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Gas gauge always full #357923
July 22, 2011 10:19 pm UTC
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I'm just curious if anyone has a wiring diagram for the gauge circuit. It slowly makes it's way to full even with the car off and fuel pump disconnected. I'm guessing its a short to ground somewhere and I'd like to try and find it.

I'd look it up in my haynes manual if I could find the stupid thing.

Thanks in advance.

Re: Gas gauge always full [Re: Ian Burnside] #357933
July 23, 2011 01:54 am UTC
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Did you recently change the pump? If you did, pull it out and make sure that it's alligned properly. This was the problem on my old 2g, misallignment meant that the float was always up.

Re: Gas gauge always full [Re: EK] #357934
July 23, 2011 02:09 am UTC
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Yup; Float stuck up.

Drive around of empty the Fank then jump into the "trunk" area to see if you can work it "empty".

Either that or get her back open and investigate.

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Re: Gas gauge always full [Re: EK] #357944
July 23, 2011 04:07 am UTC
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Originally Posted by Eric Kellar
Did you recently change the pump? If you did, pull it out and make sure that it's alligned properly. This was the problem on my old 2g, misallignment meant that the float was always up.

+1 had same proble after pump install. Had to turn pump assembly to correct that.


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Re: Gas gauge always full [Re: Alex Akachinskiy] #357946
July 23, 2011 04:32 am UTC
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Took the pump out and played with the float already. Could the pump be installed incorrectly giving me false readings? It always gives the same reading no matter what. Car on, off, pump hooked up, not hooked up.

Re: Gas gauge always full [Re: Ian Burnside] #357954
July 23, 2011 12:54 pm UTC
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pump shouldnt do anything.. should its not getting caught on something? i think the sending unit only fits in one way.. but i havent takin one out in a couple months.. today i will be lol


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Re: Gas gauge always full [Re: Kyle Guba] #357955
July 23, 2011 01:23 pm UTC
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I left it hooked up and took the whole sending unit assembly out and moved the float up and down and nothing. Unhooked the pump wiring, and still reads full.

This is why im thinking its inside the car somewhere. We didnt touch any of the wiring inside the car, but its always possible that we pinched a wire somewhere along the way.

Re: Gas gauge always full [Re: Ian Burnside] #357956
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That wont be fun to find


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Re: Gas gauge always full [Re: Kyle Guba] #357970
July 23, 2011 10:07 pm UTC
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Maybe the cluster gauge has something to do with it? were you in behind there at all recently? I remember I had shorted the VSS on my civic and after replacing it, It started working for about 10 seconds, then the cluster wouldn't read my speed at all. Changed the VSS 3 more times, ended up tracing the problem back to the cluster itself.


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Re: Gas gauge always full [Re: Mike Eng] #357974
July 24, 2011 12:21 am UTC
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I got a couple spares if you wanna try it out.


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Re: Gas gauge always full [Re: Kyle Guba] #358298
July 30, 2011 05:18 am UTC
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Take the pump harness off.
Put you Meter on the terminals and move the float.
If it changes resistance then it is working.
If it doesn't then it's broken.


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Re: Gas gauge always full [Re: Ian Burnside] #450129
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Bringing this one back from the dead. Tried a different cluster, exact same problem. I've pulled the harness, can't find anything. Pulling the pump again and will do more tests. I just want a working gas gauge!

Re: Gas gauge always full [Re: Tyler Minshall] #450143
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Originally Posted by Tyler Minshall
Take the pump harness off.
Put you Meter on the terminals and move the float.
If it changes resistance then it is working.
If it doesn't then it's broken.


Did this today, readings are perfect. It's not the sending unit causing the problems. Going to attempt another cluster, hopefully the previous 2 just had the same issue.

Re: Gas gauge always full [Re: Ian Burnside] #450161
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If your are pulling the cluster it would be a good idea to check the wiring from there to the sender just to rule out faulty wiring.

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Originally Posted by Stephen Richardson
If your are pulling the cluster it would be a good idea to check the wiring from there to the sender just to rule out faulty wiring.


That's the only thing left to check. Hopefully its the same wire front to back. Worked on a GM once and the wire changed colors 3 times front to back. And was on the wrong side of the car.

Re: Gas gauge always full [Re: Ian Burnside] #450271
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Does anyone have a link or something to which wire goes to where behind the dash? there is about 12 connectors on each side of the cluster, no idea which is which.

Re: Gas gauge always full [Re: Ian Burnside] #450272
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Hopefully its better than the Haynes manual.

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I have the rest of the manuals so if that doesnt have what you need just let me know


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