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is a 420a a good daily driver?
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May 02, 2016 07:48 pm UTC
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Devon Bloomfield
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just looking to get some info on a 420a car. im looking at buying a esi talon or GS eclipse for a daily so I can pull my gst off the road and start building my dream. I want to know how these things do for a daily driver, I want to keep driving a DSM and not buy some other shitty daily. I drive Cambridge-Toronto for work everyday. hows gas mileage reliability etc?
Devon Bloomfield, avid car enthusiast/gear head
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Re: is a 420a a good daily driver?
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May 02, 2016 08:33 pm UTC
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Bryan Lawrence
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I think there was one kid who was doing this but I don't think we have seen them for a while. I ignored this advice when it was given to me and regretted it afterwards so listen up  what about a honda?
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Re: is a 420a a good daily driver?
[Re: Devon Bloomfield]
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May 02, 2016 08:42 pm UTC
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Devon Bloomfield
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I don't really want a Honda lol anything worth me buying Honda wise in good shape is waaaay to expensive for a DD and a winter car. I can get my hands on a decent ESI for $2500 safetied/etested
Devon Bloomfield, avid car enthusiast/gear head
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Re: is a 420a a good daily driver?
[Re: Devon Bloomfield]
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May 03, 2016 01:27 am UTC
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Ben Stretch
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I'd have the agree. I think I'm on DD Honda #7 now :-). Hard to beat when you look at trouble free cost/ km
1996 "Canary" Talon...give it any gas and it's dead
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Re: is a 420a a good daily driver?
[Re: Devon Bloomfield]
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May 03, 2016 12:30 pm UTC
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thanks for the advice guys and if I could take public transit from Cambridge to Toronto I would  i'll see what I can find !
Devon Bloomfield, avid car enthusiast/gear head
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Re: is a 420a a good daily driver?
[Re: Devon Bloomfield]
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May 03, 2016 01:24 pm UTC
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Bryan Lawrence
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I felt the same as you, so I bought a corolla and then eventually regretted it and sold it for an accord. Love my accord! As Stephen says you can get an older one for the price you want to spend, and that gen will last forever.
At least go test one and then say no.
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Re: is a 420a a good daily driver?
[Re: Devon Bloomfield]
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May 03, 2016 04:24 pm UTC
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Charles Lavoie
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What are you guys paying for your Honda beaters?
98,6Bolt,3"EXH,LINKV3,780cc,SD,SCM61@26PSI, 340LPH,AFPR,TSBOV,REARWB,FMIC,2"RAD(20/80/WW)
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Re: is a 420a a good daily driver?
[Re: Devon Bloomfield]
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May 03, 2016 04:37 pm UTC
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accord is 100 cheaper than my corolla was. I am less 1200 for full coverage on an 05 accord
Oh how much I paid, I wanted luxury so I went for the newer gen, it's chain instead of belt for timing. 2005 2.4 accord for 4800
With the gen that Stephen is talking about I found plenty for under 2k
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Re: is a 420a a good daily driver?
[Re: Devon Bloomfield]
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May 03, 2016 05:41 pm UTC
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I have heard the same but only issue I read about with the K was burning oil and stretching chain if the car is not kept topped up on oil or regularly changed.
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Re: is a 420a a good daily driver?
[Re: Devon Bloomfield]
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May 03, 2016 05:59 pm UTC
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I am not a fan of the chain either but the interior and styling of the car was what won me over the F series
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Re: is a 420a a good daily driver?
[Re: Devon Bloomfield]
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May 03, 2016 06:04 pm UTC
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Charles Lavoie
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So avg $100 / month as a cheap beater.
$1200 car last 1 Year.
$4800 car lasts 5 Years.
Right now.. the 2008 300C owes me nothing. It is at 309,000KM and running strong. She needs a little love in the sway bar bushings ,a little roof rust and half broken drivers door handle (ext)
Most issues worked out under warranty.
Out of warranty work was Radiator $(700) and my Cat issue (fixed with 2$ O2 Gapper )
I have changed the brake pads once and plugs twice.
I still get 27-30 mpg if I keep it under 100
Regular Oil Changes. That's it.
98,6Bolt,3"EXH,LINKV3,780cc,SD,SCM61@26PSI, 340LPH,AFPR,TSBOV,REARWB,FMIC,2"RAD(20/80/WW)
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Re: is a 420a a good daily driver?
[Re: Devon Bloomfield]
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May 03, 2016 06:08 pm UTC
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Charles that some wicked mpg on that thing! It's a v6?
300C kept coming up when I was researching commuter cars because of how good the ride was and how comfortable it is.
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Re: is a 420a a good daily driver?
[Re: Devon Bloomfield]
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May 03, 2016 06:13 pm UTC
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Devon Bloomfield
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i know the 3.5 is amazing for reliability and gas mileage. i had a Magnum awd for my last car and it did me well until i sold it with 350xxx Kms on it
Devon Bloomfield, avid car enthusiast/gear head
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Re: is a 420a a good daily driver?
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May 03, 2016 06:51 pm UTC
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Chris Browning
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I'll throw in another suggestion for a great beater, the Hyundai Accent. I'm currently on my second one. First I got for $1600 and drove for three winters, this one I got for a steal, $1250 with 100,000kms and a fresh timing belt, I've put 30,000kms on it so far and all its needed was a wiper motor and regular oil changes.
The cert and etested vehicles are out there for under $1500, just be diligent with checking Kijiji as they go fast when they come up.
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Re: is a 420a a good daily driver?
[Re: Bryan Lawrence]
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May 03, 2016 06:54 pm UTC
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Jeremy Gilbert
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$1200 car last 1 Year.
$4800 car lasts 5 Years. My $1200 car has lasted me two years already with no signs of slowing down. 350,000km on the clock and still getting over 700km per tank. Costs me an extra $4/mo to have the Accord insured on top of my Talon. Only two repairs: blower motor resistor and a wheel bearing. Together they cost less than an oil change on the Talon. Charles that some wicked mpg on that thing! It's a v6? 300C has the 5.7L hemi.. I believe in 2008 they had the "cut half the cylinders" mode, but I'm not sure.
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Re: is a 420a a good daily driver?
[Re: Devon Bloomfield]
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May 03, 2016 07:08 pm UTC
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Bryan Lawrence
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Jeremy how did you work out the 4$/month to have the accord on top of the talon? Do you switch back and forth between the two or are both of them always insured?
Ok I thought so and had heard of that feature.
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Re: is a 420a a good daily driver?
[Re: Devon Bloomfield]
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May 03, 2016 07:20 pm UTC
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I will have to talk to Grant about that than. I am the only one on the policy but he is aware that I have the wife with me but she has her own car.
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Re: is a 420a a good daily driver?
[Re: Charles Lavoie]
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May 03, 2016 07:32 pm UTC
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Salomon Ponte
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So avg $100 / month as a cheap beater.
$1200 car last 1 Year.
$4800 car lasts 5 Years.
Right now.. the 2008 300C owes me nothing. It is at 309,000KM and running strong. She needs a little love in the sway bar bushings ,a little roof rust and half broken drivers door handle (ext)
Most issues worked out under warranty.
Out of warranty work was Radiator $(700) and my Cat issue (fixed with 2$ O2 Gapper )
I have changed the brake pads once and plugs twice.
I still get 27-30 mpg if I keep it under 100
Regular Oil Changes. That's it. Serious question...who keeps it under 100 on the highway? Not even the semis do 100 or less so saying you get 27-30mpg keeping it under 100 is about as useful to most people as saying you get 1000mpg when you drive your car off a cliff...  That being said, I would agree with the overall sentiment above and that is, find a good, cheap, reliable beater and drive it into the ground. As expected, Civics, Accords, Corollas, and Camrys are excellent choices most of the time.
'92 Talon TSi AWD - 5 Speed/E16G/12.385s @ 115.13mph
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Re: is a 420a a good daily driver?
[Re: Devon Bloomfield]
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May 03, 2016 07:37 pm UTC
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Thanks Mike, curious about this too.
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Re: is a 420a a good daily driver?
[Re: Salomon Ponte]
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May 03, 2016 08:12 pm UTC
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Jeremy Gilbert
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Jeremy who is your insurance provider? I have a broker but I believe they have me with Unica. I'm not Jeremy (thank goodness for that  ) Very few people are. Oddly I'm in the opposite boat: I have collision on both but no comprehensive.
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Re: is a 420a a good daily driver?
[Re: Jeremy Gilbert]
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May 03, 2016 08:26 pm UTC
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Jeremy who is your insurance provider? I have a broker but I believe they have me with Unica. I'm not Jeremy (thank goodness for that ) Very few people are. Oddly I'm in the opposite boat: I have collision on both but no comprehensive. I should probably add collision, at least to the Laser since I drive it so much and finding an equally mint replacement would cost significantly more than I paid for it...
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