Re: Just about finished
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March 28, 2006 04:33 am UTC
March 28, 2006 04:33 am UTC
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Allan Brown
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Couple questions for you since installing my engine shortly. Did you put it in thru top or from bottom.Can I leave my trannyin there and just take engine in and out. Never did any of this on a dsm before.Most said it was easier to take out engine and trans at same time.I do need to install my new clutch but dont really need to take out trans.
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Re: Just about finished
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April 04, 2006 05:12 pm UTC
April 04, 2006 05:12 pm UTC
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Nigel Smith
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Explode? hahaha just playing...
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Re: Just about finished
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April 06, 2006 12:10 pm UTC
April 06, 2006 12:10 pm UTC
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Troy Jollimore
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I'm a little bit removed from this. So it's a 1995, but with a rebuilt engine I'd take it you're not running the T25?
If you don't, then 8-12psi still isn't 'stock boost'. More people get this wrong than I can count... "I just put in a pie plate turbo on my all-stock car, but that's okay because I'm only going to run 11psi. That's stock boost, so it'll handle it." *Sigh*
The 2G 'felt' stronger initially because the smaller ports and turbo moved peak torque down a bit on the powerband. But what are the details of your engine/turbo?
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Re: Just about finished
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April 06, 2006 08:42 pm UTC
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Shaun MacLary
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Originally posted by Troy Jollimore: I'm a little bit removed from this. So it's a 1995, but with a rebuilt engine I'd take it you're not running the T25?
If you don't, then 8-12psi still isn't 'stock boost'. More people get this wrong than I can count... "I just put in a pie plate turbo on my all-stock car, but that's okay because I'm only going to run 11psi. That's stock boost, so it'll handle it." *Sigh*
The 2G 'felt' stronger initially because the smaller ports and turbo moved peak torque down a bit on the powerband. But what are the details of your engine/turbo? I could answer, but I'll let mike since it's his car lol. But no, he's not running the T-25 lol.
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Re: Just about finished
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April 06, 2006 10:47 pm UTC
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mike leclerc
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it's a 6 bolt, 2g pistons/1g rods, no BS's. 51 trim borg warner, 550cc. MAFT. 3" pipe. ported head and 2g manifolds
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Re: Just about finished
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April 07, 2006 03:59 pm UTC
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Troy Jollimore
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'Kay. Now what mods had you done with the 1G and the 18G?
It's like computers. You can have two machines with the same specs, and one will blow the other away. All it takes is for something to be a little out of balance with your engine or turbo, and performance drops a lot. And it could be something normal tuning won't catch.
I did those same mods to my '90, 2G pistons with 1G rods, ported/polished head, BS' removed... but I had to be satisfied with porting my 14b with everything else stock since I had no money and did ALL the work myself except for porting the head.
Even with the stock 14b and fuel, the car felt a LOT more powerful than it had previously. Enough so that you could probably challenge a few lightly modded 2Gs through the mid-range and even take a 2G with a T2828 on the top-end...
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Re: Just about finished
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April 11, 2006 12:01 pm UTC
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Troy Jollimore
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Inclined? I'd check. (: And an FPR is pretty cheap insurance. Even something like a cheapie B&M.
You know, I've never actually logged a car? It's always been seat of the pants for me. (Sold mine just as loggers were more affordable and wide-spread.) You can't fully trust the stock O2 sensor, but those numbers sound pretty close to optimum. Boost until you're down to .88 to .9 and you should be as good as you can go.
I'd be concerned if you raise the boost and not see some sort of change, though.
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Re: Just about finished
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April 11, 2006 03:53 pm UTC
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Michael Zeppieri
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Timing of 16+ is what you should be looking for on a 2G. The timing will almost always dip lower than that when the boost comes on at lower engine speeds, around 3k-4k rpm. Then, the timing should rise SMOOTHLY to a solid 16+ degrees. Any dips in the curve, or flat spots, tend to indicate knock.
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Re: Just about finished
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April 12, 2006 12:47 pm UTC
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Noah Wiles
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Originally posted by mike leclerc: Does anyone have a link to the LED mod? Search turned up nothing for me. I'm told you cant log knock on a 2G. Yes you can, you just need to put out a bit of cash for DSMLink. That LED mod is a waste of time.
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Re: Just about finished
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April 12, 2006 03:42 pm UTC
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Noah Wiles
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Originally posted by mike leclerc: Base is at 5BTDC Grounded?
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Re: Just about finished
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April 12, 2006 07:23 pm UTC
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Troy Jollimore
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It's worthless for tuning, but useful to see if knock is why your timing is being pulled. But it's a 1G thing, dunno about it working on a 2G.
If I remember right, Base timing (grounded) should be 8-10 BTDC, isn't it?
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