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Gallant vr4 tranny? #443076
September 05, 2015 03:33 pm UTC
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So with the parts cars finally home, I've got an AWD tranny with the code "c51ph fp6607".

My searches tell me it's from a Gallant vr4.

Can anyone tell me more about this tranny?

I'm curious to know it's gear ratio.


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Re: Gallant vr4 tranny? [Re: Mike Eng] #443081
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Not sure what trans code that is. But if it's from a Galant, 1st is taller and 2nd to 5th is the same as a 1G. If it's the a JDM trans could have 3.909 diffs if it's post 1989 I believe.



Re: Gallant vr4 tranny? [Re: Mike Eng] #443092
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I did discover the same after having researched it more.

It's difficult finding concrete info on an item over 20 years old using the Internet.

But thanks for the reply Corte.


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Re: Gallant vr4 tranny? [Re: Mike Eng] #443161
September 08, 2015 01:38 pm UTC
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C51PH is just a 1990 style DSM gearset with a taller/weaker gallant VR4 1st gear.


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Re: Gallant vr4 tranny? [Re: Mike Eng] #443164
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In other words Reza, you don't recommend a car pushing more than 500hp to use it?


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I didn't say that, I was just telling you what tranny it is. With over a decade worth of DSM info out there, you can use the information for what it's worth! smile


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Re: Gallant vr4 tranny? [Re: Mike Eng] #443174
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Mentioning "weaker" is pretty implied no? In your experience, do you recommend it?


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Re: Gallant vr4 tranny? [Re: Mike Eng] #443176
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The taller VR4 1st gear is known to be the weakest and can break easily (I have broken them). The rest of the gears are single syncro and the 3-4 is heavy duty just like any other 1990 transmission. I ran many 10 second passes on the exact same transmission and have blown the same transmission up. Same could be done on a stock 2g tranny, 1g tranny, evo3 gearset etc.

In a perfect world sure it could handle 500HP, but I don't really assign HP ratings to a tranny unless I build it myself now. There are other factors involved so I can't really tell you how good or how crap that 25 year old transmission is smile

What I can say is sure the 3-4 gears are heavy duty and can handle pretty much anything you throw at them as long as they are in good shape.


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Re: Gallant vr4 tranny? [Re: Mike Eng] #443177
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That's very helpful info! smile

Thank you Reza!

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I've been running a VR4 gearset in my 2G for the last 3-4 years. Seen several 130+MPH runs but sadly never pushed anything lower than a 1.7s 60 ft. (always slightly preloaded)
I'm sure with a set of slicks I could do some damage though.


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Originally Posted by Jamie Valcamp
I've been running a VR4 gearset in my 2G for the last 3-4 years. Seen several 130+MPH runs but sadly never pushed anything lower than a 1.7s 60 ft. (always slightly preloaded)
I'm sure with a set of slicks I could do some damage though.


Any specific reason why you ran with a VR4 gearset in your 2G?

Pros/Cons?


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Taller 1st gear seems like reason enough to me. Then swap in the evo 5th. Which I still have brand new in box lol


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I cut some very good 60 foots with that 1st gear. It was when I did repeated back to back launches, I stripped all the teeth clean off the gear. This is after about 4 back to back launches.

Just let the trans cool down 20 to 30 minutes before passes and it will more than likely stay together...


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Exactly what I do Reza. I'm never too eager to run back to back. I'd rather get one less pass and still drive it home.

Mike, only reason I went with that gear set is it was already in the transmission when I bought it. Plus it's a switchable 2WD/4WD.


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Originally Posted by Jamie Valcamp
Exactly what I do Reza. I'm never too eager to run back to back. I'd rather get one less pass and still drive it home.

Mike, only reason I went with that gear set is it was already in the transmission when I bought it. Plus it's a switchable 2WD/4WD.


That the same C51PH I've got from the '93 awd parts car? I read something about it but didn't look any further into it...


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Originally Posted by Jamie Valcamp
Exactly what I do Reza. I'm never too eager to run back to back. I'd rather get one less pass and still drive it home.

Mike, only reason I went with that gear set is it was already in the transmission when I bought it. Plus it's a switchable 2WD/4WD.


Switchable? COOL.


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