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DSM Disease #452358
February 07, 2017 07:42 pm UTC
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So, I've been thinking ( I know, dangerous thought lol)

Are we predisposed to like these specific cars? Is it a disease only some of us get? Heck I love other cars don't get me wrong, but my heart always brings me back to DSMs to the point I want to own a 3rd tongue

Even rich I'd still own a few, possibly convert one to hydrogen/electricity in the future, just because of the timeless exterior design.

Do we have a fungus in our brain that makes us come back to these time and time again? Or is it simply for cost/looks/power there's nothing that compares?


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Re: DSM Disease [Re: Guillaume Berton] #452359
February 07, 2017 08:14 pm UTC
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I think that's a legit concern.

I had a chance to choose whatever I wanted after I gave up on blue but I stayed in the family. I think for me though it was this board that kept me in the dsm family and maybe the familiarity of the car. And agreed on the last one, it's hard to find something that you can do so much with without spending double.

New things are always scary!


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Re: DSM Disease [Re: Guillaume Berton] #452360
February 07, 2017 09:49 pm UTC
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For me, it was all about accessibility, ease of mods/working on/maintenance, and the community. Our Canadian DSM community is one of the better/best car groups out there for the most part. We may not be the most active but almost everyone is a stand-up character.

I wouldn't get rid of my DSMs and sure, if I had the space and the money why not grab more, but there are many other cars I'd rather buy next even though I always will have a soft spot for a nice, clean DSM.


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Re: DSM Disease [Re: Guillaume Berton] #452361
February 07, 2017 10:08 pm UTC
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It is not a disease its a passion and good taste. There has never been a car in its class that could compete. Now I am not saying there are nicer cars or faster cars but none where in the same class. It is raw gritty 4 banger power. Embrace it and love it.

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Re: DSM Disease [Re: Guillaume Berton] #452362
February 08, 2017 12:12 am UTC
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I just wanted something as fun as a ferrari.. But not spend any money on it.

And it came with a great group if guys!

I dont want another..

Unless its a beater awd lifted for the winter...

Or one with the motor and trans mounted in the rear...

Ok ... So Im not done.

Someone give me some money!


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Re: DSM Disease [Re: Guillaume Berton] #452364
February 08, 2017 02:33 am UTC
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+1 on all those comments but for me it was walking down that street circa 1992, I was probably like 15 years old and there was a red 1G sitting on the street with the words "TSI AWD Turbo" written on the side. I thought WHAAT!!? That has to be the coolest car ever!!! Had to have one.

Jump forward to 1996 and I bought a beat up, rebuilt 1991 AWD Talon. Drove it like it was stolen for 3 years, never let me down in a race or otherwise and never forgot that feeling.

PS. Also test drive a 1992 AWD Laser Around the same time. MINT! Sniff, sniff, should have bought it. If only I knew...


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Re: DSM Disease [Re: Guillaume Berton] #452365
February 08, 2017 01:27 pm UTC
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I'm reading this thread after having just bought another one....fack.



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Re: DSM Disease [Re: Guillaume Berton] #452366
February 08, 2017 02:26 pm UTC
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It's a good thing.


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Re: DSM Disease [Re: Jason Drew] #452367
February 08, 2017 03:07 pm UTC
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Originally Posted by Jason Drew
I'm reading this thread after having just bought another one....fack.



Details???


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Re: DSM Disease [Re: Guillaume Berton] #452369
February 08, 2017 05:12 pm UTC
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Once you go DSM you never go back!


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Re: DSM Disease [Re: Isaque Nunes] #452370
February 08, 2017 05:27 pm UTC
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Originally Posted by Isaque Nunes
Once you go DSM you never go back!
When you coming back? Or just going to stick to living vicariously through Danny?


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Re: DSM Disease [Re: Salomon Ponte] #452371
February 08, 2017 06:21 pm UTC
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Originally Posted by Salomon Ponte
Our Canadian DSM community is one of the better/best car groups out there for the most part. We may not be the most active but almost everyone is a stand-up character.


Agreed, everyone here is awesome, and the Shootout is like a family reunion without the drama.

for example:
I had a break in the summer, and a member that I helped out probably 8 years ago who no longer even has a dsm and haven't talked to much, came out of nowhere and hooked me up with the parts I needed in less than 48hrs of breaking. You don't find that too many other places.


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Re: DSM Disease [Re: Guillaume Berton] #452372
February 08, 2017 06:25 pm UTC
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for me it was a lucky find with my 2g, went and checked out a couple R33 skylines and this one midnight purple GTR was almost in my possession and then my silver one popped up. i think its the looks of the car that keeps bringing me back to it, i'll always have a dsm in my driveway!!

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Re: DSM Disease [Re: Salomon Ponte] #452375
February 08, 2017 07:10 pm UTC
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Originally Posted by Salomon Ponte
Originally Posted by Jason Drew
I'm reading this thread after having just bought another one....fack.



Details???


Rotted out awd auto 2g.


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Re: DSM Disease [Re: Jason Drew] #452376
February 08, 2017 07:11 pm UTC
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Originally Posted by Jason Drew
Rotted out awd auto 2g.
How much do you need for the swap?


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Re: DSM Disease [Re: Bryan Lawrence] #452377
February 08, 2017 07:13 pm UTC
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Originally Posted by Bryan Lawrence
Originally Posted by Jason Drew
Rotted out awd auto 2g.
How much do you need for the swap?


This thing is being parted and put in my spare parts wink


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Re: DSM Disease [Re: Guillaume Berton] #452380
February 09, 2017 01:12 am UTC
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Glad I'm not the only one thinking this way. So I'm sane....ish lol

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Re: DSM Disease [Re: Guillaume Berton] #452381
February 09, 2017 01:26 am UTC
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Funny, I haven't heard of the DSM bug being referred to as a disease before. I heard of BMW disease in Germany in the '80s, but that was what they called it if you were pouring out blue oil smoke. I had a 5 cylinder Audi for 6 months where I always had to say "fill the oil and check the gas", and they told me it had BMW disease.


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Re: DSM Disease [Re: Bryan Lawrence] #452382
February 09, 2017 05:01 pm UTC
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Originally Posted by Bryan Lawrence
Originally Posted by Isaque Nunes
Once you go DSM you never go back!
When you coming back? Or just going to stick to living vicariously through Danny?

Ha not anymore!
Living Vicariously though myself! lol... Don't you worry. One day there will be a DSM in my garage... Shoot, I need to get a garage first! Haha...


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Re: DSM Disease [Re: Guillaume Berton] #452384
February 09, 2017 05:52 pm UTC
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Yeah I tried getting away from DSMs... Twice. And both times I had another one end up in my possession within a year or less. So I just accepted that I'll never be able to separate myself from them, and am happy to own one.

It's always the 1g's for me that do it. I've driven all sorts of cars and been in many. Even daily driving my evo, all summer, which does absolutely everything better than my stock DSM, doesn't feel the same. I sit in my 1g, and automatically feel "at home". And it's the only car I've ever had that feeling in. I'll be into DSMs for a while that's for sure. 9 years down, many more to go.

For me, a maroon 1gb tsi awd in 1999-2000 shortly after I came to Canada started it. I saw it at this community centre we always went to, it was always parked outside. I always broke my neck staring at it. I knew when I could drive, I wanted that car. The older I got and the more I learned about them, the more I needed one smile


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Re: DSM Disease [Re: Isaque Nunes] #452385
February 09, 2017 06:03 pm UTC
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Originally Posted by Bryan Lawrence
I think for me though it was this board that kept me in the dsm family and maybe the familiarity of the car.


Originally Posted by Salomon Ponte
Our Canadian DSM community is one of the better/best car groups out there for the most part. We may not be the most active but almost everyone is a stand-up character.


^ Defiantly agree with the above, somehow i could not adopt to any other community out there including in Cali. Just a few selective friends here and there using totally different platforms.

Originally Posted by Ben Stretch
...the words "TSI AWD Turbo" written on the side.

[Linked Image]

Yes yes i remember that from my high school. I actually even considered putting that sticker on my 1Gb ESi because everyone asked me I had that model haha

Originally Posted by Devon Bloomfield
i think its the looks of the car that keeps bringing me back to it


^ That and of course the amount of power you can squeeze out of stock engine and stock drive train. As Jeremy G once pointed out, DSMs put power to the ground really well.
30psi on stock 7bolt with AWD is a very special combo that drives my Cali friends crazy with their high dollar semi-exotic cars.

Speaking of disease,
recently I scored this brand new PS pump which supposedly the last one in US inventory tongue
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I love chasing rare DSM parts which also adds to my DSM disease. So far i scored the following:
- evo 3 5th gear (got stollen frown )
- evo 3 IM with brackets for ignitor and coil pack
- evo 3 valve cover (Mitsubishi + emblem)
- 2Ga rear diff LSD with axles (manual)
- Gallant front knuckles
- APC upper aluminum control arms
- 2Gb 1999 white cluster turbo (manual)
- 1ga HD gears
- black leather interior


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Re: DSM Disease [Re: Alex Akachinskiy] #452387
February 09, 2017 06:06 pm UTC
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Originally Posted by Alex Akachinskiy

I love chasing rare DSM parts which also adds to my DSM disease. So far i scored the following:
- evo 3 5th gear (got stollen frown )
- evo 3 IM with brackets for ignitor and coil pack
- evo 3 valve cover (Mitsubishi + emblem)
- 2Ga rear diff LSD with axles (manual)
- Gallant front knuckles
- APC upper aluminum control arms
- 2Gb 1999 white cluster turbo (manual)
- 1ga HD gears
- black leather interior


LOL, I think I supplied you with 3 or 4 off that list!



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Re: DSM Disease [Re: Mike Degli Angeli] #452389
February 09, 2017 07:41 pm UTC
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Originally Posted by Mike Degli Angeli
Originally Posted by Alex Akachinskiy

I love chasing rare DSM parts which also adds to my DSM disease. So far i scored the following:
- evo 3 5th gear (got stollen frown )
- evo 3 IM with brackets for ignitor and coil pack
- evo 3 valve cover (Mitsubishi + emblem)
- 2Ga rear diff LSD with axles (manual)
- Gallant front knuckles
- APC upper aluminum control arms
- 2Gb 1999 white cluster turbo (manual)
- 1ga HD gears
- black leather interior


LOL, I think I supplied you with 3 or 4 off that list!


^ yep those are true words


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Re: DSM Disease [Re: Guillaume Berton] #452414
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I m married to mine till death do us part. Amber only gets the best like a spoiled high maintenance bitch! Could use one more at some point I keep thinking !


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Re: DSM Disease [Re: Guillaume Berton] #452430
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My DSM is my longest relationship love


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Before I knew what a DSM was, I recall seeing a 2g Talon and thinking that hump was the stupidest thing ever on a car. Then kind of fell into DSMs after owning a couple of beater Colts. The Colt message boards kept referring to those awesome "DSM's", whatever they were. When I finally decided to buy a sportier car it came down to a Probe or a Laser. Thank god I made the correct choice!

Now, even though my daily is a Mustang, I don't have any passion for it and am always thinking about the Talon, and what needs to be done to get it back on the road.


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