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1g Keyless entry #396540
March 05, 2013 11:36 pm UTC
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Alright, I have installed one of those generic keyless entry set-ups for my 1g. The doors have been upgraded with actuators and the aftermarket brain will be in the cabin.

The question I have is: Is there a way to use the existing door connections to wire up the actuators to the aftermarket unit for keyless entry? By this I mean, inside the door resides a 3 prong connection in both doors for that effect, obviously made for the OEM keyless system. It has power and ground, as well, I'm guessing, a switch wire for unlock/lock.

Where is the relay for this OEM switch and can it be used with the aftermarket unit. If so how and which wire?

I've read this:

http://www.the12volt.com/installbay/alarmdetail/766.html
http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/newbie-forum/446575-power-locks-control-unit.html

some others but that's the main ones. I can get it to work with the aftermarket unit only but getting those wires through the door and dash is a pain and figured using stock harnesses made for it would probably be easier and look better.


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Re: 1g Keyless entry [Re: Guillaume Berton] #396555
March 06, 2013 04:02 am UTC
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The 3 wire would be for the door lock switch. You could use the wires but you only need two of them. You will need two relays bosch style will work fine. The chance of you having the factory relay is slim if your car doesnt already have power doorlocks. It a pretty simple install all aftermarket alarms are capable of controlling door locks and should have a simple diagram for the 2 relays.

Re: 1g Keyless entry [Re: Guillaume Berton] #396853
March 08, 2013 12:47 am UTC
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What keyless system are you working with?

Re: 1g Keyless entry [Re: Guillaume Berton] #396860
March 08, 2013 01:30 am UTC
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Just a random "made in china" one. Came with a brain and actuators with remote. I actually got it to work today. It's a random mod, but it made my day, it's simple in its idea but it sure does give its weight in gold in terms of practicality. You were right on only 2 wires being needed. I used the OEM harness that was in the door (Used ground and signals for driver and only signals on the passenger side). Works like a charm. Thanks for the help!

I was playing like a little kid with "lock....unlock...lock" neighbors must of thought I was going nuts tongue

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Re: 1g Keyless entry [Re: Guillaume Berton] #396864
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Glad you got it working.

Re: 1g Keyless entry [Re: Guillaume Berton] #396938
March 08, 2013 06:27 pm UTC
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Seeing as we're talking about keyless entry, and you folks are pretty clever, are there any aftermarket dongles that work with the stock 2G system?


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Re: 1g Keyless entry [Re: Guillaume Berton] #396941
March 08, 2013 06:34 pm UTC
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Which stock system? Stock alarm or power door locks?

Re: 1g Keyless entry [Re: Guillaume Berton] #396954
March 08, 2013 07:11 pm UTC
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There is an alarm, and last time I took the rear 1/4 panel off, I saw that I have the module. So, I'm going to assume both as I do have power locks.


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Re: 1g Keyless entry [Re: Guillaume Berton] #396970
March 08, 2013 09:09 pm UTC
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We were talking about this during the weeks, Alex said there is some fancy trick to sink up a remote with the stock module.


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Re: 1g Keyless entry [Re: Guillaume Berton] #396981
March 09, 2013 12:40 am UTC
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Go on....


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Re: 1g Keyless entry [Re: Guillaume Berton] #396983
March 09, 2013 12:45 am UTC
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How is your alarm activated? By locking the door? I asume you dont have a factory remote. Did 2g come with remotes?

Re: 1g Keyless entry [Re: Guillaume Berton] #396986
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No remote. Mitsu says my car didn't come with one, but the keyless entry module is present in the car.
My alarm is activated my locking the doors with the key.


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Re: 1g Keyless entry [Re: Guillaume Berton] #396987
March 09, 2013 01:26 am UTC
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From what I know the keyless module will interface with your factory alarm. They all mostly have a signal wire to send to the factory module.

Re: 1g Keyless entry [Re: Guillaume Berton] #396988
March 09, 2013 01:28 am UTC
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I do believe you are correct.
My alarm is only activated via the key lock on the exterior of the car. If I take my key from the ignition, and lock the doors from the inside, it doesn't activate.


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Re: 1g Keyless entry [Re: Guillaume Berton] #396990
March 09, 2013 01:39 am UTC
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Yeah there will just be a switch on the back of the key cylinder. Should be an easy tie in. I used a cheap remote start on my Oddessy and got keyless acess.

Re: 1g Keyless entry [Re: Guillaume Berton] #396996
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That's option B. A second party alarm system. I'd like to keep the stock system seeing as it's already there.
Are we talking about Alex Akachinskiy?


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Re: 1g Keyless entry [Re: Guillaume Berton] #397006
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Yeah we are, I was hoping he would have piped up by now.
The last post here sounds like what he was referring to, the question is how do you know a fob is compatible: http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/newbie-forum/97199-question-about-factory-alarm-2gs-2.html


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Re: 1g Keyless entry [Re: Guillaume Berton] #397010
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But can you use any old FOB?


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Re: 1g Keyless entry [Re: Guillaume Berton] #397011
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No you need the proper coded one if you want use factory alarm. FCC GQ43VT6T

Under 20 bucks

http://www.keylessentryremotefob.com/product_p/gq43vt6t.htm

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Re: 1g Keyless entry [Re: Guillaume Berton] #397018
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Ah. That's the info I was looking for.


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