ok Etest guys... what do you think??
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June 10, 2016 08:47 pm UTC
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He says it almost passed! 2000rpm test just surged, he couldnt get it to stay at 2000rpms. I know Im having fiav issues. May block it before next test. also can a cat be installed backwards? When I pulled it off the 1g, it was pointing in the other direction. but it dosent fit very well on my car so I reversed it. Would that be my issue? They stared at my motor for a few minutes.. but didnt say anything about the lack of egr valve, or canister, or anything else thats missing!! Lal
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Re: ok Etest guys... what do you think??
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June 11, 2016 02:58 am UTC
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I did upgrade turbo, bigger fuel pump, new filter, and hadthe injectors cleaned.
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Re: ok Etest guys... what do you think??
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June 15, 2016 01:36 pm UTC
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I failed with the 91' added some timing, passed with flying colours. What fuel you running dump some regular in there.
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Re: ok Etest guys... what do you think??
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June 15, 2016 03:26 pm UTC
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Randy Johnson
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CO is pretty high, how old is your O2 sensor? I just passed 91 with ECMlink, 1050 injectors etc. Co was .04 at idle, HC read 43, this is from memory I don't have the paper with me.
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Re: ok Etest guys... what do you think??
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June 15, 2016 08:39 pm UTC
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1g was stock everything.
first test was 3 years of messing around... and no where near stock. second tedt was ecmlink all stock values. aside of injectors amd SD etc. You are correct all cats are 3 way now but I think it was the early 80s when OEMs were forced to change.
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Re: ok Etest guys... what do you think??
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June 15, 2016 09:19 pm UTC
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More info.I have the test result form now. I failed the first test, my O2 was lazy from leaking valve stem seals I suppose so I changed it even though CO was under the 1% limit but HC was well over 200 at both speeds. I installed a used stock type cat, cut and welded 3" pipe onto each end, it was a 2.5". My cat is a Vibrant 200 cell and it had dealt with the same oil from the leaky seals so I wasn't to confident in it doing the job. I had already done a plug and oil change before the first test. I made some adjustments to my global and deadtime settings and got my LTFT Lo to nearly "0", STFT was around-2.5. EstAF was 14.6 but the wideband showed 15.2 probably because of a small vac leak I have yet to eliminate in the TB, which was actually causing a lean misfire at 2500. But it was minimal so I tried and passed the test 2nd time with ease. 2500 Idle[which I had set to 1150] CO .08 .03 HC 47 58 I am guessing the very low CO is because of the vacuum leak because I don't remember it ever being that low in previous tests.
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Re: ok Etest guys... what do you think??
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June 17, 2016 01:27 am UTC
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Jay, I don't know if it is normal for a wideband/sim to cycle that slowly but any stock O2 normally cycles at least once per second in closed loop. Can you try a different sensor?
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Re: ok Etest guys... what do you think??
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June 17, 2016 02:34 am UTC
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there is a setting to change in link to get it to cycle like it should i had this issue before.
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Re: ok Etest guys... what do you think??
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June 17, 2016 09:50 pm UTC
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On problem cars I have blended enough meth to equal e25 and backed off timing to add heat into the exhaust so that the cat runs hotter but my most consistent results have been to install a new O2 if CO is high and a new cat if HC is high. Even a stock narrowband that is lazy from being old or exposed to oil from tired engines can mess up an Etest Have you passed before using SD? Also you can idle up to 1250 i think and the highest allowed speed should keep the cat warmer.
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Re: ok Etest guys... what do you think??
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June 17, 2016 10:06 pm UTC
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Ya.. this car has passed 3 test now with thesame ecu set up. with flying colours. But its a rebiult motor , added 272 cams, tubular header and holset turbo, and Ive swapped the Mtx out for a plx wideband. but the sensor is 3 years old. I had just noticed my iat is about 108° f.
hmmmmm
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Re: ok Etest guys... what do you think??
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June 17, 2016 10:34 pm UTC
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Do you have adjustable cam gears? If so spread the cams to reduce overlap. It will smooth your idle and increase vacuum which should lower both CO and HC at both test speeds.
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Re: ok Etest guys... what do you think??
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June 18, 2016 12:22 am UTC
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Maybe the cams, the engine is fresh so that should be better for emissions, the ecu setup and tune has passed before. I know guys pass E with big cams but they definitely have an effect on low speed performance and may take some playing. Do you know anyone with an old exhaust gas analyzer from the older dyno etest equipment. That is how I got mine to pass, we played on an analyzer until I got it right, then drove to the test center and passed.
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