FF Catchcans
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April 15, 2014 06:34 pm UTC
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Bryan Lawrence
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I wanted to see how everyones is working out for them. I have to say I am not impressed at all and don't feel they are of good value, I am still getting oil in my intake and I know it is coming from the catch can.
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Re: FF Catchcans
[Re: Bryan Lawrence]
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April 15, 2014 07:44 pm UTC
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My understanding is that the baffle should be enough. I am not comfortable with the steel wool idea, makes me nervous.
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Re: FF Catchcans
[Re: Bryan Lawrence]
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April 15, 2014 08:17 pm UTC
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Yeah the second thing you posted I have heard of people using it and pieces getting loose and going into the intake and stuff.
My issue is that we paid a fair chunk for these things, I shouldn't have to find other ways to make it work like it should be working.
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Re: FF Catchcans
[Re: Bryan Lawrence]
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April 15, 2014 09:58 pm UTC
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Stephan Tanchak
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I bought a pack of steel wool that went from coarse to fine. Put some finer stuff on the bottom, and the coarse stuff closer to the intake side. Worked great for me.
I would prefer to attach it to the intake pipe so you also get some vacuum happening in the valve cover, but for the 1g, I'll probably just have a breather.
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Re: FF Catchcans
[Re: Bryan Lawrence]
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April 16, 2014 01:28 am UTC
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That's what kills me is that I was going to buy a Calan catch can but then all the guys here really wanted FF.
The calan can is cheaper and from what I can tell it's probably better than the FF can.
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Re: FF Catchcans
[Re: Bryan Lawrence]
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April 16, 2014 01:59 am UTC
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For those that don't know, more info on the "Calan" cans here: http://www.jcsautomation.com/vs%20catch%20cans.htmlDidn't pay much attention to the FF cans when I was looking at cans as it didn't seem like anything special as far as how it functioned, it just looked pretty & fitment was "neat". Believe it's just a typical baffle, like all the other el cheapo cans out there. Edit: Running the VS2 here, with dual -10AN inlets, single -12AN out.
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Re: FF Catchcans
[Re: Rob Strelecki]
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April 16, 2014 04:04 am UTC
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I always thought that the vacuum from the intake pipe wasnt strong enough to over power the crank case pressure. I was curious about that myself and planned to hook my boost gauge up to the catch can to see how much vacuum it might pull. Someday! ..and also to see how much boost i.e. how bad the blow-by might be :| I think we also need to consider it one of those "any bit that helps" kinda things. If you relieve some pressure, it's not pushing as much the wrong way. I believe there was a tuners member who put a MAP sensor on his intake and there was a fairly decent amount of vacuum. I don't think it's all about the absolute vacuum amount but rather the way the air passes the port, just the way a siphon feed air gun works, by passing air over the opening of the port, it creates a quite a lot of vacuum and can lift liquids up through many feet of hose.
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Re: FF Catchcans
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April 16, 2014 11:58 am UTC
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I always thought that the vacuum from the intake pipe wasnt strong enough to over power the crank case pressure. I was curious about that myself and planned to hook my boost gauge up to the catch can to see how much vacuum it might pull. Someday! ..and also to see how much boost i.e. how bad the blow-by might be :| I think we also need to consider it one of those "any bit that helps" kinda things. If you relieve some pressure, it's not pushing as much the wrong way. I believe there was a tuners member who put a MAP sensor on his intake and there was a fairly decent amount of vacuum. I don't think it's all about the absolute vacuum amount but rather the way the air passes the port, just the way a siphon feed air gun works, by passing air over the opening of the port, it creates a quite a lot of vacuum and can lift liquids up through many feet of hose. I believe that was Paul Volk when he redid the catch can set up on this car. I believe this is the link: http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/custom-fabrication/372279-my-new-crankcase-evacuation-system.html
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Re: FF Catchcans
[Re: Daren Peacock]
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April 16, 2014 12:04 pm UTC
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If you want one of the best catch cans available, look up "Calan" catch cans (his user name on Tuners). Seems to be far superior then most others on the market & probably inline with what the FF cans cost.
I've ran one of his for a year, quality is top notch, highly recommend Craig's cans. This. Easily on of the best catch cans available on the market. Really knowledgeable guy, and the quality of the finished product is amazing. I regret selling my old one.
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