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Re: $100 DSMLink tablet. [Re: Tyler Minshall] #438696
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You can take calls on the tablet. It has Bluetooth built in. That's not the problem. Its cutting the echo. If you can find an app to do that then it will be cheap. You can buy some small 12v amp boards for less than $20.


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Re: $100 DSMLink tablet. [Re: Tyler Minshall] #438697
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Mine just arrived. Wasn't happy with the packaging, everything was loose in the box, and the shipping box had a dent in it, but the way the tablet itself is packaged, it should be okay.

Nice little unit! Feels pretty solid, and expensive, good build quality. Quite heavy for the size.

I messed up putting on the screen protector. frown

The case is a simple one similar to the ones for iPads and other tablets where you can prop it up on one side.


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Yeah, definitely a nice piece. I messed up my screen protector too. one piece of dust under the cover making a bubble. annoy

But it doesn't need one anyway as it will be spending its life on the dash and maybe movies now and then.


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Oh well there you go, I didn't think you could make the phone recognize the tablet as a speakphone.


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Have you guys tried logging through an OTG cable yet or connecting your cars ECU, etc..?

Is it an actual build of Windows 8 they use or a stripped version of it?

Can you use a USB hub with multiple peripherals at once?

I want to get one of these to tune with TunerPro and ofcourse datalogging, but I dunno if 1G RAM is enough or if the programs/drivers will work with it...


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Re: $100 DSMLink tablet. [Re: Bryan OShaughnessy] #438702
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Originally Posted by Bryan OShaughnessy
Have you guys tried logging through an OTG cable yet or connecting your cars ECU, etc..?

Is it an actual build of Windows 8 they use or a stripped version of it?

Can you use a USB hub with multiple peripherals at once?

I want to get one of these to tune with TunerPro and ofcourse datalogging, but I dunno if 1G RAM is enough or if the programs/drivers will work with it...


Tyler has DSMLink up and running on it - I am not sure if he has tested the recording functionality but I assume it will be fine.

As for the rest of your inquiries, can't help. Tyler is probably the best resource on this right now - he's great with this stuff.


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Re: $100 DSMLink tablet. [Re: Tyler Minshall] #438703
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No.

Yes, full, this was answered multiple times in this thread of 2 pages, and if you go to the product page it says it there too!

Yes, but if the devices draw a lot of power, you'll wanna get one that's powered.

It should work fine, it's not like these datalogging programs use a lot of RAM. If they do just reduce how many things it logs at one time if that's an option.

Windows recognizes it as a tablet, so memory management should be decent enough for it to run.

So far so smooth. Ran some HTML5 demos while Defender was scanning, and no hiccups.

One thing I'm a BIG fan of is that the touch interface is responsive. Not like the Nexus 7 and other low end tablets.

Edit: I was hoping to test the screen in direct sunlight, as my office windows face East, I get tonnes of sunlight in the mornings, but mother nature's on her rag today.

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Re: $100 DSMLink tablet. [Re: Tyler Minshall] #438704
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I was under the impression Windows 8.1 + Bing was a stripped version of Windows 8, hence the confusion... Turns out it's basically a licensing thing for cheaper laptops and tablets so they can compete with Androids...


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Re: $100 DSMLink tablet. [Re: Tyler Minshall] #438705
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Yup!

Sorry, thought what you meant RT when you said stripped down version.

You can install programs.

It's pretty peppy for a basic Windows tablet short on RAM.

I'd imagine it'll work with ECMLink well. Guess we'll have to wait for Tyler to chime in.


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Re: $100 DSMLink tablet. [Re: Tyler Minshall] #438706
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Micheal I assume the you are comparing to a gen 1 nexus 7 as I have heard that the gen 2 is a big improvement.


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No worries, I'm going to grab one for giggles, seems like a nice machine for 120 bucks!

I'll be running my Ostrich 2.0 off it as well as a Keyspan USB to serial for logging, we'll see how it all works...


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Re: $100 DSMLink tablet. [Re: Bryan Lawrence] #438708
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Originally Posted by Bryan Lawrence
Micheal I assume the you are comparing to a gen 1 nexus 7 as I have heard that the gen 2 is a big improvement.


Nexus 7 FHD 2013. No it's not a big improvement, I have one, it's not good.


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Re: $100 DSMLink tablet. [Re: Tyler Minshall] #438709
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Ya I had link running and connected to the car fine. Changed a bunch of settings. Turned the fuel pump on/off. I did a live log (not to disk).

The only problem I had was when I was trying to install either the drivers or the ecmlink program I had to run it as administrator.


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As for using a USB hub I have not tried that yet. I'm going to look into it when I get home. You would likely need to use a powered hub.


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FYI, my Sony Vaio UX had only 1GB of RAM, used one of those tiny (1.8"?) HDD's and was a single core ~1.3Ghz. The Stream 7 is a quad core ~1.8Ghz, 1GB RAM and usses solid state storage which is much faster.

The Vaio had no issues logging, playing music, other programs open all at the same time and had no problems.


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Re: $100 DSMLink tablet. [Re: Bryan Lawrence] #438712
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I appreciate you looking into this stuff on my behalf Bryan. As always, going the extra mile for a friend. smile

But I don't think the technology is where it needs to be for my type of use.

And the more and more I think about it.. Having a docking station for the phone would serve a better purpose for me. It plays my music via Bluetooth, has GPS, now if only there were an ecmlink app...


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No problem!! If you hide a pi in your dash you can use your phone to remote into it and then view link from there.


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Originally Posted by Mike Eng
I appreciate you looking into this stuff on my behalf Bryan. As always, going the extra mile for a friend. smile

But I don't think the technology is where it needs to be for my type of use.

And the more and more I think about it.. Having a docking station for the phone would serve a better purpose for me. It plays my music via Bluetooth, has GPS, now if only there were an ecmlink app...


I thought they were working on an "app"?


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If you don't need much storage for logging you can pop in an SD card and use it as a RAM drive for more RAM.

I'd forgotten this thing has a slot under the cover for an SD card.


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http://www.anandtech.com/show/8760/hp-stream-7-review

Interesting read. I plan to do the colour correction with mine once I get my hands on it.


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USB hub seems to work fine. Now i need to find a way to use a hub and charge that is not $20+


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Originally Posted by Tyler Minshall
USB hub seems to work fine. Now i need to find a way to use a hub and charge that is not $20+


$20 isn't terrible if it allows you to always be charging and collect data. What are you thinking of doing for the charging/data connection issue?


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I found a local store who had a 7" and an 8" version on display. I ran TunerPro on both and found it pretty difficult to navigate with the 7" screen. I also found the Windows 8.1 zoom feature didn't work all that well in desktop mode. I'm gonna pass on it as a tuning device and stick with my laptop.

The 8" version was a nice improvement but at 179.99, not a great deal. If I can find one on sale, I'd be happier with the bigger screen.


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I don't know about the others but I am still going to use my laptop as a tuning device - this is going to be purely for logging and audio, with the added bonus of being able to make changes to Link in an emergency.


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It was a very cool device none the less.. Being able to pack a usable Windows 8 machine into that small of a package is pretty awesome.

It really wasn't any faults of the tablet that swayed my decision, as far as tablets go it's amazingly versatile! I just don't think it was designed to be used for what I'd be using it for, which is mostly desktop applications.

Do you plan on using the 3.5mm plug for audio? If so, be wary. I guess they have quite a bit of noise issues on the output. Not sure if all the units are affected though, just seems like a widespread issue.


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$100 doesn't seem like a bad deal for 8 hours of battery life and a tablet that can run dsmlink.

My tuning is pretty down packed and I don't need to constantly log and change variables, in fact last year I barely took my laptop out with me when I drove the DSM.

For the guys who are already using this, how is it changing variables etc. when you need to without using a keyboard and shortcut keys? If it is not a super tedious task, I'm sold on this. The battery on my 10" tuning laptop is on its last legs, so I might just grab one of these instead.


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Originally Posted by Bryan OShaughnessy
It was a very cool device none the less.. Being able to pack a usable Windows 8 machine into that small of a package is pretty awesome.

It really wasn't any faults of the tablet that swayed my decision, as far as tablets go it's amazingly versatile! I just don't think it was designed to be used for what I'd be using it for, which is mostly desktop applications.

Do you plan on using the 3.5mm plug for audio? If so, be wary. I guess they have quite a bit of noise issues on the output. Not sure if all the units are affected though, just seems like a widespread issue.


I have read about that issue and if it comes down to it I will attempt a fix or just not use it - it's not a big problem. I plan to make a box that I can plug any 3.5mm output into and play through my car's speakers, so I would just use my iPod if the tablet doesn't work.


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Anyone still using theirs? My netbook is no longer charging so I am debating on whether I should pick one of these up or just wire the laptop into the car.


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I still have mine. Get the Dell adapter and a hub. You can wire it into the car to charge and plug to dsmlink and keyboard/mouse.


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I'm not using this one but a 8" tablet I picked up for Best Buy for slightly more, seems to work fairly well so far.


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Anyone using the touch screen keyboard?


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I'm using a bluetooth mouse and the onscreen keyboard, it's not too bad really.


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Ok cool, I think I may grab one.


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I use one of these. I got it at Walmart for $25. I use it with my raspberry pi sometimes as well.

http://m.bestbuy.ca/defaultpage.asp...jax=true&sku=10177898&lang=en-CA


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Yeah good call, I forgot about that one. It goes on sale for 25$ once in a while so I will keep my eye out.


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Re: $100 DSMLink tablet. [Re: Tyler Minshall] #447122
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It's nice from experience except the damn up arrow is where shift should be!


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Re: $100 DSMLink tablet. [Re: Tyler Minshall] #447123
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haha I am a left shifter so no worries there for me


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Re: $100 DSMLink tablet. [Re: Tyler Minshall] #447335
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I picked up an Acer Aspire Switch 10 refurbed unit for $180.

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Standard USB on the keyboard. If you detach the keyboard (magnetic latch), there is still a microUSB on the tablet portion along with MicroSD slot. I have only tested it a couple times and it seemed to be working fine. I'll give a better review once I can put a few sessions onto it.





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