It's fun, when I destroy TSis (AWD or not) in my "non-turbo" Talon boosting less then 10 pounds.

Some people are gluttons for punishment? I guess everyone with a turbo Neon and SRT-4 is wasting their time :rolleyes:

I remember everyone telling me to get a 4G63 before I did this -- screw that. Those people suck at math. Take the price of a non turbo, add a custom turbo kit (less then a grand if you do it just so) that makes you faster then a stock 4G63 anyway, and then add all the money you are saving on insurance every month, and it pays for itself very quickly.