Re: Design Project Ideas
[Re: Salomon Ponte]
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October 07, 2013 01:53 pm UTC
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I definitely know all about the 8/9 setup did a ton of research on it as I was searching for the bits. The reason they are not direct is the part that bolts to the hub is much larger on the evo (so there is need for spacers) and pretty sure the bolts are larger too.
I am hoping that through watching your progress and reading all of this I will get an understanding of what exactly is needed for a proper setup.
I think that's the way something like this needs to be done! Then you can make sure you are doing things proper without worrying about a budget!
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Re: Design Project Ideas
[Re: Salomon Ponte]
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October 07, 2013 02:00 pm UTC
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Well look at it this way, with these knuckles you will need to run the Evo Brembos OR any brake kit meant to fit on the Evo 8/9, there's money right there. You will need to run Evo suspension, again, more money right there. If I change the lower pickup location then you're looking at a custom lower A-arm to do it properly (I'd switch to a spherical bearing, etc.)...a lot more money...so, yes, these will be expensive but it's everything else you need for a complete setup that is really going to add up. Unlike engine/power mods, suspension is one thing that is best upgraded all at once, versus in bits and pieces.
All said and done, for a full-out race suspension/handling/dynamics setup (custom knuckles, custom control arms, a-arms, race struts, big brake kit, tubular front and rear subframes, bushings, etc.) you're looking well into the 5-digit territory. Hell, a high-end BBK will cost you $5k (easily).
All that being said, I'd rather design without a budget in mind and then have the freedom to backtrack from the ideal design to get something feasible that suits my needs versus the opposite.
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Re: Design Project Ideas
[Re: Salomon Ponte]
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October 07, 2013 03:06 pm UTC
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Which suspension are you planning on running? What will you being doing for the top hat?
My google skills aren't having much luck right now, what is an a-arm?
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Re: Design Project Ideas
[Re: Jay Stacey]
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October 07, 2013 03:16 pm UTC
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Or a 30-70 split center dif. I already run one of these rare items in my 1g DSM. Cusco 30-70 split, 4 spider center differential with internal clutch pack lsd. This thing works like a charm Regular 4 spider on left, cusco 4 spider lsd center diff on right:
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Re: Design Project Ideas
[Re: Corte Beech]
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October 07, 2013 09:36 pm UTC
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From what I read you are making an Evo 4 front hub. They can bolt on any brembo found on any year evo. My brother runs them on his Evo 3. The only difference is the type of ball joint it takes, But thats why you would run Evo 4 control arms that are cast aluminum. I and also believe they use the same wheel bearings as 8&9 evos,
I haven't checked if they fit in 1g but it looks indentical. I should be trying this in a few weeks though. Interesting, didn't know this. Can't imagine they're very easy (or cheap) to get ones hands on, though. Still, mine will be lighter, stronger and eventually, have optimized geometry in addition to allowing for direct bolt-on compatibility with Evo 8/9 struts.
Last edited by Salomon Ponte; October 07, 2013 09:36 pm UTC.
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Re: Design Project Ideas
[Re: Salomon Ponte]
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April 24, 2014 06:02 pm UTC
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Hey Sal, what ever happened to this?
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Re: Design Project Ideas
[Re: Salomon Ponte]
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April 24, 2014 06:15 pm UTC
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Re: Design Project Ideas
[Re: Salomon Ponte]
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April 24, 2014 06:38 pm UTC
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Are the cars coming with you or are you leaving everything here?
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