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Fuel Pressure Too High #448156
April 30, 2016 10:27 pm UTC
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AFPR Installed (FuelLab).
Fuel Pump is a DeatschWerks 340lph

Car Off, ECMLink Turn On Pump. I can adjust to 43.5.

Car On, Vacuum Off, I cannot get the pressure below 49 before the top screw comes out.

Fuel Return Issue? The return is in the shape of an S but I don't see kinks. Thoughts?

Thanks!

P.S. Electronic gauge plugged into gauge port on the AFPR. Maybe should get Mech gauge. >.<

1. Overunning stock 8mm return line
2. Restriction (kink, dmg to return line)
3. Other ideas?

Last edited by Charles Lavoie; April 30, 2016 10:32 pm UTC.

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Re: Fuel Pressure Too High [Re: Charles Lavoie] #448157
April 30, 2016 11:06 pm UTC
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Can you rig your return to flow into a Jerry. That way you can eliminate your return side of the fuel system.

Re: Fuel Pressure Too High [Re: Charles Lavoie] #448158
April 30, 2016 11:24 pm UTC
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You're not gonna overrun the stock return with that pump, so rule that out.

My guess would be a restriction/kink/etc. Somewhere in the line.

Also, where are you measuring fuel pressure?

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Re: Fuel Pressure Too High [Re: Charles Lavoie] #448160
May 01, 2016 12:56 am UTC
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Yeah agreed with Stephan, do the Jerry can than you can confirm you don't have an issue. Sal is right your not going to over run the return and if you were it would do it with the car off.


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Re: Fuel Pressure Too High [Re: Charles Lavoie] #448161
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Flow increases at voltage increases. (off 12 volts vs. 13.8 running). But I will accept the not overrunning the return.

I am measuring pressure from the gauge port on the FPR.

I re-grounded right onto the sensor, removed / reinserted the sensor and moved the return hose outwards to reduce the bends in the hose. Lowest I can go now is 44-45

I should have just bought a mechanical gauge. I will try jerry can and to shorten the return next time I take a week off work.





Last edited by Charles Lavoie; May 01, 2016 01:19 am UTC.

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Re: Fuel Pressure Too High [Re: Charles Lavoie] #450479
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I know I'm 4 months late but did you ever get this resolved? Granted my setup is different (parallel walbro 255s) but I was unable to get my pressure under 60psi when I first got the car running. Where the return line gets back to the tank, there is a siphoning unit (I have no idea what this would technically be called) that has a small restriction in it in order to help balance the fuel levels between the two tank halves (again, working from memory on this).

What I did was slightly drill out the restriction after reading a thread on DSMTuners about this same issue.

I will try to find the thread as it had decent pictures.

EDIT: http://www.dsmtuners.com/threads/2g-awd-fuel-siphon-mod.350851/

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Re: Fuel Pressure Too High [Re: Charles Lavoie] #450501
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this⬆

I had to do this to get my pressure down on my Jay Racing 340lb pump.


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Re: Fuel Pressure Too High [Re: Carl Gould] #450539
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Originally Posted by Carl Gould
I know I'm 4 months late but did you ever get this resolved? Granted my setup is different (parallel walbro 255s) but I was unable to get my pressure under 60psi when I first got the car running. Where the return line gets back to the tank, there is a siphoning unit (I have no idea what this would technically be called) that has a small restriction in it in order to help balance the fuel levels between the two tank halves (again, working from memory on this).

What I did was slightly drill out the restriction after reading a thread on DSMTuners about this same issue.

I will try to find the thread as it had decent pictures.

EDIT: http://www.dsmtuners.com/threads/2g-awd-fuel-siphon-mod.350851/


Can anyone confirm if this would be need for WALBRO 450LPH upgrade ? to keep base fuel pressure in check at 43.5 psi


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Re: Fuel Pressure Too High [Re: Charles Lavoie] #450543
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Jamie valcmp did this to his new 450 walbro.


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Re: Fuel Pressure Too High [Re: Charles Lavoie] #450560
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I wonder if Jason D also did it for his Walbro 450


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Re: Fuel Pressure Too High [Re: Charles Lavoie] #450563
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From what I can read. You open the siphon hole bigger so that it syphons more fuel from the other tank side area as the bigger pump removes more fuel from it's own side of the tank.

After upgrading to the Jay Racing 355lb/m pump. The siphon could not "suck" the fuel out of the other tank fast enough so the return line could not put it back in fast enough... Creating high fuel pressure.

If the pump is too small for a siphon.. I don't think it would matter as the smaller pump would only siphon as much as it needed anyway.

So if any of that made sense.. If just go ahead and siphon it out.

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Re: Fuel Pressure Too High [Re: Charles Lavoie] #450574
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thanks for clearing that out. It would've been a pain to find out afterwards


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Re: Fuel Pressure Too High [Re: Alex Akachinskiy] #450601
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Originally Posted by Alex Akachinskiy
I wonder if Jason D also did it for his Walbro 450


I'm running a 400 and didn't drill it out, no issues to date. I've had the needle down below the empty mark and never missed a beat.

That being said, I can't lower my pressure less than 39-40 psi but that's not really an issue for a 2g so I left it as is.


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