Re: METH NOZZLE INSTALL
[Re: Dio Long]
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September 07, 2014 04:33 am UTC
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Bryan Lawrence
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After BOV before IAT is what I am seeing most too and what I will be doing.
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Re: METH NOZZLE INSTALL
[Re: Dio Long]
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September 07, 2014 12:08 pm UTC
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Terry S
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Re: METH NOZZLE INSTALL
[Re: Dio Long]
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September 07, 2014 07:24 pm UTC
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Bryan Lawrence
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Well I don't think IAT makes a difference at all. If you read some of what Thomas has wrote about testing with IAT sensor on and off it doesn't make much of a difference. I don't think your DSM will do the adjustment based on that, it's just going to see knock and retard the timing. Unless I am confused as to how load is calculated in the ecu.
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Re: METH NOZZLE INSTALL
[Re: Dio Long]
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September 08, 2014 11:40 pm UTC
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Stephan Tanchak
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Given they are cheap, my meth before the IAT ruined the sensor after a year and a bit.
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Re: METH NOZZLE INSTALL
[Re: Dio Long]
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September 09, 2014 12:48 pm UTC
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Jeremy Gilbert
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So many opinions makes it kinda of a coin toss. You said you want to mount it after the BOV and before the IAT. DevilsOwn (the people who made your system) says to mount it after the BOV and before the IAT. A few guys who run meth have had great success mounting it after the BOV and before the IAT. Why are we flipping coins?
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Re: METH NOZZLE INSTALL
[Re: Dio Long]
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September 09, 2014 01:08 pm UTC
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Stephan Tanchak
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And then get a real failsafe like me.
NO regrets at all spending the money on it. A couple days after,i found something, possibly the nozzle was greatly decreasing my flow.
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Re: METH NOZZLE INSTALL
[Re: Dio Long]
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September 09, 2014 02:27 pm UTC
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Ghislain Goudreau
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Nozzle that popped out was a 0.12. I was the Af Ratio changed a bit and I was getting less than 2deg of knock retard. Dialed the Timing back by 1 deg and added a little fuel. No other ill effect were felt.
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Re: METH NOZZLE INSTALL
[Re: Jason Drew]
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September 10, 2014 04:33 pm UTC
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Reza Mirza
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Running pre IAT is not a fail safe.
The only way to have a fail safe is to run separate fuel maps and wire in a hobbs switch so that as soon as pressure is lost in the line then it drops you down to the low octane table.
Either way, link is very involved. I highly recommend you activate the meth via link. It can be done other ways but not anywhere as easy to tune for as link won't know about the added fuel. Agreed, this is the only real failsafe there is with a meth kit. Low level sensors and blinky lights are probably as good as my check engine knock light. Any real catastrophic damage will already be done by the time your warning lights come on On a side note I spray 2 x M14's driectly onto the IAT, never had any issues here and the 100% meth does not degrade the sensor either. I have been doing this for a few years now. My fail safe is to simply have a meth system that just does not fail Works well for me.
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