For those of you who missed the War of the Wheels Talon episode on June 5th, the show will re-air on Prime (channel 54 in Toronto) on Saturday June 17th at 7:00 am. Also will re-air on MenTV (Bell Express VU) on Saturday July 1 at 12noon,8pm,4am.
Some of Club DSM Canada guys are in it, including me

Check it Out!!!

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Nathan Welch:
Will someone please tape that sh!t, and get a digital imprint of it!!! [/QUOTE

I second that.

Me too.....someone should be selling copies

I got my copy. Did anyone else?

I got mine yesterday!

I must say that the show came out pretty good.

Just a reminder guys,
the series airs on Saturdays and Sundays @ 7:00AM on Prime (channel 54 in Toronto).
This morning the Mustang guys were on. Tomorrow morning the S-10 episode will be on.

The Talon epsoide will air next Saturday.
SET YOR VCR'S!!!!!

Cool
I'll recccord it, and sell it to members and become rich!

How many talon was it?

Mehrdad

I got mine yesterday as well. Here are some of the pics again: War of the Wheels Pics

I don't know if I get that channel, but I would LOVE a copy of the tape

If someone has a digital copy, or has the means to convert it, I would gladly host the file for a while.

Well......what did you guys think?

I could post a reminder yesterday cause i wasn't wasn't at home

Isn't this on again tonight????

According to my Rogers Cable box, the last showing of the 1991 Talon TSi episode is on right now. At noon, and 8pm its two 1988 Mustang GT 5.0s

I hope someone is taping this

Dang, I don't pay for that channel

Maybe I can swing a deal with Rob Greer....a copy of the tape for a certain aluminum bung that needed making???

Robs red car was a good looking ride . That green and blue beast with the ghetto cooling line was uhm hmm can you say car crusher . The race segment was an anti-climax for sure. Some tuning time and a few test runs would have made it more interesting.

Who got to keep the cars?

I heard that the show didn't allow any tuning runs, which is pretty retarded no matter how you look at it.

Well we did do a couple 1st gear pulls in the parking lot but that was pretty much it.
The show was worried that something might happen to the car/engine and the cars wouldn't be able to run down the track.

Also the cars were auctioned off to the highest bidder on EBay. Not sure what they went for.

I must say that Rob Greer knows his sh.t. I'm glad he was on our side.

I don't know when the show airs again, I guess you'll have to keep tuning in.

So who was on each side? What did the cars run? Who won?

can i get a copy or a link from somebody? dont think it airs here in US.

Team Ghetto won with a 14.3 or 14.8 ? vs a 15.2 in the 1/4. Robs team had a mid 13 on their practise run though and team Ghetto needed a part from them to be able to make their "winning" run.

Hey Jerry,
I was on team "Ghetto." Real original name btw.

Either way you look at it, the styling was ALL Jeremy Gore. He's from this board as well and by looking at his own car, you can see where the styling ISSUES come from. Did you not watch the show and see how badly we didn't want to paint the car that color?

The two people who impressed me the most were Tony Vaz and my lead mechanic Anthony.

Their car was gorgeous because of James (who is also a good friend of mine). He chose the color, cut their bumper, chose the drag wing, and most of the good asthetics.

Our car was good for low 13s EASILY, even untuned. We had a 200 shot of nitrous. Our cars ran absolutely amazing the first time we went to the track (got rained out). The next time out (month later or so), both cars were running like bags and our nitrous mysteriously stopped working.

I had fun anyway and I'm sure Rob and Tony would agree.

Tim I am just messing with you but did you guys actually look at your interior

I MOST IMPRESSED YOU!?!.....dude I just helped out.

Tim you didn't work with ROB but if you did you would surely say the ROB GREER is the man. That guy knows his sh.t! He knew all the technical stuff.
I mostly worked on the body and most of all the under carriage stuff.
Rob mostly engine,ECU
Kory (which I wasn't impressed with) work on stereo, interior
Jim, worked on front bumper and intercooler

We never did find out what happened to our car after the final run. I personally think that some happened to the timing belt.

BTW the Cadillac's were on this morning.

Besides the chain link steering wheel, I liked the interior. OKAY, I would NEVER put it in my car, but I thought it was cool and original.

Our audio guy, Brick, said the funniest thing to us when we first got onto the show. "Hey guys, I don't know anything about cars. I just wanted to be on TV."

Jeremy wasn't the boss, he whined so much that the show had to let him do something. From what I hear, he was the first chosen to be on the show and was deemed the Talon expert by the auditioners and such. To be honest, Brick was more of a help and he knew nothing about anything on the car.

I hate to bad-mouth Jeremy but he has no taste in cars what-so-ever. He actually thought our paintjob would have looked good and told us all we were blind and the two colors will work great together. Uhhhh, sure.

An 8 second car with blue n green can look good

Haha the show producers should have asked for pics of Jeremys car. Its an acquired taste and to each his own...he likes it so thats great. I name my car after a hot chick and Jeremy names his car after a building so that may have been their first clue

I would like to watch the show but I don't have those channels , can someone make me a copy?.

OK I got a idea for those who missed the show.

I could bring my copy of the show to the next Mississauga meet and someone could set up a couple laptops (so that the show could be played on to screens at the same time)and watch the show there.
Also if someone who is able of burning DVDs that would a good time to do it.

Whats ya think?

ROB,TIM,JEREMERY,JIM it would be cool if you guys were there also.

don't think so tony.

haha I have to jump in here since your busting my balls here Tim.....The interior NOT my idea, to be honest I worked with what i had....The stereo installer??? I did all the wiring on that car...Bricks an awsome guy but basicly was anthonys bitch..the paint job it was insain looked like crap when done to ninja turtleish...would never do it again, the team was right.The colours were chosen by all of us "NOT JUST ME"...i shoulda just poured the blue and the green into one can and sprayed it like that....Both cars would have looked identical! the only difference in the 2 cars is the colour and Ours had nitrous, thats where the differences ended....i enjoyed the show...you wanna rag on me because my Show quality tasts were not upto the street racing scene thats fine with me. my 1G dsm runs low 12's,won more car shows then any other 1g in the country, been on 2 tv shows and in 2 magazines...so all in all im very proud of what I have done and wouldn't change a thing...
tim and rob and all the other guys to be honest yous should have won...yous guys all clicked and had a great team. I didn't get along with anthony because Iv been workin on these cars for 8 years and know how they work and how not to destroy them and he is gonna tell me how to work on them i don't think so. these arn't mustangs or integras where they can be beat on... im sorry but when your lead mechanics whole goal in the show is to blow up the car and make everyone look dumb and never finish one job he started then ya....Awsome leader lol... anyways I had fun working with all of yous and maybe I will paint one of our military tanks blue and green just as a dedication to all you haters..lmao.... we won Tim, time to get over it, its been a year ..

For someone who's been here so long and has over 1000 posts that is one ugly assed internet speak hard to read post Jeremy

I'm over it Jeremy. You picked the paint. Period. Don't be lying about that.

yes we all sat there and ate sandwiches and I made all of yous pic the colours I forgot im such an intimidating fellow...lmao.. I am the guy that would not switch them after they were mixed thou ..
remember my original sceme tim? red and black ring a bell? ohh ya i forgot thats the sceme you have for your car now..haha have a good one guys ...

You have incredible taste Jeremy. Everyone who watches the episode will see what I mean.

i said the colours sucked lol...judges hated it....it was bold,out there and it was a chance i took and some time you win sometimes you loose just so happens we lost the exterior portion but won the whole thing sh!t happens...i don't know what your trying to acomplish by trying to rub my name and my cars rep in the dirt. is it going to acomplish anything for you when the team won anyways?..umm nope..makes no sence...but you have fun with it.. hope you can get all the jolies you want out of it. probly makes you feel like the big man too...lmao

Jer, stop typing and go back to elementary school so you can learn how to put a sentence together. I can't stand to see your garbage any longer.

damn I missed the show
and I like to see it.

what missy meeting would this be at?!

Oh the drama

Can't someone just throw up a torrent of this show or host it somewhere so we can watch it already?

+1

N

Yeah I'm going to get it done and hosted for you guys when I get a chance.

Tim,

digitise that sh!t already , would you!

opps..double post

Guys here is a heads up.

According to the TV Tropolis (formerly Prime)schedule, looks like the Talon episode will be on tomorrow morning at 7:00am.

So get your asses out of bed and check it out !

Here is a list of all the episodes:
Season 2005/06
1995 Volkswagen Golf GTI
1995 Jeep YJ
1988 Mustang GT 5.0
1996 Chevy S10 pickup
1991 Eagle Talon Tsi
1980 Cadillac Coupe de Ville
1994 Dodge Neon
1969 VW Beetles
1990 Nissan 240SX
1991 Subaru Legacy Turbo
1969 Pontiac Firebird
1984 Mazda RX7


BTW after reading the post from Tim and Jeremy it felt like deja vu.

No offence to the club guy's on the show but I got up early to watch this, I wan't that hour of my life back so I could stay in bed.
Tony did they tape any footage of you guy's or was your team just too "non-TV frendly", just a bunch of drama queens on the other team and I am not just singling out Jeremy.
And fuzzy dashes on both cars, and I havn't even seen that on the rice circut cars.

One of those cars was mine, I guess drama queen team was workin on it, I didn't watch the show... The fuzzy dash shocked me when I first saw it, one of the producers was like pretty cool eh? I wanted to projectile vomit on him but that wouldn't have fully displayed my disgust...
=)

As far as some of the power mods, I think it's pretty much impossible and unfair for anyone to expect they could build a car in a week, with limited time to work on the car, and inability to tune the fuckin thing...

I think that we had as much tape time as the other team but like you said there was a bunch more drama on the other team then ours.
We pretty much plugged away with little fuss.
But I have to admit, listening to those fight especially Antony made me laugh and the time went by much faster.
Oh btw it was freaking hot!!!
As for the fuzzy sh.t, that was the brilliant idea of our interior guy Kory. I don't think that guy got I oil stain anywhere on his clothing!!!
I had actually went out to Fabricland and brought some suede pieces to spice up the interior a bit.
But as you seen that went by the way side.
Nigel,
it wasn't a week, it was 72 hours and we used pretty much every minute of it.
Till this day we still have no clue what happen the car on its final run, but I suspect timing belt.

Anyways I thought the show came out pretty good but I have a kinda of biased opinion.

and still no links?
I thought someone was going to rip it and then host it?

What did you expect when we got stuck in hotel rooms, diners, and the scortching hot garage for 4 days together with many differences in creativity and mechanical intuition.

SIGH!
I can't beleive you guys lost!

WTF was up with that paint job

Entertaining, yes. But the no tooning part was stupid. You should have run a 2g maf, then the car would have hauled ass with little tuning (IMHO)

Good job though guys. It must have been a bitch to do.

Tim, I'm not sure what you were expecting.

Here are a few points (not directed at you):
-Tony, Jim and I spent quite a few hours making a very detailed plan for the car. Most of the plan went out the window on the first day. The producers didn't order some of the parts we requested. Also, we got some of the same parts that our opponents ordered. They did it to save money (and maybe to cause some excitement). I was pissed. This really killed my enthusiasm for doing the show.
-the "Jet" tool chest was inadequate. I brought in my own tools. We used my tools more than the ones the show provided. The other team even borrowed my tools!
-Our team got along very well. Admittedly we were probably not good TV. I guess the producers figured that whining/fighting/name calling is more interesting than watching actual work getting done. They took plenty of footage of us, they just decided not to show it. There was one particular incident that I wish they had shown but chose not to for some reason.

PPG: We thought about asking you but I knew you would not leave your car with them or let them drive it. They drove the car to the location.

Our car was quicker/faster but sadly, broke on the money run. What can I say?

I didn't see a problem with doing the translator. Steve made up a special chip for me. Thanks again man! The translator adjustments were set to zero. We intended to only use it for fine tuning (which didn't really happen).

It was a bitch. It was freaking hot and the shows' parts ordering guys screwed up constantly. I had to hold their hand every step of the way. In the end, I'm glad I did it.

I finally got to watch this episode. Although I must admit that the track runs were a bit of a disappointment, I guess with only so much time to prepare and no tuning time, not much can be expected! I DID find it entertaining none the less.

I found Rob's team worked well and professionally, with class! The other team, well, they were entertaining, though I did come to dislike that Anthony character.

In the end, the other team could not even have made their "money run" and "win" without a part donated by Rob's team. I thought that showed class, in the true spirit of a DSMer. I think BOTH teams were winners.

About the parts issues, I feel a little guilty. I supplied a lot of the parts (mostly at or near cost), but the producers approached me with a "shopping list", and I just assumed this was each team's "wish list". I thought the fact that the two lists were so similar was just because those were all excellent mods to do....

In any case, I enjoyed it, and will treasure my copy of this show for a long time

I didn't mean any insult to the people on the show, building a car in 3 day's must have been a huge challenge, what I ment to say is unfortunately the producers in thier attempt to make the show "tv friendly" and have an entertainment aspect felt the need to leave all of the fabrication talent, as well as all of the other talent that was evident, and just mainly focused on the crap intenal team bickering.

Hmm what shows does that remind us of hmmm uhmm ...christ Paulie would you shut up while I think...get Mikie to help you finish bolting those parts together that I ordered oops I mean finish "fabricating" that corporate sponsored theme bike so we can engage in some redneck activity for fun.

Nope that wasnt it ...whats that Boyd? Get back to work on the hot rod cause we only have 12 days to make our bestest car ever. Damn Boyd that only leaves us 5 days after the bitching, moaning and all the other entirely unprofessional antics required to slap together a shiny looking vroom vroom for one of the dozen people without a tv set who obviously have never seen how we build cars.

OK here's something interesting:

http://cgi.ebay.ca/Eagle-Talon-Ecli...hZ001QQcategoryZ6214QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.ca/Eagle-Talon-Eagl...hZ001QQcategoryZ6214QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I missed something tho, t3/t4 turbo's with dsm manifolds?

I how can the green car drive the stock clutch? I destroyed 2 of those on a 14b.

They never listed suspension mods either.


/me shakes head at fun fir

Wonder what the shipping would cost me

That red car has almost all the body mods i've been wroking on for 9 months. Shaved wrap around spoiler, shaved emblems, no decals etc. I still would have gone black on top tho.

Wow, I can hardly believe how much it hurts to look at the green car. What happened to the interior??

The green and blue monster is my old AWD, and it has a 2100 in it, not the stock clutch... It also has alot of AWd launches on it too.

I just threw up a little bit in my mouth.

Ah ok, should have figured the guy posting on ebay has no real idea about the cars.

To be honest i'm actually kinda interested in them. I cant imagine being able to justify the shipping tho =\

This morning I finally saw this Episode on Global. I recorded it on VCR as well, and hope to get a TV Tuner card soon to Digitize this.

I must say that by far Rob's team impressed me the most, and if it were not for your generosity in donating the part from your car, the other team would not have won. In my mind you guys are the true winners.

My favorite line from the show has to be the comment on the blue/green Talon's interior by the judge. "This interior would make Cheech and Chong proud". I laughed my ass of at that.

First of all that throttle body coolant line was rigged by the TV show for flare but I fixed it in time with Tony's donation. I think I even called it a "Jeremy Hack-Job" when I saw what happened.

And sure they worked well together but what good is that for TV. My team won, we were more interesting and controversial, so... shut up.

I'd defenately like to see that.

I only saw a part of the "Neon" show. Pretty cheezy show of you ask me but I would defenately check the Talon show.

Ghislain.

Anyone have a copy of this that can be linked yet? I want to see, and don't get the channels this plays on.

I would like to see this as well

I have the CD if anyone can come grab it and host it/bit torrent it. Other then that, I can't do much.

I could put it up on my ftp for a few days (during the day while im at school)

^^^

That would be great!!!

Tim, i could put my ftp up so you could upload it?
Then once its done i could put it up for the rest of the guys...
Ofcourse it wouldnt be super fast or up all the time ( I will post when it would go down) as its off my home pc, but better then nothing i guess?
Any ways pm me if you want the ftp info tim.

I'll let you know what file type it is and we can work from there. I wouldn't know how to upload to an ftp.

Depending on file size, you can send it to me and I'll upload it for you. Catch me on MSN sometime and we can transfer it.

I also saw the episode but I would like to see it again so let us know if someone hosts the file.

Why not put it up as a torrent? Once a few of us get the complete file we can seed it till everyone gets it.

I forgot it was airing on the weekend or I would have capped it as well.

I like to look at it too.
If anyone has a copy or link , upload it please.

Mehrdad

I've been patiently waiting for this episode as well.

Very excited to see it.

Pete

I was even watching the ebay sales of the cars after. Count me on the "want to see it" bandwagon.

I made a quick, dirty, uncut VHS capture of it. The machine I normally use for my captures is in Montreal so i had to make do with what I had on had. Sorry about the flicker and it being in wmv format but its better than nothing.

I created a torrent so that the more people who have it the faster everyone else will get it. I will be seeding from 2 locations one I get it upped to my Montreal machine.

http://www.mininova.org/tor/526437

I almost forgot, merry xmas CA.DSM. this is my gift to everyone.

Cool thanks!
Will seed this when its done

helping seed now

Speed was pretty darn fast, got it in like 5 min.

I will try and make a cleaner cap of it in the new year.

The speeds might be a bit slower now I need to do some work on my montreal machine so not more seeding from a 10meg fiber connection till later tommorrow

Seed now as well..... And yeah the file finished fast

i'm getting 135kb/s from one seeder? cool! Thanks guys

Watched it tonight, pretty interesting. The leopard interior was kind of.. well... different... Blue and Green.... again... different.

I think Rob's car looked the nicest overall exterior. I really liked the decal on the front.

The fact that it ran a 15 sucked, but hey, it was untuned right?

Good to finally see it thought!

I am trying to download it as we speak, hoping it'll speed up a bit ... only downloading at 4kb/second


as for this quote:
Mysteriously stopped working eh.?
Its been known that War of the Wheels is not the fairest reality show out there right now.

My buddy Farmer was on the 240sx episode (huge guy with short blond hair)...

They have had a couple ... issues with the rules being one way, and being treated as others, and the fact that the producers were paid off to allow one team to... have the upper hand...

either way, entertainment is all it is eh?

Matt

Can someone please seed this. I still haven't got it.

I'm having a hard time downloading too, only 2 sources, and not getting any download done

i thought the one dude was gonna fight jeremy, in fact that was the only time i had interest in the damn episode.

I will see tomorrow from 4PM until 11 so some more can get it.

seed plz!!!

Brad

Seeding now

im trying to but it wont connect. im sure i could just msn it to someone else if you really wanted it

yup ill try to keep this seeding for a week at least so peeps can grab it. Congrads to both teams. Me personaly the white team should have won but whatever "It doesn't matter if ya win by a inch, or taking a part of the other guys car". Where was anthoney from? he a member of the forum. Man I gotta come up to a meet with ya guys ya guys look down to earth/chill.
anyhoo congrads

Brad

Anthony is not from the board. He's a cold-hearted mustang guy but he was hilarious.

I finally got to see it.

Wasn't too bad, but I don't get how they expected you to drive an untested and untuned car down the track. Thats suicide in my opinion.

I think they should have given each team two private hours at the track to get everything set up properly.

me too, haven't had time to watch the episode though

So what happen to the cars? That was not to bad. It would have been nice if one of them would have work better. But thats a DSM for you:)

Got it Thanks. Seeding now too. (But no one's taking)

FAK.

Beneton's flavor car won by chance. I wish that Geremy of Tim would of give that Antony caracter a wrap behind the head.

Anyway, I found it fun to watch and defenately some good "team player" from Rob's team.

Ghislain.

what search server should I use to look for these seeds?

torrentspy doesn't have it?

Nothing like bringing up a very old post.

Was going through some old DVDs and came across the DVD that had the eposide where some of the Club DSM Canada members including yours truly, were in.

After reading this old post i see alot of people weren't able to see it.

I don't know how to "seed", so I posted it on Youtube for anyone who wants to see it can. (not sure how long its going to last on there)

Man how time flies!

For Mobile phone viewing,
War of the Wheels Talon eposide
or click the link below.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGprOdVn8L0

For PC viewing
War of the Wheels Talon eposide
or click the link below
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IjB7l6QS6A

Appreatenly there is a difference between the two
The eposide is about 400MB.

Enjoy

cant wait to go home and watch this

I going to eat breakfeast and watch this =)

Its funny how so many cooks can ruin a kitchen, I am sure that all of these guys in their own rights are great at what they do. I know I am not at their levels but I know I can take orders and just do the job. It would be hard when 4 minds come together with out prior knowledge of one anothers abilities. time for the last 3rd of the show... lets see how it came together

"He's not a team player..!" lol

Pretty cool vid, too bad they didn't go into detail on fabricating/mechanics though, but still nice to see some DSM on TV

2 tone blue and green...

I was a hair away from being on this show and I backed out last minute. Never did see the episode. Gonna watch now

Great episode! That MK2 gti is such a nice car, "skylon" is definitely riced out! I'm really glad to have seen this episode!

Team Torque's car is fracking gorgeous

I seen skylon in person a few times. It definitely.....ugh unique.

In all honesty, I feel its ugly as frack, but Jer put a lot of work into it, mostly himself, and I respect that immensely. Craftsmanship and building as a hobby with your hard earned money, is something most wont understand.

Pretty lame how there was no test and tune. Seriously, bad fracking producing. Who wants to watch two cars break down on the track. Morons. Whoever thought it was a good idea to let two teams put new motors in the car with 12k worth of new parts and not let them tune the cars at least..........well i dunno, they are just dumb.


Im not TV producer, but I promise, I could have made a more exciting show with a few simple suggestions.

Kinda regretting my decision to back out. Meh, thats life.

Reza, Kevin and Brendan Warwick shoulda been on 1 team. Put 5gs in to it, running 10s hahaha

I agree that he put time and effort into it, and I can respect that, but ugly as sin