I would be down for some lapping this year. But its expensive. I think you will quickly go thought tires and brakes. I was thinking of doing the advanced driver training course they offer at Cayuga so it was a more controlled environment. But if you guys set up a group outing I would be interested. I know a lot of clubs rent out the track and it brings down the price if you have enough people going.

I have an oil cooler bigger rad,fans and everything is wrapped with thermal tape. The exhaust is also wrapped all the way to the cat. I run 180deg thermostat with water wetter and control the fans with the ac switch. I also use 10w40 royal purple xpr oil. With that set up all of my temps stay pretty normal under all driving conditions from numerous 30psi lapping days(long time ago) to recent numerous 40psi back to back drag passes. I never was able to run my car hard enough for it to get too hot. As long as everything is working properly you will be OK. As for tires if you show up on some 10 year old all season gems you will very quickly finish them off. Shannonville is a great track to learn things about your car and discover your limits. It will also expose all the short cuts you took when working on the car. Loose clamps, bad\old couplers, loose bolts or overdue maintenance. Even if you don't drive there most people that show up there are willing to take passengers. I always thought it's funny when people show up to race and do 2 laps or couple passes down the 1/4 and have to let the car cool down because the car is too hot. Set up the car properly and you will have more fun with it. Whats the sense of having a car that can put out good numbers only under certain conditions on slicks. I know we all have race cars . So get out and enjoy your car and stop making excuses.

Not so sure about that, the HTA 35R has a pretty good kick to it when it spools mid corner. My car is setup to oversteer, so I'm thinking at 35psi, it would be a handful.

At 36psi, it can spin all 4 on a second gear roll on(& were not talking with crap rubber either)

Tim: track days are not too bad for tires as long as you keep them full of air and don't overdrive the car.

For a DSM, in my opinion, you need significantly upgraded brake pads (or a bigger set of brakes all together). My first track day I ran hawk HP+ and they were just barely good enough, but for the same $ you can go to one of their new race pads which have no problem (at least at my power level). With proper pads, they last a LONG time because they are so hard, but they aren't cheap. With regular street pads I would guess you'll melt them in 1 20 minute session.

Funnily enough for such a heavy pig of a car, on stock calipers and brembo blanks with a set of race pads (and freshly bled elf fluid) in I usually have no problem braking with, or out braking, just about anybody in my run group. And I have to slow down more to make it around the corners too!

Daren's got Brakes so he'll be fine.

I'm getting excited for this season. Should be fun with having a couple of you guys come out.

Does anyone know if the 90 oil housing restrict flow to the cooler till its up to temp? I need go back and study it but thought I'd ask.

I'm pretty sure it does. That "Brass" looking thing is responsable for that.

I'm with Ghiz, believe I recall reading there's a temp switch on the 90 housing cooler.

Currently use the Wilwood BP-10 pads daily. They are supposed to be good with what they call "lighter" track use as well. I'm sure they'll be fine to start out with & if required they make options all the way to full out race only in several "blends".

The BP-10's Cf peaks right around the 750-800F range & is a pretty "flat" curve. Pads should be good to the 1000F or so range & ideal area would be ~600-1000F.

All this track talk So when is the first DSM track day this year? I wanna come watch you guys drive your DSM's in circles around Shannonville. I dare not beat on any of my cars. I'll bring the popcorn though or maybe a BBQ

Most clubs have yet to release there schedules but i'll likely be going out with either of these two groups this year.


http://www.touge.ca/index2.htm
http://www.sigmatimeattack.ca/

I'm budgeting 4 or 5 tracks this year. Should finish off the set of RS2s I have.

Yay, Reza's cooking us lunch!

Can we coordinate something here?

http://www.calabogiemotorsports.com/

My pleasure. Let's make it a DSM day since we have soo many track racers in this thread. Lunch for club DSM....

Good luck!!

$300 per person for a full track day, unless the fees have gone up. You have to buy a $3000 package which can be split between ten guys on one day or used by one person. I tried getting something together there a while back, the fees were outrageous.

And for the GTA guys, it's a bit of a hawl.

Cayuga, Shannonville or Mosport would be my choices.

Heck even 20 pers; that would mean $150 each.

Problem would be to have that many to comit and follow through...

Ghislain

There's another forum which is Ottawa based; mco.org. And I plan to join these guys.

A co-worker of mine tracks there weekly from 5pm-7pm for I think $150...

When I register and get some experience here under my belt, I'll post up some dates and times if we can make an event of it.

It's a GORGEOUS track!

Gorgeous it may be, but $150 for 2 hours (and who knows how much of those 2 hours you actually get on the track) is ridiculous. I can get a full day of lapping at many closer tracks for that price or not much more...

Sorry, it's $130. And you're right, it's still pretty steep.

When I get there, and get going, I'll post back more info.

I use to Lap at S'ville, the organiser was from Kingston and use to charge $75 or less for a 3hrs block.

I even paid as low as $35 for a 3 hour block. This Dude use to only allow "selected" individuals to Lap. I even seen a few idiots getting kicked out for not allowing faster cars to pass. His organization was flaless.

Attrition would allow those who had reliable cars to lap till thet ran out of fuel.

I'll try to contact him and see if he is still around.

Ghislain

Cayuga has evening lapping for a reasonable price, especially towards the middle of the summer when it doesn't get dark until late.

Well organized track days are fun.

Poorly organized track days (AKA anything done by a honda club:)) are usually just scary.

Best quote ever by an organizer:
"When you go to a track day no one is impressed with how fast your car is, they are impressed when you don't hit them"

Or they are impress that you are still running for 45 mins straight during the last hour of the day.

The variety of awesome cars that show up at those Touge events makes their outings look like a real fun time.

Hey Ghis, the Kingston boys are still doing the Shannonville lapping days you can find them here.

http://stlac.ca/
They go to many different venues. I get the occasional e-mail from Zclub about an event at Sville, some are invitational only so you have to check with them.

I've been to many stlac events, they are TOP notch.

i haven't done the long track at shannonville yet..never been to calabogie, but i looked at mosport on google maps, and it looks awesome.

My first track day of the year will be June 30th. Between moving the shop, studying for exams and getting the car prepped doubt I can make it to one before then.

i'm in for June 30th, Sigma Time Attack. Who else wants to join?

You will really enjoy yourself going out there with the Sigma guys. I will probably come visit on the 30th, but I don't think my car will be ready yet. Still need to find another rim for my R-Comps to replace the broken one.

Wont be able to free myself for that day...

Daren, you better speak up and come out! I'm not powder coating your stuff if you say no!

Time attack for my first outing? WTF happened to baby steps

Most of the day is open lapping. The time attack portion is only in the afternoon. If you don't want to run your car through time attack, I'll do it for you

Spent monday at shannonville. Got to really test out my new suspension set-up. Even on nearing end of life sumitomo BS street tires I was keeping up with most of the cars in my rungroup. Still can't hang with guys in Z06's that know what they are doing, but I can hang with guys in vipers that don't konw what they are doing! Speeds through turn 1 were 140, a bit higher at times the long straight I usually let off at 170km/hr to try to save my brakes for the rest of the course.

Finally found where the oil smoke I've had for a while is coming from...my catch can! So I guess probably bad rings or bad valve seals but didn't effect power (nice cool day = boosty boosty).

WIth the extra speed I carry through corners I learned I need more brakes, when I was slower last year a good set of pads was sufficient but I took a 3/4 new set of race pads down to metal on metal in 8 sessions!

For posterity I ran my konis full soft in the rear and 1 turn from hard in the front, seemed to have good balance.

Tire pressures were set to 36psi all around in the morning and let a bit out of the fronts as the day got hotter (end of session pressures were around 40/36 front rear).

With my 1.5-2.0 degree front camber and ~0.75 degrees rear my tire wear was very even. Also not really much noticable tire wear other than tearing off any remaining sharp edges on the tire blocks (though I am pretty good about using feedback from the tires to make sure I don't over drive them).

My new radiator ducting made a huge difference. Temp needle never moved once! Compared to last year where most sessions ended with my DSMlink 'you're motor is about to over heat' check engine light.

Sounds like a good time. Let me know when you're hitting the track next - I'd love to come see you run and even ride along if the spot is free

Post pictures of your rad ducting...I am going to be doing my own in upcoming weeks (as well as ducting for the front brakes) and am always interested in different setups. What material/thickness/etc. did you use and how did you mount it?

Where abouts are you in ontario?

Can't really get pics of it now, its all under the bumper. I just bought a roll of aluminum sheet(maybe 0.06") from canadian tire (impulse buy). I used cardboard to test different shapes until I found something that looked like it would do the trick.

I used one piece on each side between the intercooler and rad (several tabs sticking out to fill gaps). I used aluminum tape to attach it and fill in all gaps. I also made some small pieces of sheet to make sure the intercooler was sealed to the bumper support/cross member thing (that includes the back side of the support beam). Last step was to remove the hood latch fill in all the holes on the top of the latch support.

I like the aluminum tape look when I open the hood...why? 'cause racecar!

I'd love to know what you do for brake ducts. Many have tried, few have succeded.

I'll pm you.

You did basically what I was thinking of for ducting...the tape and all

For brake ducts, I'm still thinking about it...would have a lot more options if I had access to a (TIG) welder. I have access to a machine shop, but no welders.

My main concern right now is rad ducting first, brake ducting second.

When I can afford to, I'm going to grab a Scirocco style rad so I can move it a fair bit forward, grab a single SPAL/FAL extreme-duty fan and duct my rad straight out the hood with a sealed duct. I'm sure you've seen the thread on tuners where the guy does it on his 2G.

I have seen that thread! Very cool!

Hey isn't it all concealed too? So you could run it like that all year round if you really wanted to.

post a link of said thread please.. I wanna see too!

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/custom-fabrication/386716-my-ducted-radiator-setup-road-racing.html

You're welcome!

That would be it.

Thanks for saving me a trip through my thousand bookmarks