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August 11, 2005 02:57 am UTC
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I have an opprtunity to buy a tranny. Here's the code: kw5m332npxvml5178
I know the w5m332 means US model 1g AWD.
My JDM that has ruined my life has a W after the 332, this means Galant VR4 RS or EVO.
I need the N after the 332, but I've never seen a K at the beginning of the code.
Does anyone know what the K means at the beginning of the code?
Thanks
-Mike

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Re: ATTN: tranny code pros #41016
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Here is some info I am copying and pasting from the Galant forums, just for the archives.
I am sure that tranny should be fine.

JDM Transmissions

Transmission model numbers that I know will interchange with my 1991
> Mitsubishi Galant VR4 AWD 5spd turbo:
>
> Model Comments
>
> w5m33-2-NQBK 91-2 Galant VR4 up to 4/92
> w5m33-2-NQBM 92 Galant VR4 mfg 5/92
> w5m33-2-NPXV 91-94 Eclipse AWD 5spd mfg 6/90-2/94
> w5m33-2-NNZT 95? Eclipse AWD 5spd mfg 3/94 [not sure about this
one]
> w5m33-2-NPZT 95-96 Eclipse AWD 5spd mfg 3/94-6/96
>
> From my friends with a switchable 2WD->4WD JDM Galant trans that I
> would LOVE to get a hold of:
> C5OPH-EK1420 or
> C5JPF-FL8420
>
> See http://www.vfaq.com/mods/Tranny-switchable.html for more
details.
>
>>
> FYI: Other Mitsu AWD M/T trans of note that WILL NOT interchange
> (supposedly):
>
> w5mG1-0-FNBR 3000GT 4WD w/ 4WS, 5spd mfg 4/90-5/92
> w5mG1-1-FNCR 3000GT 4WD w/ 4WS, 5spd mfg 11/91-5/92
> w5mG1-2-FNBR or FCNR 3000GT 4WD w/ 4WS, 5spd mfg 6/92-9/92
> w5mG1-3-FNBR or FCNR 3000GT 4WD w/ 4WS, 5spd mfg 10/92-5/93
> W6MG1-0-FNBR 3000GT 4WD w/ or w/o 4WS, 6spd mfg 6/93-end
>
> w5m33-2-NPZS 89-90 Eclipse AWD 5spd turbo mfg 3/89-6/90 [change
> shift linkage]
> w5m33-2-MUZT 97-99 Eclipse AWD 5spd turbo mfg 7/96-end
>
> w5m31-2-VQZH Galant GSX AWD non-turbo 5spd mfg 6/89-5/90
> w5m31-2-VQBK Galant GSX AWD non-turbo 5spd mfg 6/90-5/92
>
> w5m31-2-VNXL Expo-LRV 1.8 AWD non-turbo 5spd
> w5m33-2-NNXL Expo-LRV 2.4 AWD non-turbo 5spd
> w5m33-2-NNXL Expo 2.4 AWD non-turbo 5spd mfg 6/92-2/94
> w5m33-2-NNXZ Expo 2.4 AWD non-turbo 5spd mfg 5/91-5/92

quote:

US TEL 1G 3/89 - 6/90 (shift link) -> w5m332npzs
US TEL 1G 6/90 - 2/94 -> w5m332npxv
US TEL 2G 3/94 - 6/96 -> w5m332npzt
US TEL 2G 7/96 and up -> w5m332muzt

US spec GVR4 to 4/92 -> w5m332nqbk
US spec GVR4 5/92 and up -> w5m332nqbm

US Galant GSX AWD non-turbo 6/89-5/90 -> w5m312vqzh
US Galant GSX AWD non-turbo 6/90-5/92 -> w5m312vqbk

US Expo 1G AWD -> w5m33_mn__??? (Anyone know?)
US Expo-LRV 1.8 AWD non-turbo 5spd -> w5m312vnxl
US Expo-LRV 2.4 AWD non-turbo 5spd -> w5m332nnxl
US Expo 2.4 AWD non-turbo 6/92-2/94 -> w5m332nnxl
US Expo 2.4 AWD non-turbo 5/91-5/92 -> w5m332nnxz

quote:
w5m332 means they are for turbo AWD 4g63 powered 1G, GVR4 and evo 1-3 (don't know about evo iv and beyond, anyone?).

nq -> is for the GVR4 (US and JDM)
np -> if the the US 1G and some 2G cars (up to 96; in '97 MMC switched from np to mu for the 2G)
c50ph -> is the switchable tranny (2wd/4wd)
c51ph -> if for the 88-89 JDM VR4 (early GVR4s) and select foreign market (a specimen was reported in Australia for example) GVR4s

All of the above are compatible with the GVR4 3 bolt and the 1G 4 bolt rear diffs.

wq -> is for the GVR4 RS and the evo1
evo2 and evo3 -> trannies each have letters that are different from all of the above and from one another.

The wq and evo2 and evo3 trannies DO NOT work with the US GVR4 3 bolt nor the US 1G 4 bolt rear diffs. The above data was gathered from multiple lists over a period of two years. I have found no exceptions to date.


PS -- As an FYI there are some wierd ones, for which I cannot comment about their compatibility with US cars. I'd stay away from these. They are:

nr -> unknown
f5m332sp -> unknown
w5m33?nn -> unknown
w5m33?mn -> unknown


w5m31 is a non turbo galant gsx


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Re: ATTN: tranny code pros #41017
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I searched quite a bit for tranny number recently and I don't remember seeing a number beginning with a K.

I've also checked google, but you probably already done it, and I did't find anything either.


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Re: ATTN: tranny code pros #41018
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New info I just found while searching in google and even in that list, there is no model number beginning with a K...

Oh well! frown

_________________________________________________

Time to cue a list of known box codes, and my interpretation of what
the codes mean.

This data has bene shamelessly nicked from nzmmc and club VR4 forums.

If you can shed more light on the codes, or have some new ones, let
everyone know!

Typical gearbox code: W5M33-2-NQZK

Last 4 characters distinguish the gearboxes..

1st letter - Final drive ratio
N = 3.545 ratio
W = 3.909 ratio

2nd letter - gear ratios??
O = dunno ratio?
P = dunno ratio?
Q = close ratio?
R = wide ratio?

3rd letter - front diff
B = open front diff
F = ?
G = ?
W = viscous front LSD
X = ?
Y = open
Z = ?

4th Letter
Mounting locations?
M = Galant
K = HH/HJ Galant
E = CC Lancer
D = CB Lancer


Front LSD uses a different crownwheel, and a longer drivers side inner
CV joint


W5M33-2-NRXD 1990 Cyborg hatch (4WD) 3.545 Ratio no LSD

W5M33-2-NRWE 92-95 Lancer GSR, Viscous Front LSD, 3.545 ratio.
W5M33-2-NRBE ????? Lancer GSR, 3.545 ratio no LSD
W5M33-2-NQBE 92 Lancer GSR 1.8rs no LSD 3.545
W5M33-2-NOBE Lancer GSR 3.545 no LSD


W5M33-2-WQYE, Lancer Evo 1 RS 3.909 ratio, no front lsd.
W5M33-2-WPGE, Lancer Evo 2 3.909 ratio, no front lsd.
W5M33-2-WPWE, Lancer Evo 2 3.909 ratio, viscous front lsd.
W5M33-2-UPYE, Lancer Evo 3 3.909 ratio, no front lsd.

W5M33-2-NQBK 91-2 Galant VR4 up to 4/92
W5M33-2-NQBM 92 Galant VR4 mfg 5/92
W5M33-2-WPVF Galant VR4 E84A
W5M33-2-WQNK Galant VR4 evo (3.909 ratio)
W5M33-2-WQFK Galant VR4 evo
W5M33-2-NPXV 91-94 Eclipse AWD 5spd mfg 6/90-2/94
W5M33-2-NNZT 95? Eclipse AWD 5spd mfg 3/94 [not sure about this one]
W5M33-2-NPZT 95-96 Eclipse AWD 5spd mfg 3/94-6/96

W5M33-2-WQWE 92-93 Lancer evo 1 RS (viscous front LSD) (3.909)
W5M33-2-WQFE evo 1 RS box
W5M33-2-WQGE evo 1 GSR box


Hope this helps,
Alex.


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Re: ATTN: tranny code pros #41019
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Well, thanks for all that info. Very helpful, as you can see half way down the third post, the code is there (W5M33-2-NPXV 91-94 Eclipse AWD 5spd mfg 6/90-2/94).
That's good that the ratios match and the VC wouldn't burn out, but my car was made pre-June 1990, June being when the trannies switched from 22 to 23 spline.
Is there way of putting a 23 spline post June '90 in my factory 22 spline car?
Thanks fellas


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Re: ATTN: tranny code pros #41020
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There shouldn't be a problem, just use a 23 spline transfer case with the tranny, the ratios are all the same for the t-cases, doesn't matter about the spline count. If you don't have a 23 spline t case to go along with the tranny you can use the 22 spline one, just swap over the 22 spline input shaft over to the newer tranny.

The only other thing I can think of is you may have to use the 91-94 shifter cables with that tranny, or you can just swap over the bracket on the tranny that holds the shifter cable, and look at the shifter arms on the tranny, one of them might be longer or shorter, and you may have to swap that over if they ae differnt.
Not a big deal though, you should get it to work.


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Thanks Reza.


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Re: ATTN: tranny code pros [Re: mike mctavish] #299838
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Bringing this back from the dead, with some updates. Gathered some info from other forums. Some may have been repeated

W5MG1-0-FNBR 3000GT 4WD w/ 4WS, 5spd mfg 4/90-5/92
W5MG1-1-FNCR 3000GT 4WD w/ 4WS, 5spd mfg 11/91-5/92
W5MG1-2-FNBR or FCNR 3000GT 4WD w/ 4WS, 5spd mfg 6/92-9/92
W5MG1-3-FNBR or FCNR 3000GT 4WD w/ 4WS, 5spd mfg 10/92-5/93
W6MG1-0-FNBR 3000GT 4WD w/ or w/o 4WS, 6spd mfg 6/93-end

W5M33-2-NPZS 89-90 Eclipse AWD 5spd turbo mfg 3/89-6/90 [change
> shift linkage]
W5M33-2-MUZT 97-99 Eclipse AWD 5spd turbo mfg 7/96-end

W5M31-2-VQZH Galant GSX AWD non-turbo 5spd mfg 6/89-5/90
W5M31-2-VQBK Galant GSX AWD non-turbo 5spd mfg 6/90-5/92
>
W5M31-2-VNXL Expo-LRV 1.8 AWD non-turbo 5spd
W5M33-2-NNXL Expo-LRV 2.4 AWD non-turbo 5spd
W5M33-2-NNXL Expo 2.4 AWD non-turbo 5spd mfg 6/92-2/94
W5M33-2-NNXZ Expo 2.4 AWD non-turbo 5spd mfg 5/91-5/92

GearBox Code Vehicle Front LSD Ratio
W5M33-2-NGRE Lancer gsr RS (1992, 1800cc) ?
W5M33-2-NNZT Eclipse AWD 5spd mfg 3/94 ?
W5M33-2-NPXV 91-94 Eclipse AWD 5spd mfg 6/90-2/94 ?
W5M33-2-NPZT 95-96 Eclipse AWD 5spd mfg 3/94-6/96 ?
W5M33-2-NQBE Libero/Lancer Gsr, non lsd version of NRWE No 3.545
W5M33-2-NQBK 1991-92 to 4/92 VR4/ZR4 Galant ?
W5M33-2-NQBM 1992 Galant to 5/92 ?
W5M33-2-NRBE 92-95 Lancer GSR, lightweight synco's 2nd & 3rd No 3.545
W5M33-2-NRWE 92-95 Lancer GSR, stronger box, dbl syncro 2nd Yes 3.545
W5M33-2-NRXD 1990 Cyborg No 3.545
W5M33-2-UPFE Evo3 RS with front LSD Yes 3.909
W5M33-2-UPGE Evo3 GSR non LSD No 3.909
W5M33-2-UPWE Evo3 GSR with front LSD Yes 3.909
W5M33-2-UPYE Evo3 RS non LSD No 3.909
W5M33-2-WPFE Evo2 RS with front LSD Yes 3.909
W5M33-2-WPGE Evo2 GSR non LSD No 3.909
W5M33-2-WPVF Galant VR4 E84A ?
W5M33-2-WPWE Evo2 GSR with front LSD Yes 3.909
W5M33-2-WPYE Evo2 RS non LSD No 3.909
W5M33-2-WQFE Evo1 RS with front LSD Yes 3.909
W5M33-2-WQFK Galant VR4 evo ? ?
W5M33-2-WQGE Evo1 GSR non LSD No 3.909
W5M33-2-WQNK VR4 Evo, close ratio box ? No 3.909
W5M33-2-WQWE Evo1 GSR (and RS?) with front LSD Yes 3.909
W5M33-2-WQYE Evo1 RS non LSD No 3.909

Last 4 Letters on the transmission code:

1st letter – Final Drive Ratio

N = 3.545 ratio
W = 3.909 ratio

2nd letter – gear ratios

O = dunno ratio?
P = dunno ratio?
Q = close ratio?
R = wide ratio?

3rd Letter – Front Differential

B = open front diff
F = ?
G = ?
W = viscous front LSD
X = ?
Y = open
Z = ?

4th Letter – Type of car it was used on. (Mounting locations?)
D = CB Lancer
E = CC Lancer
K = HH/HJ Galant
M = Galant
S = 89-90 Eclipse AWD 5spd
T = DSM G2
V = 91-94 Eclipse AWD 5spd mfg 6/90-2/94


Front LSD uses a different crownwheel, and a longer drivers side inner
CV joint

A few examples:

_GearBox Code___Vehicle.................................. ................................... Front LSD.......... Ratio
W5M33-2-MUZT.....Eclipse AWD 5spd turbo mfg 7/96-end
W5M33-2-NGRE.....Lancer gsr RS (1992, 1800cc)
w5m33-2-NNXL.....Expo 2.4 AWD non-turbo 5spd mfg 6/92-2/94
w5m33-2-NNXZ.....Expo 2.4 AWD non-turbo 5spd mfg 5/91-5/92
W5M33-2-NNZT.....95? Eclipse AWD 5spd mfg 3/94 [not sure about this one]
W5M33-2-NOBE.....Lancer GSR 3.545 no LSD
W5M33-2-NPXV.....91-94 Eclipse AWD 5spd mfg 6/90-2/94
W5M33-2-NPZS.....89-90 Eclipse AWD 5spd mfg 1/89-6/90 [change shift linkage]
W5M33-2-NPZT.....95-96 Eclipse AWD 5spd mfg 3/94-6/96
W5M33-2-NQBE.....Libero/Lancer Gsr 1.8rs, non lsd version of NRWE........No................3.545
W5M33-2-NQBK.....1991-92 to 4/92 Galant VR4/Eterna ZR-4
W5M33-2-NQBM.....Eterna ZR-4 1990, Galant VR4 to 5/92
W5M33-2-NQXV.....Sheriot 4wd, 1990, 4G63t
W5M33-2-NQZS.....Eclipse GSR-4 (Japan) вып. 09/89-12/90, код MD995574
W5M33-2-NRBE......92-95 Lancer GSR, lightweight synco's 2nd & 3rd..........No................3.545
W5M33-2-NRWE.....92-95 Lancer GSR, stronger box, dbl syncro 2nd..........Yes...............3.545
W5M33-2-NRXD.....1990 Cyborg hatch (4WD) .............................................No... .............3.545
W5M33-2-UPFE......Evo3 RS with front LSD............................................... ...Yes................3.909
W5M33-2-UPGE......Evo3 GSR non LSD .................................................. ......No................3.909
W5M33-2-UPWE.....Evo3 GSR with front LSD ..............................................Yes. ..............3.909
W5M33-2-UPYE......Evo 2 и Evo 3 RS non LSD ..............................................No.. ..............3.909
W5M33-2-WNZT.....95-96 Eclipse AWD 5spd - ?
W5M33-2-WPBV.....Eclipse AWD АТМОСФЕРНЫЙ "европеец".
W5M33-2-WPFE.....Evo2 RS with front LSD .................................................Y es...............3.909
W5M33-2-WPGE....Evo2 GSR non LSD .................................................. .......No.................3.909
W5M33-2-WPVF.....Cordia GSR - 4WD (Galant VR4 E84A ? твин турбо).......No.................3.909
W5M33-2-WPWE....Evo2 GSR with front LSD ...............................................Yes ...............3.909
W5M33-2-WPYE.....Evo2 RS non LSD .................................................. .........No.................3.909
W5M33-2-WQFE.....Evo1 RS with front LSD............................................... ...Yes...............3.909
W5M33-2-WQFK....Galant VR4 evo ? ?
W5M33-2-WQGE....Evo1 GSR non LSD .................................................. .......No.................3.909
W5M33-2-WQNK....Galant VR4 Evo, close ratio box ? ..................................No.............. ...3.909
W5M33-2-WQWE...92-93 Evo1 GSR (and RS?) (viscous front LSD) (3.909)
W5M33-2-WQYE.....Evo1 RS non LSD .................................................. .........No.................3.909

W5M33 - C5TPH = 1988 Galant VR4, Open Front Diff, 3.545 Ratio
4G63 (DOHC 16v) + KM-206 Transmissions 89-92 Galant, Eagle 2000 GTX, 92 Colt Turbo


W5M33 2NQBK ----under that code KD6377 -1990 Mitsubishi Eterna ZR-4

W5M332MMZL : from Mitsubishi RVR, same as Evo 3




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Re: ATTN: tranny code pros [Re: mike mctavish] #299866
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You need an N?

what are you looking for? An LSD would be nice.

The Front diff ratio needs to match the t-case. If the splines matched, lots more people would drive with the wrong ratio.

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Originally Posted by Cesar Ito
You need an N?

what are you looking for? An LSD would be nice.

The Front diff ratio needs to match the t-case. If the splines matched, lots more people would drive with the wrong ratio.


Actually lots of people do drive around with the wrong ratio final drive.

I've has a lot of people ask me what tranny works etc. etc.

Just thought I'd bump this up for people looking for JDM ones.


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Re: ATTN: tranny code pros [Re: Reza Mirza] #300067
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Don't forget the oddball C15PH tranny will also work as it has the 3.545 ratio.


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Re: ATTN: tranny code pros [Re: Adam Grenon] #325020
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Correction to my previous post:
W5M332MMZL : from Mitsubishi RVR, is NOT the same as Evo 3

Here's some other very useful links I found, some may be repeat info, enjoy:

http://www.evocoupe.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4070&p=49144
http://www.bmsc.com.au/forums/attac...1212d1142913850-evo-1-3-gsr-0db41b80.gif


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Re: ATTN: tranny code pros [Re: Reza Mirza] #325030
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*@#$k, no wonder I couldn't find it I was looking in the Drivetrain forum.

Make this a sticky so that we can all find this when we go get JDM trannies or the unknowns..


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Folks when looking for a JDM tranny for your USDM talon to drop right in, please find one with a correct final drive, i.e. after the W5M332 you should see the letter "N" which will indicate a correct ring gear, in MOST cases. There are a few that don't start with W5M332 like the C50PH that will work. You just have to know how to figure out if its the correct final drive wink

Please do some extensive research on the code before buying one from a JDM distributor. All other tranny's you find there, please leave them alone as they are no use to you tongue pimp

I can't even count how many people over the years have messaged me about a trans in their car, which bolts up fine, shifts fine, and drove fine for a few weeks/days before locking up, and they still think its something else!

Been there already.


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^^ This is why it should be a sticky

C51PH as this is also a 3.545 ratio with taller 1st gear, oh its in there i see now.

Ah yes, "no use to you" is the key word here, but some of the parts are better wink



92' Eclipse GSX 6/4 ECMlink
97' 4Runner lifted, e-locker, Artic plow
85' BigRed

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