Whos running which... and how to do you like it?... I have an aftermarket shirt thro on my 2g and it feels notchy and seems to miss the gears easy.. I thoughtit was my clutch or something wrong with the shift cables.. but from reading.. alot of people find he aftermarket short thros the problem and when going back to stock shifter was better?

I have a Neuspeed short shifter in my 2g, shifts fine never missed a step when I was driving it. It's a rare part though so chances are you may not find another one.

I'm running the Ralco Short shift and I love it...BUT! there are inherent issues with the Fadenza and Ralco shifters, The joint between the shaft and pivot point comes apart due to a bad weld from factory (I went through 2).

It doesn't take much to fix (properly)and I believe that when I told Ziggy of this reoccurring issue he made his own revisions on his remaining stock so failure shouldn't be an issue any longer.

Great height and much shorter throws..

Gets an A+ from me

Switch back to an OEM shifter base, your tranny will thank you for it.

I'm using the Megan Racing short throw, optional 50% or 33% shorter IIRC.

I have the 50% selected and it's too close to the stereo head unit when in fifth gear.

I'll likely switch it to the 33%.

Our shifter's (2g's) are gay!!!! The oem one sticks up like a truck shifter and although feels "ok"..the throws are long. And the console makes it look even weirder when in 2nd, or 4th gear. By just looking at it, you would think the shifter was in neutral.

after I added the weighted leather shift knob and both shifter base and under hood bushings I now have a super solid and positive shifting NON SLOPPY 2g shifting. it feels like my buddies S2000..and thats good enough for this picky guy

Running a oem shifter that has been shortened, at the perfect height so when my hand is on it and my elbow on the center console, my arm is perfectly level. All new bushings and solid base bushings and solid under hood bushings, LOVE it.

I've driven a couple cars with aftermarket short throws and never really liked the feel.

jay I have a shortened oem shifter if you want... free to you!

+1 for solid shifter and under hood bushings, avoid the ES crap, it won't last in a dd.

Ya.. I have the skate board wheel bearings in the tranny side. Will be using solid base bushings and more skatebaord bearings for the cable.

I may take you up on the offer terry.. If I dont grab one up before.


Anyone else got some opinions.....

Im using a Findanza short shifter. BUT........I highly modified my shifter base to be a whole new monster. I actually CNC machined new parts where plastic and rubber were before. I also made high precision fit bushings made to a tight tolerance to ride on a custom made bolt that runs through the whole linkage.

This combined with new brass bushings on the tranny, and a fresh set of OEM shifter base bushings in the cockpit, makes for a damn nice feel

I CANT WAIT TO DRIVE THIS CAR. I put a LOT of time and effort into my shift setup. Just sitting in the seat, and shifting gears while the car is up on jack stands makes me smile. Its literally the niccest feel Ive ever felt on any car ive driven.

Lets hope it shifts once the car is running

Its one of the only things I didnt take pics of. Its all together now, and hard to show, but I DO have CAD files for all the parts I manufactured, and I can show some screen shots of the cad file when I dig them up.

I suggest NOT using solid base bushings. For one, it makes it loud

Secondly, as Reza said, your tranny will take more of a beating that way. When your on the gas, and shift with authority, pushing to much this way or that way with solid base bushings I think puts too much stress on the forks, where as the OEM rubber when new, quiets the shifting down significantly, and takes some slack and force off the tranny side linkage

I tried Solid bushings at the base, and I prefer the OEM. But My base is "slack free" and everything else is tight tight tight, so to me the noise was the thing that made me not use the solid base bushings.

Last note, Im rocking an OEM weighted shift knob. I personally feel Ive got the perfect shift setup ATM. (next to an Ikeya sequential )

Those CAD files would be boss! I'll have my buddy pop out a few in stainless steel.

I made all my parts out of aluminum. I used oilite bronze for the bushings I made. The custom bolt I made using an existing stainless steel bolt, then turned the shank to match the busings which press into the findanza, which I also bored to be more perfectly round and tight

If you had said anything other then this, I would of been shocked

Oh, and I've used the Fidanza one and I really liked it. Nice, smooth, tight, and short.
No idea which I have installed now because it cams with the car, but it appears to be a pretty solid piece.

Oilite is damn near as expensive as gold...

I would like to see pictures of this setup, though!

Rob coming in with the crazy set up as usual.

I've got a stock shifter, never like short throws, with all solid bushings and brass bushings under the hood. I've also completely cleaned up (no more rust) my entire shifter assembly and rebuilt it with all new bushings.

Ya.. As soon as seen Robs name I thought... Well this is gonna be awsome... but prolly way outa my league!

Im still trying to figure out how to convince him to make me an underbody brace for cheap!

Let me figure mine out first, then I'll show you how I did it

Its not crazy, Nothing in the design changed. Only the materials used, and the tolerance of the fitment of all the components

Oilite is cheap at princess auto, they sell bushings ready for machining.

If you have to buy a bar, yes its costly.

I would have to take it all apart to take pics of the actual work. It looks the same assembled as any other base to be honest.

Hence why I wanted to show screen shots of my models of the replaced parts, once I find the damn USB stick they are on

....... yep... crazy

My previous car had a shortened OEM with a light metal knob and it took some effort to put into gears, but felt okay.

Switched to an OEM stick, and weighted knob and it felt so different.

New car, OEM stick, lightweight knob, felt weird to me, as the stick had a tendency to flick/spring back into neutral position, and throws felt so damn short, because of it.

Thought it was a short throw shifter.

Threw on my weighted knob and it felt "normal" to me again.

The weighted knob makes so much of a difference, whether it be a positive one or a negative one is purely preference.

I prefer the weighted shift knob.

Edit: Stock height throws might seem long, but I mean how short do you want it? The stock throws give me confidence that it's in gear fully. I drove my friend's STI and holy cow, the throws were so short, took time to adjust, and I had no idea if it was in gear or not for the first 5mins.

Yeah I was really disappointed when I couldn't mount that knob on the short throw. The thread's are completely different. And that fuckin thing cost me $90 new at the dealer.

I went from a stock 1g to a 2g stock shift knob, and that made a nice difference, then I went to a weighted shift know and that made a huge differenc!

Im using a RTM weighted shift knob already.

I'm using the OEM weighted knob along with the China Fidanza short throw shifter along with brass bushings on the tranny side and solid shifter base bushings. Shifting is awful most of the time.

Ideally I PERSONALLY PREFER the knob heavy and as close to the wheel as possible while at the same time having to do as little movement as possible.

Theres no doubt when I shift Im in gear. I took the extra effort to eliminate ANY SLACK in the entire system, and when there is no back lash, you KNOW when your in gear by simply feeling it, not by how much it moves.

Custom machined = crazy in my book lol.

So where do I send my shifter base to get the same treatment?

Especially important when racing. It's why I'm looking at making a shifter extender along the lines of this http://www.twmperformance.com/shifterextenders/index.htm

Odd issue.
I rebuilt my base yesterday and I've got trouble getting into 1st and 2nd. I've isolated it to the spring on the shifter base (the return spring). I tried moving the arms around on the spring and then I couldn't get into 5th or Reverse.
It's not that I can't get into gear it's just very hard to move the shifter (there's no resistance going into gear, it's not the trans it's the shifter).

How the heck does this spring go in? I might replace the damned thing!

I've used a B&M short throw shifter for years. It has two settings, something like a 50% reduction & a 30%. I found the 50% to be too much reduction in throw & made shifting harder then I wanted. The lesser reduction is much better.

I'm running the weighted OEM shift knob as well, which did improve shift feel when I upgraded.

Believe ES bushings under the shifter plate & bearings at the tranny.

Il getting a full day today with the car.. Ill tear out the comsole and see what brand it is.

Oh yeah, I have the symborski kit in the old car, and one now apparently has the RTM kit. Didn't check.

I think the difference is aluminium versus stainless steel.

I'm rocking the RTM ones.

Will be adjusting the Megan to 30% instead of 50% because in fifth gear, it blocks my head unit and is a nuissance for simply that reason.

These shifters are from a perfect science. Which is unfortunate, considering how much fun and how gorgeous these cars are.

I did notice a HELL of a difference when I installed the Megan shifter, brass bushings under the hood, and the RTM solid base bushings. It took away that sloppy feeling it had when in gear, and movement from side to side.

I'll likely never upgrade any further than what I've done. It's an improvement from what it was...and I still recommend the Megan shifter. It's a solid construction, unlike some past ones I've owned back in my Honda days..I literally broke two A/M shifters while daily driving..the knob snapped right off from the threads.

OK so this the one I have.It has no name on iy.. but it does have 2 settings. I took the bolt out and used the lower hole and now it shifts much better.

Looks like a B&M to me

I agree!

It looks like you're rocking the rubber base bushings. Why not try the RTM ones? they're not priced too bad.

Made a noticeable difference to me.

https://www.rtmracing.com/xcart/product.php?productid=18543&cat=0&page=1

Which is better?

Aluminium under hood
https://www.rtmracing.com/xcart/product.php?productid=18509&cat=0&page=1

Brass under hood
https://www.rtmracing.com/xcart/product.php?productid=16295&cat=0&page=1

I actually have some aluminum ones from a part out ill install later.


Aluminum... its got to be the funnest word to type on a qwerty key board!

You just reminded me of this;

Hey.. I would have spent more effort in keyboarding class. but who would have known back in 1993 that 20 years later typing would be 90% of everyda. personal comunication.


And btw I never touch my laptop anymore. this is all my thumbs on my samsung phone no fingures for me.

It is really funny when you think about it. Not long ago speech recognition was getting to be a big thing, but now we have taken this huge step BACKWARDS and type everything rather than speak.

Speech recognition is still pretty far off, people don't trust it so they end up being more distracted when using it in the car.
I personally like it and use it once in a while.

Wow, this topic has really "shifted" off topic

Well Im happy at the moment with the adjustment on the current shifter. It will have to do for now I gotta get this car ready for the track on friday. And all my lights dicided to stop working.. Ill prolly grab your shifter Terry next time im in town.. prolly during the Toronto importfest.


But By all means continue chatting. I have a KITT voice assistant on my phone. It will even play the knight rider theme song if I ask.

haha that's cool. Road noise is mad in my car so I usually avoid using the voice as it gets a little frustrating

That's too bad. Ever since I installed a new deck with bluetooth, I love my car THAT much more

But ambient noise is an issue with any of the windows open. And without A/C...on a hot summer day, what a PITA it is to answer or make a call while driving.

Better safe than sorry though.

Or could be a B&M knock off, there's probably more DSM's rocking fakes vs real ones.

I seem to recall threads years & years ago about the differences & possibly the knock offs having certain issues but its been so long I have no idea what they were now.

From what I've read, blue is a definite B&M purple is the one that's copied. That's from what I've read anyway.

This is the one I'm using, it's purple. Or at least I think it is, I'm mildly colour blind.

It's purple. Almost looks like 'HKS Purple'.

Ya mines like that bu blue.. And I just switched from the top hole to the bottom hole and it feels way better.

Hmm. I too have that one. Never knew there were 2 holes. (insert sexual joke here)
I'll take a look into that.

Well I am sure the second hole is a little tighter so it should feel better

Well the second hole was alittle harder to get into. Hand to bend her right over to manuvour my tool in a position it could be effective.Had to press my knob against the stereo

Sounds pretty accurate.

Sounds like my Friday night

I hope you're not the stereo..

No, he's the woofer.