuilding and start power-lifting again. I now realize I can't get the advantage of both so I am currently fully committing myself to body building at least for the next little while. Also been watching a bunch of guys making a lot of progress through working the muscles more often and longer by not going to failure. I call it bodybuilding for princesses, I will probably stick to this for the next while (maybe 6 months) and see where it gets me. Not sure I will do longer workouts but going to do body parts multiple times.

Weekly will look like this:
Monday - Shoulders
Tuesday - Back
Wednesday - Chest
Thursday - Legs
Friday - Chest and Back (lots of super-sets between the two)

Are Saturday and Sunday "off" days or are you using one of those days to work your arms? Never seen a routine without biceps and triceps muscles being worked.

Saturday and Sunday are off.
As I will be going back to power lifting and more practical strength, having jacked biceps is not something I want to develop.
It's not like they don't get worked when I am working the major muscles so I am not too worried. I previously had my arms integrated with their major muscles (Chest and Tri/Back and Bi)
I may add some tri work to my chest routine to improve my presses.

I've been going pretty hard at the gym, but am definitely not eating right. Not junky, but not 100% healthy.

I'm getting a helluva lot stronger, and my flexibility for Muay Thai is getting much better in my right hip, which I need for my kicks.

Things are going well. I just got sick, so this could help me drop some body fat %, haha.

Since moving to NL I'd say I've lost at least 60lbs. It's such a big difference that even the mechanic I go to commented haha.

I caulk it up changing my eating habits, more cooking my own meals and less take out (only real take out here is fast food or pizza and that's boring LOL). Plus now being more active with my job helps.

I was going to the gym in the summer time but I've since slacked off and lately my eating habits have gotten crappy again (still rarely eat fast food but eating more 'junk' then I should).

So it's time to get back on the wagon and lose more weight. I'm about 260lbs now (give or take) and want to lose another 60-100lbs. Before I stopped with the gym I was doing Kris Gethin's 12 Week Hardcore Trainer (http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/kris-gethin-12-week-daily-trainer.html) and I felt great. I think it's about time I started again.

BodyBuilding.com has become a huge resource for me for all my workouts. Seeing pictures of you working on your car I would not have guessed you were 260lbs!

Good work on your progress so far, most people that are trying to loose as much weight as you have stop after the first 10lbs because they assume that the rest of the weight will drop as easy as the first 10, not realizing the first ten was mostly water weight.

Good stuff Michael! Supplements Canada posted something yesterday that surprised me, said 80% of your food should be good food. I have always stuck by the 90% rule. LOL, I hate getting sick, depending on how long you avoid the gym you may lose muscle too!

Thanks Bryan, I hide my fat arse well lol.
I do want to make some big changes though.

LOL, I started on the opposite side of the spectrum. Was tiny and consistently picked on.
If there is anything I can help you with let me know!!

I'm actually 248 now, who knew?!

Been hard at the trainer all week, my muscles are killing me!
Back/biceps today, should be fun.

That's my favorite day!! Back days are the best!

I'm more of a leg day fan haha.

WOW, I that's impressive, not many people are. Used to be though.

Now it just means there is a chance I could break myself because I come upstairs to work, and then when I go back down stairs to grab something I almost break myself because I have somehow forgotten that I just finished a leg workout.

Alright guys I just ordered some samples from Canadian Protein as I am planning on buying 25lbs of protein from them and want to test it out before I do so.
It will be a while until I order but I am wondering if anyone would be interested in jumping in, at 25lbs you will be paying $35 per 5lbs. If no one wants to commit to that I don't mind dividing up what I buy if you want to try before you buy a huge one.

What brand and type of protien ?

Edit: Im thinking about getting Hemp protien powder. You ever look into that ?

CanadianProtein has their own brand, so that what I am looking at. I have ordered Whey Concentrate and Whey Blend samples to test, as I have had issues with AllMAX and don't want to repeat.
I have never hear of the before, the only weird one I have heard of was new zealand, someone gave me 2 lbs they didn't want and it was the worst tasting ish ever, gave it to my cousin cause he's in highschool and he said it was terrible too but he finished it anyways.

Hemp protien is not a brand. It is made from the Hemp Cannabis plant. One of the purest forms of protien from plants.

I realize that, so is New Zealand, supposedly it is a higher quality because New Zealand has better quality Dairy or something like this.
Link me some, I have never seen it before!

Well Sandra and I dug the treadmill out of the basement yesterday.. and today we did 30 minutes of the "couch to 5k" on our phones! 30 minutes a day for 3 days a week.

Goal.. to look good for shoot out!

Great stuff Jay! Keep at it, but why the treadmill? You guys have the great outdoors to run!

I hate treadmills.

Yeah I am not a huge fan of the treadmill either.
It is weird going from one to the other too. I had been running on the tread mill for a while then decided to go outside, man my legs were killing me and I was beat at the end of my jog.

Yup, running outside on a real surface is much more difficult, because you're propelling yourself, but on a treadmill you're essentially hopping on the spot as the ground moves.

MUCH different.

the treadmill is for gettingus ready for the great out doors. we have people running past our house all the time. No need for them to see us dieing on the side of the road... We need to get in good enough shape to aleast make it around the block first.

I honestly thought that was the way it was but definitely not the case, your better off going for a speed walk or jogging around outside, it will help much more.

You always need a start! If you guys feel comfortable dong treadmill than keep doing it regardless what everyone say. There will always be some other better away. Not everyone is same. Keep on doing it

Alright boys, so this video just got posted and I wanted to share it with you guys.
If this doesn't motivate you then I don't know what will!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxAc97K2I5M